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<strong>JOURNALS</strong><br />

<strong>OF</strong> THE<br />

<strong>HOUSE</strong> <strong>OF</strong> <strong>LORDS</strong><br />

SESSION 2004-05<br />

VOLUME 238<br />

LAID ON THE TABLE BY THE CLERK <strong>OF</strong> THE PARLIAMENTS<br />

PRINTED BY ORDER <strong>OF</strong> THE <strong>HOUSE</strong> <strong>OF</strong> <strong>LORDS</strong><br />

BY THE CONTROLLER <strong>OF</strong> HER MAJESTY’S STATIONERY <strong>OF</strong>FICE


? <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Copyright House of Lords 2006<br />

Applications for reproduction should be made in writing to the Copyright Unit,<br />

Her Majesty’s Stationery OYce, St Clements House, 2–16 Colegate, Norwich NR3 1BQ<br />

– Fax 01603 723000


2004 23rd November<br />

1<br />

Tuesday 23rd November 2004<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> met at half-past eleven o’clock, pursuant to<br />

the prorogation of Thursday 18th November.<br />

THE QUEEN<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.


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Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackay of Drumadoon, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

1. Queen’s Speech—The Queen being seated on the Throne, and the Commons being at the Bar with<br />

their Speaker, Her Majesty was pleased to make a Most Gracious Speech to both Houses of<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>, and then retired.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed at half-past three o’clock.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

2. Members of the House—It was ordered that a list of members of the House, prepared by the Clerk<br />

of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s, be printed. (HL Paper 1)<br />

3. Select Vestries Bill—The Bill was presented by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) and read a first<br />

time pro forma.<br />

4. Queen’s Speech—The Queen’s Speech was reported by the Lord Chancellor; then it was moved by<br />

the Baroness Lockwood that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty as follows—<br />

Most Gracious Sovereign,<br />

We, Your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> assembled, beg leave to thank Your Majesty for the most gracious Speech<br />

which Your Majesty has addressed to both Houses of <strong>Parliament</strong>.<br />

After the motion had been seconded by the Baroness Billingham, the debate thereupon was<br />

adjourned till tomorrow.


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5. Chairman of Committees—The Lord Brabazon of Tara was appointed nemine dissentiente to take<br />

the Chair in all Committees for this Session.<br />

6. Principal Deputy Chairman of Committees—The Lord Grenfell was appointed Principal Deputy<br />

Chairman of Committees for this Session nemine dissentiente.<br />

7. Stoppages in the Streets—It was ordered that the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis do take<br />

care that the passages through the streets leading to this House be kept free and open and that<br />

no obstruction be permitted to hinder the passage of Lords to and from this House during the<br />

sitting of <strong>Parliament</strong> or to hinder Lords in the pursuit of their <strong>Parliament</strong>ary duties on the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary estate; and that the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod attending this House<br />

do communicate this Order to the Commissioner.<br />

8. Hereditary peers: by-elections—The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s laid on the Table pursuant to<br />

Standing Order 10(5) a register of hereditary peers (other than peers of Ireland) who wish to<br />

stand in any by-election for membership of the House held in accordance with section 2(4) of<br />

the House of Lords Act 1999; it was ordered that the register be printed. (HL Paper 2)<br />

Judicial Business<br />

9. Appeal Committees—Two Appeal Committees were appointed pursuant to Standing Order.<br />

10. Appellate Committees—Two Appellate Committees were appointed pursuant to Standing Order.<br />

Papers<br />

11. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Commercial Debts—Exchange of Notes between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and the<br />

Democratic Republic of Congo concerning Certain Commercial Debts; (22nd<br />

November) (6400)<br />

2. Environment—Rotterdam Convention on the Prior Informed Consent Procedure for<br />

Certain Hazardous Chemicals and Pesticides in International Trade; (23rd November)<br />

(6390)<br />

3. Foreign AVairs—Government Response to the Eighth Report of the House of Commons<br />

Foreign AVairs Committee on the Annual Report of the Foreign and Commonwealth<br />

OYce; (23rd November) (6415)<br />

4. Foreign AVairs—Departmental Minute from the Foreign and Commonwealth OYce<br />

regarding the gifting of VIP-related equipment to Pakistan. (23rd November) (—)<br />

12. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on<br />

the Table:<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Minimum Funding Requirement and Actuarial Valuations)<br />

Amendment Regulations 2004, laid under the Pensions Act 1995. (3031)<br />

13. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Amendment List 14 to Air Publication 1269—The Royal Air Force Manual of Medical<br />

Management and Administration, laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes before five o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 24th November 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.


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2004<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cullen of Whitekirk, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

HoVmann, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.


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Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newcastle, Bp.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oliver of Aylmerton, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Winchester, Bp.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. McFarlane (Appellant) v. McFarlane (Respondent) (England)— The appeal of Julia Helena<br />

Chocholowska McFarlane was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing<br />

Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 5th January (lodged 22nd<br />

November).


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2. Matthews and others (Appellants) v. Kent and Medway Towns Fire Authority and others<br />

(Respondents) (England)— The appeal of Barry George GriYn, Glenville Stephen Varrall,<br />

Leslie Chappell, Christopher Foster, Darren Lee Rosewell, Gary Richard Willis, Martin Lee<br />

Kerby, Peter Normal Welsh, Ralph Webb, Gary Foster, Gene Aron Mason and Colin<br />

Frederick Elliott was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI<br />

the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 5th January (lodged 23rd<br />

November).<br />

3. Smith (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and another (Respondents)— The<br />

petition of Helen Smith praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee,<br />

such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the<br />

said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 18th November).<br />

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Appellant) ex parte Hooper and others (FC)<br />

(Respondents)—<br />

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Hooper (Appellant) and<br />

others—<br />

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Hooper and others (FC)<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 22nd<br />

November).<br />

7. Harper (Appellant) v. Virgin Net Limited (Respondents)— The appeal was set down for hearing<br />

and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 19th November).<br />

8. Haward and others (Respondents) v. Fawcetts (a firm) (Appellants) and others—The petition of<br />

the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down<br />

the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th December (the agents for the respondents<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 22nd November).<br />

9. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Bagdanavicius (FC)<br />

and another (Appellants)— The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 3rd<br />

January 2005 or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents<br />

for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged<br />

22nd November).<br />

10. Szoma (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions<br />

(Respondent)— The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 5th January 2005<br />

or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the<br />

respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

11. In re D (a child appearing by her guardian ad litem) (Respondent) (FC)— The petition of the<br />

appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 6th January 2005 or to the third sitting day after the<br />

next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was<br />

presented; and it was ordered as prayed. The appellant’s certificate of public funding was<br />

lodged.<br />

12. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)— The petition of the appellant<br />

praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for<br />

hearing might be extended to 4th January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 22nd November).<br />

13. In re Sinn Fein (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)— The petition of the appellants praying that the<br />

time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be<br />

extended to 3rd January 2005 or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the<br />

House (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered<br />

as prayed (lodged 22nd November).<br />

14. Gardner (Appellant) v. Parker (Respondent)— The petition of the appellant was presented praying<br />

that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms agreed between the parties (the agents for the<br />

respondent consenting thereto); and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

15. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 111th Report, Session<br />

2003–04—<br />

R (on the application of Jones and others) (Respondents) v. Ceredigion County Council<br />

(Petitioners)— That leave to appeal be given on issue 2 only and on terms that the petitioners<br />

do pay the respondents’ costs before this House in any event; and that the petition of appeal<br />

be lodged by 8th December.<br />

In re Wellington (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)— That leave to appeal<br />

be refused.


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16. Appeal Committee—The First Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the<br />

following Orders were made—<br />

National Car Parks Limited (Petitioners) v. Baird and another (Valuation OYcers)<br />

(Respondents)— That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply<br />

for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

R (on the application of Tromans and another) (Respondents) v. Cannock Chase District<br />

Council (Petitioners)— That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 8th December.<br />

College of Estate Management (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs<br />

and Excise (Petitioners)— That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be<br />

lodged by 8th December.<br />

17. Appeal Committee—The 2nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

WISE (Underwriting Agency) Limited (Petitioners) and others v. Grupo Nacional Provincial<br />

SA (Respondents)— That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to<br />

apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that<br />

the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.<br />

Unipart Group Limited (Petitioners) v. O2 (UK) Limited (formerly BT Cellnet Limited) and<br />

others (Respondents)— That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to<br />

apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that<br />

the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.<br />

West Bromwich Building Society (Petitioners) v. Wilkinson and another (Respondents)—<br />

That leave to appeal be given on terms that the petitioners do pay the costs of the appeal and<br />

do not seek to disturb the orders for costs below; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by<br />

8th December next.<br />

Papers<br />

18. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Criminal Defence Service Bill, Draft—Government Response to the Report of the House<br />

of Commons Select Committee on Constitutional AVairs on the Draft Criminal Defence<br />

Service Bill; (6410)<br />

2. Contingent Liabilities—Notification from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport<br />

on contingent liabilities with regard to the National Museums Liverpool; (—)<br />

3. Works of Art—Report of the Spoliation Advisory Panel in respect of a painting now in<br />

the possession of Glasgow City Council; (—)<br />

4. Housing—Departmental Minute from the Ministry of Defence concerning the gifting of<br />

a non-core MOD site in Aldershot to the English Churches Housing Group. (—)<br />

19. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft International Criminal Court (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2004, laid under<br />

the International Criminal Court Act 2001, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. (i) Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (European Police OYce)<br />

Order 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the European Police<br />

OYce) (Amendment) Order 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

3. Draft European Police College (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

International Organisations Act 1968, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Information and Consultation of Employees Regulations 2004, laid under the<br />

Employment Relations Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

5. Draft Agriculture (Northern Ireland) Order 2004, laid under the Northern Ireland Act<br />

2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

20. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Medicines (Products for Animal Use—Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under<br />

the Medicines Act 1971; (3081)


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2. (i) International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (Freezing of Funds and<br />

Economic Resources and Indictees) (Amendment) Regulations 2004— (3099)<br />

(ii) Burma (Prohibition on Financing) Regulations 2004— (3100)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972.<br />

21. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. National Policing Plan 2005–08—Safer, Stronger Communities, laid under the Police<br />

Reform Act 2002;<br />

2. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Arts Council of England, laid under the National<br />

Lottery etc. Act 1993.<br />

22. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House<br />

that he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,<br />

notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid before<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 2004.<br />

Public Business<br />

23. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision for modifying the oYce of Lord<br />

Chancellor, and to make provision relating to the functions of that oYce; to establish a<br />

Supreme Court of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>, and to abolish the appellate jurisdiction of the House<br />

of Lords; to make provision about the jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee of the Privy<br />

Council and the judicial functions of the President of the Council; to make other provision<br />

about the judiciary, their appointment and discipline; and for connected purposes was<br />

presented by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 1)<br />

24. International Organisations Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision about privileges, immunities and<br />

facilities in connection with certain international organisations was presented by the Baroness<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 2)<br />

25. International Organisations Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the<br />

bill be printed. (HL Bill 2-EN)<br />

26. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—A bill to establish and make provision about the<br />

oYce of Public Services Ombudsman for Wales; to make provision about the functions of the<br />

Public Services Ombudsman for Wales; to make provision about compensation; to abolish the<br />

Commission for Local Administration in Wales and the oYces of Welsh Administration<br />

Ombudsman, Health Service Commissioner for Wales and Social Housing Ombudsman for<br />

Wales; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Evans of Temple Guiting, read<br />

a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 3)<br />

27. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating<br />

to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 3-EN)<br />

28. Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill [hl]—A bill to enable a competent adult who is suVering<br />

unbearably as a result of a terminal illness to receive medical assistance to die at his own<br />

considered and persistent request; and to make provision for a person suVering from a<br />

terminal illness to receive pain relief medication was presented by the Lord JoVe, read a first<br />

time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 4)<br />

29. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner (Amendment) Bill [hl]—A bill to amend the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

Commissioner Act 1967 so as to enable the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner for Administration<br />

to investigate complaints received directly from members of the public was presented by the<br />

Lord Lester of Herne Hill, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 5)<br />

30. Committee of Selection—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order 64 a Committee of Selection be appointed to select and propose to the House<br />

the names of the Lords to form each select committee of the House (except the Committee of<br />

Selection itself and any committee otherwise provided for by statute or by order of the House)<br />

or any other body not being a select committee referred to it by the Chairman of Committees,<br />

and the panel of Deputy Chairmen of Committees; and that the following Lords together with<br />

the Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee—<br />

B. Amos (Lord President) B. Massey of Darwen<br />

L. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville L. Roper<br />

L. Cope of Berkeley L. Strathclyde<br />

L. Grocott V. Tenby<br />

L. McNally L. Williamson of Horton;<br />

the motion was agreed to.


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31. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos), pursuant to the<br />

resolution of the House of 22nd March 2004, that, in the event of a Constitutional Reform<br />

Bill having being read a first time in the same form as that reported from the Committee of<br />

the Whole House in the last session of <strong>Parliament</strong>, Standing Order 47 (No two stages of a Bill<br />

to be taken on one day) be dispensed with to enable the bill to be taken pro forma through all<br />

the stages which the bill completed in the last session of <strong>Parliament</strong>; the motion was agreed to.<br />

32. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The Queen’s consent was signified; then it was moved by the<br />

Lord Falconer of Thoroton that the bill be now read a second time and that the bill be<br />

committed to and reported from a Select Committee and a Committee of the Whole House<br />

pro forma; the motion was agreed to.<br />

33. Queen’s Speech—The debate on the motion that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty<br />

was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned till tomorrow.<br />

The House was adjourned at nine minutes past eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

Thursday 25th November 2004<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Durham, Bp.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.


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Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northfield, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.


2004 25th November<br />

11<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Jindal Iron and Steel Co Limited and others (Appellants) and others v. Islamic Solidarity Shipping<br />

Company Jordan Inc (Respondents)— It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That<br />

the 1st Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was<br />

ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 13th February 2003 be aYrmed<br />

and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2004] UKHL 49<br />

2. Regina v. Montila and others (Appellants) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division))— The 2nd Report from the Appellate Committee was made and ordered to be<br />

printed (HL Paper 3). It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the Report be<br />

agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed;<br />

that the Order of the Court of Appeal Criminal Division of 8th September 2003 be set aside<br />

and the ruling of His Honour Judge Van Der Bijl in the Crown Court at Maidstone of 19th<br />

December 2002 restored; that the question certified by the Court of Appeal on 3rd November<br />

2003 be answered in the aYrmative; and that, in accordance with the Representation Order<br />

granted by the Court of Appeal Criminal Division on 3rd November 2003, the costs of the<br />

appellants in this House be paid by the Legal Services Commission in accordance with the<br />

Access to Justice Act 1999 and the Criminal Defence Service (General) Regulations 2001, the<br />

amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s. [2004] UKHL 50<br />

3. Barclays Mercantile Business Finance Limited (Respondents) v. Mawson (Her Majesty’s Inspector<br />

of Taxes) (Appellant)— The 3rd Report from the Appellate Committee was made and ordered<br />

to be printed (HL Paper 4). It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the Report<br />

be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the<br />

Court of Appeal of 13th December 2002 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the<br />

amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties. [2004] UKHL 51<br />

4. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Appellants) v. Scottish Provident Institution<br />

(Respondents) (Scotland)— The 4th Report from the Appellate Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed (HL Paper 5). It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That<br />

the Report be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

Interlocutors of the Inner House of the Court of Session as the Court of Exchequer in Scotland<br />

of 3rd July 2003 and 26th September 2003 be recalled; that the cause be remitted back to the<br />

Special Commissioners to proceed in accordance with the Report of the Appellate Committee;<br />

and that the respondents do pay to the appellants their expenses in the Court of Session and<br />

their costs in this House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2004] UKHL 52<br />

5. Beynon and Partners (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise<br />

(Appellants)— It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 5th Report from<br />

the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged<br />

that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 20th December 2002 be set aside save for its order<br />

for costs in the Court of Appeal and below; that the Order of Mr Justice Lawrence Collins in<br />

the High Court (Chancery Division) of 27th March 2002 (as amended by the Order of 23rd<br />

July 2002) and the decision of Manchester VAT Tribunal of 5th June 2001 be restored save<br />

as to costs; and that there be no order for costs in this House. [2004] UKHL 53<br />

6. R (on the application of PD) (Petitioner) v. West Midlands & North West Mental Health Review<br />

Tribunal (Respondents)— The petition of PD praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding<br />

that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the<br />

fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII;<br />

the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.


12 25th November<br />

2004<br />

Papers<br />

7. Paper withdrawn—The following paper, laid before the House on 16th November, was withdrawn:<br />

Report for 2003 of the Registrar General Northern Ireland.<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Petroleum—Exchange of Notes between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and Norway concerning<br />

the Playfair and Boa Petroleum Fields; (6412)<br />

2. Health—Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology<br />

Authority, together with a Supplementary Statement by the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General. (—)<br />

9. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Financial Provisions (Northern Ireland) Order 2004, laid under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. European Communities (Designation) (No. 6) Order 2004, laid under the European<br />

Communities Act 1972; (3037)<br />

2. Education (School Organisation Proposals) (Miscellaneous Amendments) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (3052)<br />

3. Local Authorities (Capital Finance and Accounting) (Amendment) (England) (No. 2)<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Local Government Act 2003; (3055)<br />

4. Non-Domestic Rating (Alteration of Lists and Appeals) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988; (3057)<br />

5. Contaminants in Food (England) Regulations 2004, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990.<br />

(3062)<br />

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Criminal Cases Review Commission, laid under<br />

the Criminal Appeal Act 1995;<br />

2. Code of Practice on the Discharge of Public Authorities’ Functions Under the Freedom<br />

of Information Act 2000, laid under that Act.<br />

3. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Arts Council of Northern Ireland National<br />

Lottery Fund, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

12. Committee of Selection—The First Report from the Committee was made and ordered to be<br />

printed. (HL Paper 6)<br />

Public Business<br />

13. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]— A bill to amend the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; and<br />

for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Grocott on behalf of the Baroness Hollis<br />

of Heigham, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 6)<br />

14. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]— It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill<br />

be printed. (HL Bill 6-EN)<br />

15. Inquiries Bill [hl]— A bill to make provision about the holding of inquiries was presented by the<br />

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting on behalf of the Lord Falconer of Thoroton, read a first time<br />

and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 7)<br />

16. Inquiries Bill [hl]— It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 7-EN)<br />

17. Borough Freedom (Family Succession) Bill [hl]— A bill to make new provision relating to<br />

admission to borough freedom was presented by the Lord Graham of Edmonton, read a first<br />

time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 8)<br />

18. Renewable Energy Bill [hl]— A bill to make provision about the microgeneration of electricity; to<br />

provide for small renewable energy developments to be classed as permitted development; and<br />

to provide for a renewables obligation for public suppliers of energy other than electricity<br />

suppliers was presented by the Lord Redesdale, read a first time and ordered to be printed.<br />

(HL Bill 9)


2004 25th-29th November<br />

13<br />

19. Queen’s Speech—The debate on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty<br />

was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned to Monday next.<br />

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes before five o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 29th November 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.


