Poudretteite
A valid IMA mineral species
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About Poudretteite
Formula:
K◻2Na2B3[Si12O30]
Colour:
Colourless, very pale pink
Lustre:
Vitreous
Hardness:
5
Specific Gravity:
2.51
Crystal System:
Hexagonal
Member of:
Name:
The mineral was named in honor of the Poudrette family, owners and operators of the original R. Poudrette quarry, established in 1959, and from 1992 to 2007, the enlarged Poudrette quarry, which incorporates the former Demix and all other previously operated quarries into a single entity. The Poudrette quarry is one the world's great mineralogical treasures, and the type locality for more than 60 mineral species. The Poudrette family has contributed greatly to the mineralogical studies of Mont Saint-Hilaire by generously allowing access to their quarry.
Unique Identifiers
Mindat ID:
3272
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:3272:4
GUID
(UUID V4):
(UUID V4):
38d2f80a-4ede-40fb-886f-d67c3f6c318d
IMA Classification of Poudretteite
Approved
IMA Formula:
KNa2(B3Si12)O30
First published:
1987
Classification of Poudretteite
9.CM.05
9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
C : Cyclosilicates
M : [Si6O18]12- 6-membered double rings (sechser-Doppelringe)
9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
C : Cyclosilicates
M : [Si6O18]12- 6-membered double rings (sechser-Doppelringe)
63.2.1a.8
63 : CYCLOSILICATES Condensed Rings
2 : Condensed Rings (Milarite - Osumilite group)
63 : CYCLOSILICATES Condensed Rings
2 : Condensed Rings (Milarite - Osumilite group)
17.5.8
17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
5 : Borosilicates
17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
5 : Borosilicates
Mineral Symbols
As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.
Please only use the official IMA–CNMNC symbol. Older variants are listed for historical use only.
Please only use the official IMA–CNMNC symbol. Older variants are listed for historical use only.
Symbol | Source | Reference |
---|---|---|
Pou | IMA–CNMNC | Warr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43 |
Pou | The Canadian Mineralogist (2019) | The Canadian Mineralogist (2019) The Canadian Mineralogist list of symbols for rock- and ore-forming minerals (December 30, 2019). download |
Physical Properties of Poudretteite
Vitreous
Transparency:
Transparent
Colour:
Colourless, very pale pink
Streak:
White
Hardness:
5 on Mohs scale
Tenacity:
Brittle
Cleavage:
None Observed
Fracture:
Splintery
Density:
2.51(1) g/cm3 (Measured) 2.53 g/cm3 (Calculated)
Optical Data of Poudretteite
Type:
Uniaxial (+)
RI values:
nω = 1.516(1) nε = 1.532(1)
Max Birefringence:
δ = 0.016
Image shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness)
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:
Low
Chemistry of Poudretteite
Mindat Formula:
K◻2Na2B3[Si12O30]
Crystallography of Poudretteite
Crystal System:
Hexagonal
Class (H-M):
6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) - Dihexagonal Dipyramidal
Space Group:
P6/mcc
Setting:
P6/mcc
Cell Parameters:
a = 10.239(1) Å, c = 13.485(3) Å
Ratio:
a:c = 1 : 1.317
Unit Cell V:
1,224.32 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
2
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ID | Species | Reference | Link | Year | Locality | Pressure (GPa) | Temp (K) |
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0005217 | Poudretteite | Grice J D, Ercit T S, Van Velthuizen J, Dunn P J (1987) Poudretteite, KNa2B3Si12O30, a new member of the osumilite group from Mont Saint-Hilaire, Quebec, and its crystal structure The Canadian Mineralogist 25 763-766 | 1987 | Mont Saint-Hilaire, Quebec, Canada | 0 | 293 |
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X-Ray Powder Diffraction
Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacing | Intensity |
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5.13 Å | (100) |
3.253 Å | (100) |
2.815 Å | (60) |
2.686 Å | (50) |
2.956 Å | (40) |
1.818 Å | (40) |
6.74 Å | (30) |
Geological Environment
Paragenetic Mode(s):
Paragenetic Mode | Earliest Age (Ga) |
---|---|
Stage 4b: Highly evolved igneous rocks | >3.0 |
35 : Ultra-alkali and agpaitic igneous rocks |
Type Occurrence of Poudretteite
General Appearance of Type Material:
Clear, colorless to very pale pink, equidimensional, subhedral prisms up to 5 mm.
Place of Conservation of Type Material:
Canadian Museum of Nature, Ottawa, Canada, 51743 and 51791.
National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 163776.
National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 163776.
Geological Setting of Type Material:
In a marble xenolith included in nepheline syenite.