14 29th November<br />

2004<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Orme, L.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.


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Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Manchester.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents) (England)— The appeal of Harry<br />

Maurice Roberts was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order<br />

VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 10th January 2005.<br />

2. Serco Limited (Respondents) v. Lawson (Appellant)— The petition of the Foreign and<br />

Commonwealth OYce praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. AE (FC) and another (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—<br />

The petition of the OYce of the <strong>United</strong> Nations High Commissioner for Refugees praying for<br />

leave to intervene in the said appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Gillies (AP) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) (Scotland)—<br />

The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

5. Percy (AP) (Appellant) v. Church of Scotland Board of National Mission (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland)— The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 3rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Gardner (Applicant) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise<br />

(Respondents)— That permission to appeal be refused because the application is inadmissible.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The 4th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R (on the application of Paul Rackham Limited) (Petitioners) v. SwaVham Magistrates’ Court<br />

(Respondents)— That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible.<br />

OYce of the King’s Prosecutor, Brussels (Respondents) v. Armas (Petitioner) and others—<br />

That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 13th December.<br />

R v. Misra and another (Petitioners)— That leave to appeal be refused.<br />

Papers<br />

8. Statutory Instrument (Standing Order 71)— The following negative instrument, having been laid<br />

before the House on 26th November, was ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Immigration (Leave to Remain) (Fees) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2004, laid under the<br />

Immigration and Asylum Act 1999. (3105)<br />

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Accounts for 2003–04 of the National Museums and Galleries on Merseyside,<br />

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—<br />

(ii) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Wallace Collection, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General—<br />

laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the National Army Museum, laid under the Charities Act 1993,<br />

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

3. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Insolvency Services Account and the Insolvency Services<br />

Investment Account, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

4. Report for 2004 on proposals for bringing fully into force those provisions of the<br />

Freedom of Information Act 2000 which are not yet fully in force, laid under the Freedom<br />

of Information Act 2000;<br />

5. Memorandum of Agreement between the Coal Authority and the Health and Safety<br />

Executive, laid under the Coal Industry Act 1994.<br />

Private Business<br />

10. Petitions for private bills—The following petitions for private bills were deposited on or before<br />

29th November 2004 pursuant to Standing Order:


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Name of Petition<br />

HBOS Group Reorganisation<br />

Liverpool City Council (Prohibition<br />

of Smoking in Places of Work)<br />

London Local Authorities<br />

London Local Authorities and<br />

Transport for London<br />

London Local Authorities<br />

(Prohibition of Smoking in Places<br />

of Work)<br />

Whitstable Oyster Fishery Company<br />

By whom deposited<br />

Bircham Dyson Bell<br />

Sharpe Pritchard<br />

Sharpe Pritchard<br />

Sharpe Pritchard<br />

Sharpe Pritchard<br />

Bircham Dyson Bell<br />

Public Business<br />

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that Standing Order<br />

41 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensed with on Wednesday 1st December next to<br />

allow the motion standing in the name of the Baroness Gardner of Parkes to be taken before<br />

the motion standing in the name of the Lord Hanningfield; the motion was agreed to.<br />

12. Economic AVairs—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to consider economic aVairs;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Elder L. Marsh<br />

L. Goodhart L. Sheldon<br />

L. Kingsdown L. Sheppard of Didgemere<br />

L. Lamont of Lerwick L. Skidelsky<br />

L. Lawson of Blaby L. Vallance of Tummel<br />

L. Layard L. Wakeham (Chairman);<br />

L. Macdonald of Tradeston<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint a sub-committee and to refer to such subcommittee<br />

any of the matters within the terms of reference of the Committee; that the<br />

Committee have power to appoint the Chairman of such sub-committee;<br />

That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purpose of serving on such subcommittee;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Economic AVairs Committee or any subcommittee<br />

in the last session of <strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. European Union—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to consider European Union documents and other matters relating to the<br />

European Union;<br />

That the expression “European Union documents” shall include the following documents:<br />

(i) Any proposal under the Community Treaties for legislation by the Council or the Council<br />

acting jointly with the European <strong>Parliament</strong>;<br />

(ii) Any document which is published for submission to the European Council, the Council<br />

or the European Central Bank;<br />

(iii) Any proposal for a common strategy, a joint action or a common position under Title V<br />

(provisions on a common foreign and security policy) of the Treaty on European Union<br />

which is prepared for submission to the Council or to the European Council;<br />

(iv) Any proposal for a common position, framework decision, decision or a convention<br />

under Title VI (provisions on police and judicial co-operation in criminal matters) of the<br />

Treaty on European Union which is prepared for submission to the Council;<br />

(v) Any document (not falling within (ii), (iii) or (iv) above) which is published by one Union<br />

institution for or with a view to submission to another Union institution and which does<br />

not relate exclusively to consideration of any proposal for legislation;<br />

(vi) Any other document relating to European Union matters deposited in the House by a<br />

Minister of the Crown;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:


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L. Bowness L. Radice<br />

L. Dubs L. Renton of Mount Harry<br />

L. Geddes L. Scott of Foscote<br />

L. Grenfell (Chairman) L. Shutt of Greetland<br />

L. Hannay of Chiswick B. Thomas of Walliswood<br />

L. Harrison L. Tomlinson<br />

B. Maddock L. Woolmer of Leeds<br />

L. Marlesford L. Wright of Richmond;<br />

L. Neill of Bladen<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees and to refer to such subcommittees<br />

any of the matters within the terms of reference of the Committee; that the<br />

Committee have power to appoint the Chairmen of sub-committees, but that such subcommittees<br />

have power to appoint their own Chairman for the purpose of particular inquiries;<br />

that two be the quorum of such sub-committees;<br />

That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purpose of serving on a subcommittee;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Reports of the Select Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding<br />

any adjournment of the House;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the European Union Committee or any subcommittee<br />

in the last session of <strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Mental Health Bill, Draft—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Committee of<br />

twelve Lords be appointed to join with a Committee appointed by the Commons to consider<br />

and report on any draft Mental Health Bill presented to both Houses by a Minister of the<br />

Crown;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the Lords following be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

B. Barker B. McIntosh of Hudnall<br />

L. Carlile of Berriew L. Mayhew of Twysden<br />

L. Carter B. Murphy<br />

B. Cumberlege B. Pitkeathley<br />

B. Eccles of Moulton L. Rix<br />

B. Finlay of LlandaV L. Turnberg;<br />

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a<br />

Chairman;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the quorum of the Committee shall be two;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>;<br />

That the proceedings of the Joint Committee on the draft Mental Health Bill in the last session<br />

of <strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee;<br />

That the reports of the Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding any<br />

adjournment of the House;<br />

And that the Committee do report on the draft Bill by 31st March 2005;<br />

the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaint<br />

them therewith.<br />

15. Merits of Statutory Instruments—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select<br />

Committee be appointed to consider every instrument which is laid before each House of<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> and upon which proceedings may be or might have been taken in either House of<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>, in pursuance of an Act of <strong>Parliament</strong>, being:<br />

(i)<br />

(ii)<br />

a statutory instrument, or a draft of a statutory instrument;<br />

a scheme, or an amendment of a scheme, or a draft thereof, requiring approval by<br />

statutory instrument; or


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(iii)<br />

any other instrument (whether or not in draft), where the proceedings in pursuance of an<br />

Act of <strong>Parliament</strong> are proceedings by way of an aYrmative or negative resolution;<br />

but excluding any Order in Council or draft Order in Council made or proposed to be made<br />

under paragraph 1 of the Schedule to the Northern Ireland Act 2000 and any remedial order<br />

or draft remedial order under Schedule 2 to the Human Rights Act 1998 and any draft order<br />

proposed to be made under section 1 of the Regulatory Reform Act 2001, or any subordinate<br />

provisions order made or proposed to be made under that Act;<br />

with a view to determining whether the special attention of the House should be drawn to it<br />

on any of the following grounds:<br />

(a)<br />

(b)<br />

that it is politically or legally important or gives rise to issues of public policy likely to be<br />

of interest to the House;<br />

that it is inappropriate in view of the changed circumstances since the passage of the<br />

parent Act;<br />

(c) that it inappropriately implements European Union legislation;<br />

(d)<br />

that it imperfectly achieves its policy objectives;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Addington L. McKenzie of Luton<br />

L. Armstrong of Ilminster L. Methuen<br />

L. Boston of Faversham E. Northesk<br />

V. Colville of Culross B. Royall of Blaisdon<br />

L. Hunt of Kings Heath (Chairman) V. Ullswater;<br />

L. Jopling<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Reports of the Select Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding<br />

any adjournment of the House;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Constitutional Reform Bill [HL]— It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton that the<br />

amendments for the Report Stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 6 Clauses 32 to 47<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 9<br />

Clause 7 Clauses 48 and 49<br />

Schedule 2 Schedule 10<br />

Clause 8 Clause 50<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 11<br />

Clause 9 Clauses 51 to 68<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 12<br />

Clause 10 Clauses 69 to 99<br />

Schedule 5 Schedule 13<br />

Clause 11 Clauses 100 to 104<br />

Schedule 6 Schedule 14<br />

Clauses 12 to 17 Clause 105<br />

Schedule 7 Schedule 15<br />

Clauses 18 to 31 Clause 106 to 108;<br />

Schedule 8<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill [hl]— It was moved by the Lord JoVe that the bill be now<br />

read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Select<br />

Committee.<br />

18. Queen’s Speech—The debate on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty<br />

was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned till tomorrow.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


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Tuesday 30th November 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.


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Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McFarlane of LlandaV, B.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northfield, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.


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Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Coventry.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Madden (Petitioner) v. Preferred Technical Group CHA Limited and another (Respondents)—<br />

The petition of George Gerard Madden praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the<br />

time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

Papers<br />

2. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Historic Buildings—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Select<br />

Committee on the OYce of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local<br />

Government and the Regions, on the Role of Historic Buildings in Urban Regeneration.<br />

(6420)<br />

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Employment Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 2004, laid under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 2000; (3078)<br />

2. (i) Landlord and Tenant (Notice of Rent) (England) Regulations 2004— (3096)<br />

(ii) Leasehold Houses (Notice of Insurance Cover) (England) Regulations<br />

2004— (3097)<br />

(iii) Leasehold Valuation Tribunals (Procedure) (Amendment) (England) Regulations<br />

2004— (3098)<br />

laid under the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act 2002;<br />

3. (i) Family Proceedings Fees Order 2004— (3114)<br />

(ii) Non-Contentious Probate Fees Order 2004— (3120)<br />

(iii) Civil Proceedings Fees Order 2004— (3121)<br />

laid under the Courts Act 2003;<br />

4. Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 3) Rules 2004, laid under the Civil Procedure Act 1997;<br />

(3129)<br />

5. National Assembly for Wales (Transfer of Records) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Government of Wales Act 1998. (3137)<br />

4. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the National Endowment for Science, Technology and<br />

the Arts, laid under the National Lottery Act 1998.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

5. Statutory Instruments—The First Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance (Decisions and Appeals) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2004;<br />

Draft Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of OVences) Order 2004;<br />

Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (European Police OYce) Order<br />

2004;<br />

Draft European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the European Police OYce)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2004;<br />

Draft European Police College (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2004;


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Public Business<br />

Draft International Criminal Court (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2004;<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (No. 2)<br />

Order 2004;<br />

Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 2004;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 7)<br />

6. Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill [hl]— It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that,<br />

as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the Select<br />

Committee on the bill:<br />

E. Arran L. Mackay of Clashfern (Chairman)<br />

L. Carlile of Berriew L. Patel<br />

B. Finlay of LlandaV Bp. St Albans<br />

B. Hayman L. Taverne<br />

B. Jay of Paddington B. Thomas of Walliswood<br />

L. JoVe L. Turnberg;<br />

L. McColl of Dulwich<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

That the proceedings of the Committee on the Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill [hl]<br />

in the last session of <strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee; and<br />

That the Committee do meet on Thursday 2nd December;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

7. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a<br />

Select Committee be appointed to report whether the provisions of any bill inappropriately<br />

delegate legislative power, or whether they subject the exercise of legislative power to an<br />

inappropriate degree of parliamentary scrutiny; to report on documents and draft orders laid<br />

before <strong>Parliament</strong> under the Regulatory Reform Act 2001; and to perform, in respect of such<br />

documents and orders and subordinate provisions orders laid under that Act, the functions<br />

performed in respect of other instruments by the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville L. Harrison<br />

B. Carnegy of Lour B. Scott of Needham Market<br />

L. Dahrendorf (Chairman) L. Shaw of Northstead<br />

L. Desai L. Temple-Morris;<br />

L. Garden<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

8. Human Rights—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee of six<br />

Lords be appointed to join with a Committee appointed by the Commons as the Joint<br />

Committee on Human Rights:<br />

To consider:<br />

(a) matters relating to human rights in the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> (but excluding consideration of<br />

individual cases);<br />

(b) proposals for remedial orders, draft remedial orders and remedial orders made under<br />

section 10 of and laid under Schedule 2 to the Human Rights Act 1998; and<br />

(c) in respect of draft remedial orders and remedial orders, whether the special attention of<br />

the House should be drawn to them on any of the grounds specified in Standing Order 74<br />

(Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments);<br />

To report to the House:<br />

(a) in relation to any document containing proposals laid before the House under paragraph<br />

3 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether a draft order in the same terms as<br />

the proposals should be laid before the House; or<br />

(b) in relation to any draft order laid under paragraph 2 of the said Schedule 2, its<br />

recommendation whether the draft Order should be approved;<br />

and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the<br />

said proposals or draft orders; and


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To report to the House in respect of any original order laid under paragraph 4 of the said<br />

Schedule 2, its recommendation whether:<br />

(a)<br />

(b)<br />

the order should be approved in the form in which it was originally laid before <strong>Parliament</strong>;<br />

or<br />

that the order should be replaced by a new order modifying the provisions of the original<br />

order; or<br />

(c) that the order should not be approved,<br />

and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the<br />

said order or any replacement order;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the Lords following be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Bowness L. Judd<br />

L. Campbell of Alloway L. Plant of Highfield<br />

B. Falkner of Margravine B. Stern;<br />

That the Committee have power to agree with any Committee appointed by the Commons in<br />

the appointment of a Chairman;<br />

That the quorum of the Committee shall be two;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Human Rights Committee in the last session of<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaint<br />

them therewith.<br />

9. Education Bill [hl]— A bill to make provision about the inspection of schools, child minding, day<br />

care, nursery education and careers services; to make other provision about school education;<br />

to make provision about the training of persons who work in schools and other persons who<br />

teach, about the supply of personal information for purposes related to education and about<br />

the attendance of children at educational provision outside schools; and for connected<br />

purposes was presented by the Lord Filkin, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 10)<br />

10. Education Bill [hl]— It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 10-EN)<br />

11. Queen’s Speech—The debate was resumed on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented<br />

to Her Majesty as follows—<br />

“Most Gracious Sovereign,<br />

We, Your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> assembled, beg leave to thank Your Majesty for the most gracious Speech<br />

which Your Majesty has addressed to both Houses of <strong>Parliament</strong>,”;<br />

After further debate, the motion was agreed to nemine dissentiente, and it was ordered that the<br />

Address be presented to Her Majesty by the Lord Chamberlain.<br />

12. Mental Health—A message was brought from the Commons that they concur with the resolution<br />

of this House of 29th November relating to a Joint Committee of both Houses on any draft<br />

Mental Health Bill and that they have made the following orders:<br />

That, in accordance with the Order of the House of 20th July in the last Session of <strong>Parliament</strong>,<br />

a Select Committee of twelve Members be appointed to join with a Committee appointed by<br />

the Lords, as the Joint Committee on the draft Mental Health Bill, with the same terms of<br />

reference, powers and membership as in the last Session and that the proceedings of the Joint<br />

Committee on the draft Mental Health Bill in the last Session of <strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the<br />

Committee; and<br />

That the Committee do meet with the Committee appointed by the Lords on Wednesday 1st<br />

December at half-past nine o’clock in the Boothroyd Room.<br />

The House was adjourned at nine minutes before eight o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


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2004<br />

Wednesday 1st December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell of Croy, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.


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Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stokes, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


26 1st December<br />

2004<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Manchester.<br />

1. Barony of Abinger in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Petition of James Harry Scarlett<br />

claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Abinger in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong><br />

and praying that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter the petitioner as the<br />

Lord Abinger on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5) was<br />

presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report upon to the House<br />

pursuant to Standing Order 11.<br />

2. Viscountcy of Oxfuird in the Peerage of Scotland—The Lord Chancellor reported that Ian<br />

Alexander Arthur Makgill had established his succession to the Viscountcy of Oxfuird. The<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s was accordingly directed to enter the Viscount of Oxfuird on the<br />

register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5).<br />

Judicial Business<br />

3. Regina v. Smith (Appellant) (2004) (No. 2) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division))—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

4. Autologic Holdings plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

5. BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

6. The Future Network plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

7. Perkins Engines Company Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

8. HJ Heinz Company Inc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

9. British Telecommunications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

10. Appeal Committee—The 5th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Serco Limited (Respondents) v. Lawson (Appellant)—That the petition of the Foreign and<br />

Commonwealth OYce that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be<br />

allowed.<br />

AE (FC) and another (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—That the petition of the OYce of the <strong>United</strong> Nations High Commissioner for<br />

Refugees that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be allowed.<br />

11. Appeal Committee—The 6th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Mahajan (Petitioner) v. Department for Constitutional AVairs (Respondents)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused.<br />

R (on the application of Mahajan) (Applicant) v. Central London County Court<br />

(Respondents) (First application)—That leave to appeal be refused.<br />

R (on the application of Mahajan) (Applicant) v. Central London County Court<br />

(Respondents) (Second application)—That leave to appeal be refused.<br />

R (on the application of Mahajan) (Applicant) v. Central London County Court<br />

(Respondents) (Third application)—That leave to appeal be refused.