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:
Reference:
Grice, J.D., Ercit, T.S., Van Velthuizen, J., Dunn, P.J. (1987) Poudretteite KNa2B3Si12O30, a new member of the osumilite group from Mont Saint Hilaire, Quebec. The Canadian Mineralogist, 25, 763 766.
Synonyms of Poudretteite
Other Language Names for Poudretteite
Relationship of Poudretteite to other Species
Member of:
Other Members of this group:
Agakhanovite-(Y) | K◻2(YCa)Be3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Almarudite | K◻2Mn2+2(Be2Al)[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mmm |
Aluminosugilite | KNa2Al2Li3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Armenite | Ba(H2O)2Ca2Al3[Al3Si9O30] | Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnna |
Berezanskite | K◻2Ti2Li3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Brannockite | K◻2Sn2Li3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Chayesite | K◻2Mg2(Mg2Fe3+)[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Darapiosite | KNa2Mn2(Zn2Li)[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Dusmatovite | K(K◻)Mn2+2Zn3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Eifelite | KNa2(MgNa)Mg3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Friedrichbeckeite | K(◻Na)Mg2(Be2Mg)[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Klöchite | K◻2(Fe2+Fe3+)Zn3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc |
Laurentthomasite | K◻2Mg2(Be2Al)[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Merrihueite | K(◻Na)Fe2+2Fe2+3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Milarite | K(◻H2O)Ca2(Be2Al)[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Oftedalite | K◻2(ScCa)Be3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Osumilite | K◻2Fe2+2Al3[Al2Si10O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Osumilite-(Mg) | K◻2Mg2Al3[Al2Si10O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Roedderite | K(◻Na)Mg2Mg3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6 m2 : P62c |
Shibkovite | K(◻K)Ca2Zn3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Sogdianite | K◻2Zr2Li3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Sugilite | KNa2Fe3+2Li3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Trattnerite | ◻(◻)2Fe3+2Mg3[Si12O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
UM1990-73-SiO:KMnNaZn | K(KNa0.5◻0.5)(Mn1.5Na0.5)Zn3[Si12O30] | Hex. |
Unnamed (Mn3+-dominant analog of Sugilite) | KNa2Mn3+2Li3[Si12O30] | |
Yagiite | Na◻2Mg2Al3[Al2Si10O30] | Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc |
Common Associates
Associated Minerals Based on Photo Data:
1 photo of Poudretteite associated with Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
1 photo of Poudretteite associated with Johachidolite | CaAlB3O7 |
Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat Grouping
9.CM. | Agakhanovite-(Y) | K◻2(YCa)Be3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Armenite | Ba(H2O)2Ca2Al3[Al3Si9O30] |
9.CM.05 | Brannockite | K◻2Sn2Li3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Chayesite | K◻2Mg2(Mg2Fe3+)[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Darapiosite | KNa2Mn2(Zn2Li)[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Eifelite | KNa2(MgNa)Mg3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Merrihueite | K(◻Na)Fe2+2Fe2+3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Milarite | K(◻H2O)Ca2(Be2Al)[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Osumilite-(Mg) | K◻2Mg2Al3[Al2Si10O30] |
9.CM.05 | Osumilite | K◻2Fe2+2Al3[Al2Si10O30] |
9.CM.05 | Roedderite | K(◻Na)Mg2Mg3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Sogdianite | K◻2Zr2Li3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Sugilite | KNa2Fe3+2Li3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Yagiite | Na◻2Mg2Al3[Al2Si10O30] |
9.CM.05 | Berezanskite | K◻2Ti2Li3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Dusmatovite | K(K◻)Mn2+2Zn3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Shibkovite | K(◻K)Ca2Zn3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Almarudite | K◻2Mn2+2(Be2Al)[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Trattnerite | ◻(◻)2Fe3+2Mg3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Oftedalite | K◻2(ScCa)Be3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Klöchite | K◻2(Fe2+Fe3+)Zn3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Friedrichbeckeite | K(◻Na)Mg2(Be2Mg)[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | UM1990-73-SiO:KMnNaZn | K(KNa0.5◻0.5)(Mn1.5Na0.5)Zn3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.05 | Laurentthomasite | K◻2Mg2(Be2Al)[Si12O30] |
9.CM.9.CM. | Aluminosugilite | KNa2Al2Li3[Si12O30] |
9.CM.10 | Faizievite | K2Na(Ca6Na)Ti4Li6[Si6O18]2[Si12O30]F2 |
Other Information
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.
Internet Links for Poudretteite
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Localities for Poudretteite
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(TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species.
(FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties).
Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality.
Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Canada (TL) | |
| Grice et al. (1987) +1 other reference |
Myanmar | |
| Gems & Gemology +1 other reference |
| Themelis (2008) |
| Themelis (2008) +1 other reference |
| California Institute of Technology ... |
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