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R (on the application of Mahajan) (Applicant) v. Central London County Court<br />

(Respondents) (Fourth application)—That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible.<br />

Kosky Seal & Co (Respondents) v. Mahajan (Applicant)—That the petition be dismissed as<br />

inadmissible.<br />

Papers<br />

12. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Plastic Materials and Articles in Contact with Food (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (3113)<br />

2. Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Repeal and Revocation) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Private Security Industry Act 2001. (3145)<br />

13. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2003–04 of the following Education Action Zones, together with the<br />

Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

(i) Easington and Seaham—<br />

(ii) East Cleveland—<br />

(iii) Great Yarmouth—<br />

(iv) North Stockton—<br />

(v) Peterlee—<br />

(vi) South Bradford—<br />

(vii) South East SheYeld—<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;<br />

2. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Fire Authority for Northern Ireland, laid under<br />

the Northern Ireland Act 2000.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

14. Human Rights—The following Reports from the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed:<br />

Protocol No. 14 to the European Convention on Human Rights, together with appendices;<br />

(First Report—HL Paper 8)<br />

Draft Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of OVences) Order 2004, together with an<br />

appendix. (2nd Report–HL Paper 9)<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debates on<br />

the motions in the names of the Baroness Gardner of Parkes and the Lord Hanningfield set<br />

down for today shall each be limited to 2° hours; the motion was agreed to<br />

16. Constitution Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee<br />

be appointed to examine the constitutional implications of all public bills coming before the<br />

House; and to keep under review the operation of the constitution;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Acton L. Holme of Cheltenham (Chairman)<br />

V. Bledisloe L. Lang of Monkton<br />

L. Carter L. MacGregor of Pulham Market<br />

L. Elton B. O’Cathain<br />

B. Gould of Potternewton E. Sandwich<br />

B. Hayman L. Smith of Clifton;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Constitution Committee in the last session of<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

the motion was agreed to.


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17. House Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to supervise the general administration of the House and guide the work of the<br />

Management Board; to agree the annual Estimates, Supplementary Estimates and the threeyear<br />

spending forecasts; to approve the House of Lords Annual Report; and to approve<br />

changes in employment policy;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together with the<br />

Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee;<br />

B. Amos (Lord President) L. McNally<br />

L. Barnett L. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn<br />

L. Burlison L. Sharman<br />

L. Hunt of Wirral L. Strathclyde<br />

L. Lloyd of Berwick L. Williamson of Horton;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Reports of the Select Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding<br />

any adjournment of the House;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Science and Technology—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee<br />

be appointed to consider science and technology and that, as proposed by the Committee of<br />

Selection, the following Lords be named of the Select Committee:<br />

L. Broers (Chairman) B. Sharp of Guildford<br />

B. Finlay of LlandaV L. Soulsby of SwaVham Prior<br />

L. Mitchell L. Sutherland of Houndwood<br />

L. Patel L. Taverne<br />

L. Paul L. Turnberg<br />

B. Perry of Southwark L. Winston<br />

B. Platt of Writtle L. Young of GraVham;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees and that the Committee have<br />

power to appoint the Chairmen of sub-committees;<br />

That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purposes of serving on the<br />

Committee or any sub-committee;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee or any subcommittee<br />

in the last session of <strong>Parliament</strong> be referred to the Committee;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Deputy Chairmen of Committees—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that, as<br />

proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be appointed as the panel of<br />

Lords to act as Deputy Chairmen of Committees for this session:<br />

V. Allenby of Megiddo B. Hooper<br />

L. Ampthill B. Lockwood<br />

L. Boston of Faversham L. Lyell<br />

L. Brougham and Vaux C. Mar<br />

L. Carter B. Pitkeathley<br />

L. Cope of Berkeley B. Ramsay of Cartvale<br />

L. Elton V. Simon<br />

B. Fookes B. Thomas of Walliswood<br />

L. Geddes L. TordoV<br />

B. Gould of Potternewton B. Turner of Camden<br />

L. Grocott V. Ullswater;<br />

L. Haskel<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Hospital-acquired infections (2°-hour debate)— It was moved by the Baroness Gardner of Parkes<br />

that there be laid before the House papers relating to Government health policies, with<br />

particular reference to initiatives designed to reduce hospital-acquired infections; after debate,<br />

the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.


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21. Regional agencies and bodies (2°-hour debate)— It was moved by the Lord Hanningfield that<br />

there be laid before the House papers relating to the current status of the regional agencies and<br />

bodies, and to the case for returning their responsibilities to elected local government; after<br />

debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes past seven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

Thursday 2nd December 2004<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.


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Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luce, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stokes, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.


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Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Manchester.<br />

1. Earldom of Iddesleigh in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Lord Chancellor reported that<br />

John StaVord Northcote had established his succession to the Earldom of Iddesleigh. The<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s was accordingly directed to enter the Earl of Iddesleigh on the<br />

register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5).<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Sirius International Insurance Company (Publ) (Appellants) v. FAI General Insurance Limited<br />

and others (Respondents)—It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 6th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered<br />

and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 4th April 2003 (as amended on 30th<br />

April 2003) be set aside and the Order of Mr Justice Jacob in the High Court (Chancery<br />

Division) (Companies Court) of 23rd July 2002 restored; and that the question of costs be<br />

adjourned in order that the parties may make written submissions within 14 days. [2004]<br />

UKHL 54<br />

3. R (on the application of C (FC) and another (FC)) (children acting through their father and<br />

litigation friend) (Petitioners) v. Secretary of State for the Foreign and Commonwealth OYce<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of C and D praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioners’ certificates of public funding were lodged.<br />

4. Zafar (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent)—The petition of Mahmud<br />

Zafar praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960<br />

was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Appellant) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for<br />

lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended<br />

to 17th January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and<br />

it was ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Respondent) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 17th<br />

January 2005 (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 109th Report, Session<br />

2003–04:<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Petitioner) ex parte Tum (FC)<br />

(Respondent) and one other action—That the following question be referred to the Court of<br />

Justice of the European Communities for a preliminary ruling under Article 234 of the Treaty<br />

establishing the European Community: “Is Article 41(1) of the Additional Protocol to the<br />

Association Agreement signed at Brussels on 23rd November 1970 to be interpreted as<br />

prohibiting a Member State from introducing new restrictions, as from the date on which that<br />

Protocol entered into force in that Member State, on the conditions of and procedure for entry<br />

to its territory for a Turkish national seeking to establish himself in business in that Member<br />

State?”; that, in accordance with Article 55(2) of the Rules of Procedure of the Court of Justice,<br />

the President of the Court be requested to give the disposal of the reference for a preliminary<br />

ruling in this case priority over other cases in view of the special circumstances of this case; and<br />

that further consideration of the petition for leave to appeal be adjourned pending the<br />

preliminary ruling from the Court of Justice of the European Communities.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Departmental Performance—Performance Reports for—


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(i) Department for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs; (6396)<br />

(ii) Department for Education and Skills; (6399)<br />

(iii) Department for Transport; (6403)<br />

(iv) Department for International Development; (6405)<br />

(v) OYce of the Deputy Prime Minister; (6421)<br />

(vi) Home OYce; (6423)<br />

2. Budget—Pre-Budget Report, Opportunity for all: The strength to take the long-term<br />

decisions for Britain; (6408)<br />

3. Contingent Liability—<br />

(i) Indemnity to Members of the Flood Defence Committee; (—)<br />

(ii) Indemnity to Retired Members of the Environment Agency Pension Committee;<br />

(—)<br />

(iii) Minute from the Ministry of Defence on Contingent Liability for Opening Basra<br />

Airport; (—)<br />

4. Defence—Minute from the Ministry of Defence Concerning the Gifting of Military<br />

Equipment to the Iraqi Interim Government.<br />

9. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) Regulations 2004, laid under<br />

the Local Government Finance Act 1988, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Race Relations Act 1976 (Statutory Duties) Order 2004— (3125)<br />

(ii) Race Relations Act 1976 (General Statutory Duty) Order 2004— (3127)<br />

laid under the Race Relations Act 1976;<br />

2. Public Lending Right Scheme 1982 (Commencement of Variation) (No. 2) Order 2004,<br />

laid under the Public Lending Right Act 1979. (3128)<br />

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

(i) Accounts for 2002–03 of the Northern Ireland Social Care Council—<br />

(ii) Accounts for 2002–03 of the Northern Ireland Practice and Education Council for<br />

Nursing and Midwifery—<br />

(iii) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Department of Finance and Personnel—<br />

(iv) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Social Care Council—<br />

(v) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Practice and Education Council for<br />

Nursing and Midwifery—<br />

laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000.<br />

Public Business<br />

12. Queen’s Speech—The Queen’s answer to the Address of 30th November last was delivered by the<br />

Lord Chamberlain (Lord Luce) and read, as follows:<br />

I have received with great satisfaction the dutiful and loyal expression of your thanks for the<br />

speech with which I opened the present Session of <strong>Parliament</strong>.<br />

13. Liaison Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to advise the House on the resources required for select committee work and to<br />

allocate resources between select committees; to review the select committee work of the<br />

House; to consider requests for ad hoc committees and report to the House with<br />

recommendations; to ensure eVective co-ordination between the two Houses; and to consider<br />

the availability of Lords to serve on committees;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together with the<br />

Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee:<br />

B. Amos (Lord President) L. Moser<br />

L. Geddes B. Pitkeathley<br />

B. Hayman B. Scott of Needham Market<br />

L. Kimball L. Strathclyde<br />

L. McNally L. Williamson of Horton;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

the motion was agreed to.


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14. Privileges—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Committee for Privileges be<br />

appointed and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together<br />

with the Chairman of Committees and any four Lords of Appeal be named of the Committee:<br />

B. Amos (Lord President) L. McNally<br />

L. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville L. Marsh<br />

L. Browne-Wilkinson L. Merlyn-Rees<br />

L. Carlisle of Bucklow L. Roper<br />

L. Cope of Berkeley L. Strabolgi<br />

L. Graham of Edmonton L. Strathclyde<br />

L. Grocott L. Williamson of Horton;<br />

L. Mackay of Clashfern<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees and that such sub-committees<br />

have power to appoint their own Chairmen;<br />

That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purposes of serving on any subcommittee;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Procedure of the House—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Select Committee<br />

on Procedure of the House be appointed and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection,<br />

the following Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee:<br />

L. Addington L. Grenfell<br />

L. Alderdice L. Grocott<br />

B. Amos (Lord President) L. Hoyle<br />

B. Blatch L. Jopling<br />

V. Bledisloe L. Kimball<br />

L. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville L. McNally<br />

V. Brookeborough L. Roper<br />

L. Burnham L. Snape<br />

L. Cope of Berkeley L. Strathclyde<br />

B. David B. Symons of Vernham Dean<br />

L. Donaldson of Lymington L. Wakeham<br />

L. Dubs B. Warnock<br />

L. Falconer of Thoroton L. Williams of Elvel<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

L. Williamson of Horton;<br />

L. Geddes<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Refreshment—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to advise on the refreshment services provided for the House, within financial limits<br />

approved by the House Committee;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee;<br />

L. Borrie L. Palmer<br />

L. Davies of Oldham L. Redesdale<br />

L. Denham B. Rendell of Babergh<br />

B. Fookes (Chairman) Ly. Saltoun of Abernethy<br />

B. Gould of Potternewton B. Strange<br />

B. Harris of Richmond L. Wade of Chorlton;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. House Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the 2nd Report from the<br />

Select Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. (HL Paper 196, Session 2003–04)<br />

18. Sexual equality (EUC Report)— It was moved by the Lord Williamson of Horton that this House<br />

takes note of the Report of the European Union Committee on Sexual Equality in Access to<br />

Goods and Services (27th Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 165); after debate, the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

19. Regulatory state—It was moved by the Lord Norton of Louth that this House takes note of the<br />

Report of the Select Committee on the Constitution on the Regulatory State: Ensuring its<br />

Accountability (6th Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 68); after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

20. World Trade Organization (EUC Report)— It was moved by the Lord Radice that this House<br />

takes note of the Report of the European Union Committee on The World Trade<br />

Organization: the role of the EU post-Cancún (16th Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 104);<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at five minutes before six o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.


34 6th December<br />

2004<br />

Monday 6th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.


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McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Salisbury.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) v. Hindawi and another (Petitioner)<br />

(FC)—The petition of Prince Charles Headley praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

2. R v. Longworth (Petitioner)—The petition of Gary Dean Longworth praying for leave to appeal<br />

in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

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3. Regina v. Special Adjudicator (Respondent) ex parte Hoxha (FC) (Appellant)—The petition of the<br />

OYce of the <strong>United</strong> Nations High Commissioner for Refugees praying for leave to intervene<br />

in the said appeal by way of written submissions only was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

4. In re B (FC) (Appellant) (2002)—The petition of the OYce of the <strong>United</strong> Nations High<br />

Commissioner for Refugees praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal by way of written<br />

submissions only was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Serco Limited (Respondents) v. Lawson (Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and<br />

referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

6. Regina v. Mercieca (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

7. Barker (Respondent) v. Saint Gobain Pipelines plc (Appellants)—<br />

8. Patterson (son and executor of the estate of J Patterson (deceased)) (Respondent) v. Smiths Dock<br />

Limited (Appellants) and others—<br />

9. Murray (widow and executrix of the estate of John Lawrence Murray (deceased)) (Respondent) v.<br />

British Shipbuilders (Hydrodynamics) Limited (Appellants) and others and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix<br />

and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 17th January 2005 (the agents for<br />

the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

10. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Kehoe (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and<br />

appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 10th January 2005 (the<br />

agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

11. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Appellant) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Respondents)—<br />

12. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Respondent) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Appellants)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined; that they be allowed to<br />

lodge separate statements and cases and one appendix in respect of the two appeals; and that<br />

the respondents have leave to lodge separate cases (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

13. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Departmental Performance—Performance Report for—<br />

(i) Department for Constitutional AVairs; (3rd December) (6391)<br />

(ii) Crown Prosecution Service. (3rd December) (6398)<br />

14. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)— The following negative instruments, having been laid<br />

before the House on 3rd December, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Tyne Metropolitan College (Incorporation) Order 2004— (3108)<br />

(ii) Tyne Metropolitan College (Government) Regulations 2004— (3109)<br />

laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;<br />

2. (i) Anglian Regional Flood Defence Committee (Abolition) Order 2004— (3163)<br />

(ii) Wessex Regional Flood Defence Committee Order 2004— (3164)<br />

(iii) Southern Regional Flood Defence Committee Order 2004— (3165)<br />

laid under the Environment Act 1995;<br />

3. (i) Penalties for Disorderly Behaviour (Amount of Penalty) (Amendment No. 3) Order<br />

2004— (3167)<br />

(ii) Penalties for Disorderly Behaviour (Form of Penalty Notice) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2004— (3169)<br />

laid under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001;<br />

4. Immigration (Exemption from Control) (Amendment) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Immigration Act 1971; (3171)<br />

5. Town and Country Planning (Electronic Communications) (Wales) (No. 3) Order 2004,<br />

laid under the Electronic Communications Act 2000. (3172)


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15. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Marketing Authorisations for Veterinary Medicinal Products (Revocation of<br />

Confidentiality Provision) Regulations 2004, laid under the European Communities Act<br />

1972; (3193)<br />

2. (i) Building Societies (Accounts and Related Provisions) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2004— (3199)<br />

(ii) Building Societies Act 1986 (Modification of the Lending Limit and Funding Limit<br />

Calculations) Order 2004— (3200)<br />

laid under the Building Societies Act 1986;<br />

3. Amendments to Charter and Statutes of Templeton College Oxford, laid under the<br />

Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923. (—)<br />

16. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> Film Council, laid under the<br />

National Lottery etc. Act 1993.<br />

Public Business<br />

17. Administration and Works—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select<br />

Committee be appointed to consider administrative services, accommodation and works,<br />

including works relating to security, within financial limits approved by the House<br />

Committee;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together with the<br />

Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee;<br />

Bp. Chelmsford<br />

B. McFarlane of LlandaV<br />

L. Cope of Berkeley E. Mar and Kellie<br />

B. Darcy de Knayth L. Roper<br />

L. Dixon L. Shaw of Northstead<br />

L. Grocott B. Wilkins<br />

L. Kirkham L. Williamson of Horton;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Works of Art—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to administer the House of Lords Works of Art Collection Fund; and to consider<br />

matters relating to works of art and the artistic heritage in the House of Lords, within financial<br />

limits approved by the House Committee;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee;<br />

L. Bernstein of Craigweil E. Onslow<br />

V. Chandos L. Redesdale<br />

L. Cobbold L. Rees<br />

L. Crathorne (Chairman) L. Rees-Mogg<br />

L. Eames L. TordoV<br />

L. Luke B. Warwick of UndercliVe;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Hybrid Instruments—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to consider hybrid instruments and that, as proposed by the Committee of<br />

Selection, the following Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Campbell of Alloway L. Harrison<br />

V. Craigavon L. Luke<br />

B. Fookes L. Sandberg;<br />

L. Grantchester<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Personal Bills—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to consider personal bills and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the<br />

following Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee:<br />

V. Allenby of Megiddo L. Slynn of Hadley<br />

L. Geddes L. Templeman<br />

V. Simon B. Thomas of Walliswood;


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the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Standing Orders (Private Bills)— It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select<br />

Committee on the Standing Orders relating to private bills be appointed and that, as proposed<br />

by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together with the Chairman of<br />

Committees be named of the Committee:<br />

L. Geddes L. Naseby<br />

B. Gould of Potternewton L. Palmer<br />

L. Greaves V. Simon;<br />

L. Luke<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Agriculture (Northern Ireland) Order 2004—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of<br />

Ribbleton that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Financial Provisions (Northern Ireland) Order 2004—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington<br />

of Ribbleton that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

24. Disability Discrimination Bill [HL]— It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the<br />

bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was<br />

committed to a Grand Committee.<br />

25. Extradition to the <strong>United</strong> States—The Lord Goodhart asked Her Majesty’s Government whether<br />

they will reconsider the current legal provisions governing extradition to the <strong>United</strong> States;<br />

after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Bassam of Brighton.<br />

The House was adjourned at twelve minutes before seven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 7th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Belstead, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridge of Harwich, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cooke of Thorndon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.


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Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Durham, Bp.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grabiner, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Heseltine, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hutchinson of Lullington, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.


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Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Phillips of Worth Matravers, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of GraVham, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Salisbury.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. N (Kenya) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—The<br />

petition of N praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

Papers<br />

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Environment—Report of the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution: Turning<br />

the Tide: Addressing the Impact of Fisheries on the Marine Environment; (6392)<br />

2. Departmental Performance—Performance Reports for the—<br />

(i) Northern Ireland OYce; (6419)<br />

(ii) Department of Trade and Industry. (6422)<br />

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment and Support Schemes (Cross<br />

Compliance) (England) Regulations 2004— (3196)<br />

(ii) Recreational Craft (Amendment) Regulations 2004— (3201)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

2. (i) Water Mergers (Modification of Enactments) Regulations 2004— (3202)<br />

(ii) Water Mergers (Determination of Turnover) Regulations 2004— (3206)<br />

laid under the Water Industry Act 1991;<br />

3. Enterprise Act 2002 (Merger Fees and Determination of Turnover) (Amendment) Order<br />

2004, laid under the Enterprise Act 2002; (3204)<br />

4. Patents Act 2004 (Commencement No. 2 and Consequential, etc. and Transitional<br />

Provisions) Order 2004, laid under the Patents Act 2004; (3205)<br />

5. (i) Amendments to the Statutes of the Manchester Academy and Harris College,<br />

Oxford— (—)<br />

(ii) Amendments to the Statutes of the College of Saint John Baptist, Oxford— (—)<br />

laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923.<br />

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Directions to the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority in respect of the following sites:<br />

(i) Bradwell—<br />

(ii) Berkeley—<br />

(iii) Capenhurst—<br />

(iv) Chapelcross—<br />

(v) Drigg—<br />

(vi) Dounreay—<br />

(vii) Dungeness A—<br />

(viii) Harwell—<br />

(ix) Hinkley Point A—<br />

(x) Hunterston A—<br />

(xi) Oldbury—<br />

(xii) Sellafield—<br />

(xiii) Sizewell A—<br />

(xiv) Springfields—<br />

(xv) Trawsfynydd—<br />

(xvi) Windscale—<br />

(xvii) Winfrith—<br />

(xviii) Wylfa—<br />

laid under the Energy Act 2004.


42 7th December<br />

2004<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

5. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

First Report, on the following aYrmative instrument:<br />

Draft Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) Regulations 2004. (HL<br />

Paper 10)<br />

6. Statutory Instruments—The 2nd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instrument:<br />

Draft Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) Regulations 2004;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 11)<br />

Public Business<br />

7. Information—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be appointed<br />

to consider information and communications services, including the Library and the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Archives, within financial limits approved by the House Committee;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Avebury E. Erroll<br />

L. Baker of Dorking (Chairman) B. Gardner of Parkes<br />

L. Brooke of Alverthorpe B. Goudie<br />

L. Brougham and Vaux L. Haskel<br />

L. Craig of Radley L. Rodger of Earlsferry<br />

L. Drayson L. Smith of Clifton;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

8. Statutory Instruments—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees, pursuant to Standing<br />

Order 74 and the resolution of the House of 16th December 1997, that, as proposed by the<br />

Committee of Selection, the following Lords be appointed to join with a Committee of the<br />

Commons as the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments:<br />

L. Brougham and Vaux L. Greenway<br />

L. Dykes L. Lea of Crondall<br />

B. Gale L. Mancroft;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

9. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Broadcasting Unit Limited (PARBUL)— It was moved by the Chairman of<br />

Committees that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named<br />

as members of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Broadcasting Unit Limited (PARBUL):<br />

L. Brabazon of Tara L. Paul<br />

L. Burnham L. Thomson of Monifieth;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

10. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary OYce of Science and Technology (POST)—It was moved by the Chairman of<br />

Committees that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be<br />

appointed to serve as members of the Board of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary OYce of Science and<br />

Technology (POST):<br />

E. Erroll L. Oxburgh<br />

L. Flowers L. Winston;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

11. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]— The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave<br />

of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); an<br />

amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); amendments were agreed to; further<br />

consideration on report was adjourned.<br />

12. Borough Freedom (Family Succession) Bill [hl]— It was moved by the Lord Graham of<br />

Edmonton that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and<br />

the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

13. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]— The bill was further considered on report; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; further<br />

consideration on report was adjourned after amendment 35.<br />

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes before ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


2004 7th December<br />

43<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Lloyd of Berwick, before Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Lord Chancellor:<br />

membership of the House of Lords); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the<br />

House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 229<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 206<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Belstead, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridge of Harwich, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Heseltine, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L. [Teller]<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.


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2004<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of GraVham, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hutchinson of Lullington, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.


2004 7th December<br />

45<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L. [Teller]<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, before Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Lord Chancellor: further<br />

qualification for appointment); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the<br />

House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 215<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 175<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Belstead, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridge of Harwich, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.


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2004<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of GraVham, L.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.


2004 7th December<br />

47<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L. [Teller]<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Viscount Bledisloe, in Clause 1, page 1, line 13, to leave out subsections (4) to (6);<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 128<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 178<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V. [Teller]<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.


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2004<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.


2004 7th-8th December<br />

49<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L. [Teller]<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Wednesday 8th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Canterbury, Abp.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.


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2004<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

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Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Salisbury.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. College of Estate Management (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the<br />

statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th January 2005.<br />

2. West Bromwich Building Society (Appellants) v. Wilkinson and another (Respondents)<br />

(England)—The appeal of West Bromwich Building Society was presented and it was ordered<br />

that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on<br />

or before 19th January 2005.<br />

3. Blackburn Chemicals Limited (Petitioners) v. Bim Kemi AB (Respondents)—The petition of<br />

Blackburn Chemicals Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee.<br />

4. R (on the application of Hammond) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Petitioner)—The petition of the Secretary of State for the Home Department praying for<br />

leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. In re McClean (Original Respondent and Cross-appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the original appellants praying that<br />

the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might<br />

be extended to 19th January 2005 (the agents for the original respondent consenting thereto)<br />

was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 113th Report, Session<br />

2003–04:<br />

Trustees of the Robin Settlement (Petitioners) v. Trippier (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes)<br />

(Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for<br />

her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount<br />

thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

7. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 24th November, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Draft Information and Consultation of Employees Regulations 2004.<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Environment—Delivering the Essentials of Life: Department for Environment Food and<br />

Rural AVairs’ Five Year Strategy; (6411)<br />

2. European Union—Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe. (6429)<br />

9. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Information and Consultation of Employees Regulations 2004, laid under the<br />

Employment Relations Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Child Minding and Day Care (Disclosure Functions) (England) Regulations 2004, laid<br />

under the Children Act 1989; (3136)<br />

2. (i) Non-Domestic Rating (Unoccupied Property) (England) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2004— (3146)<br />

(ii) Non-Domestic Rating (Stud Farms) (England) Order 2004— (3151)<br />

(iii) Non-Domestic Rating (Former Agricultural Premises) (England) Order 2004—<br />

(3152)<br />

(iv) Non-Domestic Rating (Rural Settlements) (England) (Amendment) Order 2004—<br />

(3153)<br />

laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988;


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3. Plant Health (Forestry) (Phytophthora ramorum) (Great Britain) Order 2004, laid under<br />

the Plant Health Act 1967; (3213)<br />

4. (i) Insurance Accounts Directive (Lloyd’s Syndicate and Aggregate Accounts)<br />

Regulations 2004— (3219)<br />

(ii) Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Satellite Monitoring Measures)<br />

Amendment (Revocation) (England) Regulations 2004— (3227)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

5. Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Satellite Monitoring Measures) Order 2004,<br />

laid under the Fisheries Act 1981. (3226)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

11. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

First Report, on the following bills and Act:<br />

International Organisations Bill [hl];<br />

Inquiries Bill [hl];<br />

Borough Freedom (Family Succession) Bill [hl];<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner (Amendment) Bill [hl];<br />

Age-Related Payments Act 2004; (HL Paper 12)<br />

2nd Report, on the following Orders:<br />

Proposal for the draft Regulatory Reform (Prison OYcers) (Industrial Action) Order<br />

2004;<br />

Proposal for the draft Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature Conservation Committee) Order<br />

2005; (HL Paper 13)<br />

3rd Report, on the proposal for the draft Regulatory Reform (Registration of Births and<br />

Deaths) (England and Wales) Order 2004. (HL Paper 14)<br />

12. Human Rights—The 3rd Report from the Joint Committee, Deaths in Custody, together with<br />

Appendices and Minutes, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 15)<br />

Public Business<br />

13. Succession to the Crown Bill [hl]— A bill to make provision about succession to the Crown and<br />

about Royal marriages was presented by the Lord Dubs, read a first time and ordered to be<br />

printed. (HL Bill 11)<br />

14. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos), that the debate on the motion in the name of the Baroness Linklater of<br />

Butterstone set down for today shall be limited to 4 hours; the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Crime prevention (4-hour debate)— It was moved by the Baroness Linklater of Butterstone that<br />

there be laid before the House papers relating to the case for wider community involvement<br />

in determining policies relevant to crime prevention, alternatives to prison and the<br />

rehabilitation of oVenders, in the interests of public confidence in the criminal justice system;<br />

after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

16. Vaccination programme—The Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts asked Her Majesty’s<br />

Government what they propose to do to increase the level of public trust in their vaccination<br />

and immunisation programme; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Warner.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before eight o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

Thursday 9th December 2004<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

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Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.


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Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rochester, Bp.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Salisbury.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Immigration OYcer at Prague Airport and another (Respondents) ex parte European<br />

Roma Rights Centre and another (FC) and another and others (FC) (Appellants)—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 7th Report from the Appellate Committee<br />

be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be<br />

dismissed insofar as it relates to the asylum issue but allowed insofar as it relates to the<br />

discrimination issue; that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 20th May 2003 and the Order<br />

of Mr Justice Burton in the High Court (Queen’s Bench Division) (Administrative Court) of<br />

10th October 2002 be set aside; that it be declared that “<strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> Immigration OYcers<br />

operating under the authority of the Home Secretary at Prague Airport discriminated against<br />

Roma who were seeking to travel from that airport to the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> by treating them<br />

less favourably on racial grounds than they treated others who were seeking to travel from<br />

that airport to the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>, contrary to section 1(1)(a) of the Race Relations Act<br />

1976”; that the question of costs be adjourned in order that the parties may make written<br />

submissions within 14 days; and that the costs of the publicly funded appellants in this House<br />

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2. R (on the application of Jones and others) (Respondents) v. Ceredigion County Council<br />

(Appellants) (Civil Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice) (England)—The appeal<br />

of Ceredigion County Council was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 20th January<br />

2005 (lodged 8th December).<br />

3. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Reynolds (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

4. Deep Vein Thrombosis and Air Travel Group Litigation (8 actions) (formerly 24 actions)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

5. Matthews and others (Appellants) v. Kent and Medway Towns Fire Authority and others<br />

(Respondents)—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without<br />

giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order (lodged 1st December).<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 7th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Regina v. Special Adjudicator (Respondent) ex parte Hoxha (FC) (Appellant)—That the<br />

petition of the OYce of the <strong>United</strong> Nations High Commissioner for Refugees that they might<br />

intervene in the said appeal by way of written submissions only be allowed.<br />

In re B (FC) (Appellant) (2002)—That the petition of the OYce of the <strong>United</strong> Nations High<br />

Commissioner for Refugees that they might intervene in the said appeal by way of written<br />

submissions only be allowed.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Health—<br />

(i) Fifth Report of the Shipman Enquiry: Safeguarding Patients: Lessons From the<br />

Past—Proposals For the Future; (6394)<br />

(ii) Government Response to the Fourth Report of the Shipman Enquiry: Safer<br />

Management of Controlled Drugs; (6434)<br />

2. Departmental Performance—Performance Report for—<br />

(i) HM Treasury— (6395)<br />

(ii) Department for Work and Pensions; (6397)<br />

3. Civil Contingencies—Civil Contingencies Act 2004: Consultation on the Draft Regulations<br />

and Guidance: Government consultation document; (6401)<br />

4. Electoral Law—<br />

(i) Government Response to the Report of the Electoral Commission: Voting for<br />

Change—An electoral law modernisation programme; (6426)<br />

(ii) Government Response to the Report of the Electoral Commission: Delivering<br />

Democracy? The future of postal voting; (6436)<br />

5. NATO—Protocols to the North Atlantic Treaty on the Accession of Bulgaria, Estonia,<br />

Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, the Slovak Republic and Slovenia. (6428)<br />

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies (Disapplication) (England) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Local Government Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Representation of the People (Variation of Limits of Candidates’ Election<br />

Expenses) (City of London) Order 2005, laid under the Representation of the People Act<br />

1983, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. (i) Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order<br />

2005, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(iii) Draft Scotland Act 1998 (River Tweed) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Scotland Act 1998.


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9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (South West Trains Class 444 and Class 450 Vehicles)<br />

Exemption (Amendment) Order 2004— (3139)<br />

(ii) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (South Central Class 377/4) Exemption Order 2004—<br />

(3198)<br />

laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995;<br />

2. Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004 (Consequential Amendments) (England) Order 2004,<br />

laid under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004; (3168)<br />

3. (i) Goods Vehicle Operators (Qualifications) (Amendment) Regulations 2004— (3222)<br />

(ii) Public Service Vehicle Operators (Qualifications) (Amendment) Regulations 2004—<br />

(3223)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

4. Electricity (Exemption from the Requirement for a Generation Licence) (Scotland) Order<br />

2004, laid under the Electricity Act 1989; (3225)<br />

5. Consumer Credit Act 1974 (Electronic Communications) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Electronic Communications Act 2000; (3236)<br />

6. Consumer Credit (Enforcement, Default and Termination Notices) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Consumer Credit Act 1974; (3237)<br />

7. International Criminal Court Act 2001 (Elements of Crimes) (No. 2) Regulations 2004,<br />

laid under the International Criminal Court Act 2001; (3239)<br />

8. Artificial Insemination of Cattle (Animal Health) (England and Wales) (Amendment)<br />

(England) Regulations 2004, laid under the Animal Health and Welfare Act 1984;<br />

(3231)<br />

9. (i) Protection of Wrecks (Designation) (England) (No. 3) Order 2004— (3243)<br />

(ii) Protection of Wrecks (Designation) (England) (No. 2) Order 2004— (3249)<br />

laid under the Protection of Wrecks Act 1973;<br />

10. Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations<br />

2004, laid under the Data Protection Act 1998. (3244)<br />

10. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Sports Council for Wales, laid under the National<br />

Lottery etc. Act 1993.<br />

Public Business<br />

11. European Union—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Lord Blackwell be<br />

appointed a member of the Select Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

12. Information—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Lord Chadlington be<br />

appointed a member of the Select Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Statutory Instruments—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Lord Howard of<br />

Rising be appointed a Lords member of the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Tax Law Rewrite Bills—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee of<br />

six Lords be appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons to consider<br />

tax law rewrite bills, and in particular to consider whether each bill committed to it preserves<br />

the eVect of the existing law, subject to any minor changes which may be desirable;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Blackwell L. Haskel<br />

B. Cohen of Pimlico L. Howe of Aberavon<br />

L. Goodhart L. Millett;<br />

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a<br />

Chairman;<br />

That the quorum of the Committee shall be two;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;


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That the procedure of the Joint Committee shall follow the procedure of select committees of<br />

the House of Commons when such procedure diVers from that of select committees of this<br />

House, and shall include the power of the chairman to select amendments;<br />

the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaint<br />

them therewith.<br />

15. Inquiries Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland, on behalf of the Lord<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to and the bill was committed to a Grand Committee.<br />

16. Criminal Defence Service (Choice in Very High Cost Cases) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations<br />

2004—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that the draft Regulations laid<br />

before the House on 21st October be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Institute of Trade Mark Attorneys Order 2004—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of<br />

Upholland that the draft Order laid before the House on 3rd November be approved; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Freedom of Information (Time for Compliance with Request) Regulations 2004—It was moved<br />

by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 4th<br />

November be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Freedom of Information (Removal and Relaxation of Statutory Prohibitions on Disclosure of<br />

Information) Order 2004—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that the draft<br />

Order laid before the House on 4th November be approved; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

20. West Northamptonshire Development Corporation (Area and Constitution) Order 2004—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Rooker that the Order laid before the House on 13th May be approved;<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) Regulations 2004—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Rooker that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 2nd December be approved;<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Agency for International Trade Information and Co-operation (Legal Capacities) Order 2004—It<br />

was moved by the Baroness Crawley that the draft Order laid before the House on 16th<br />

September be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. International Criminal Court (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2004—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Crawley that the draft Order laid before the House on 24th November be approved;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

24. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (European Police OYce) Order 2004—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Triesman that the draft Order laid before the House on 24th November<br />

be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

25. European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the European Police OYce) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord Triesman that the draft Order laid before the House<br />

on 24th November be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

26. European Police College (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Triesman that the draft Order laid before the House on 24th November be approved; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

27. Critical National Infrastructure—The Lord Harris of Haringey asked Her Majesty’s Government<br />

whether they are satisfied with the ability of the Critical National Infrastructure to withstand<br />

cyber-attack; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Bassam of Brighton.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-one minutes past five o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 13th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.


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Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

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Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chester.<br />

1. Lord Scarman—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that Lord Scarman, a member of the<br />

House, had died on 8th December 2004.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. A and others (Petitioners) (FC) and others v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of C and D praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioners’ certificates of public funding were lodged<br />

(lodged 6th December).<br />

3. London Borough of Waltham Forest (Respondents) v. Omilaju (Petitioner)—The petition of Folu<br />

Omilaju praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Pirelli Cable Holding NV and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

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5. N (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—The appeal was<br />

set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

6. Haward and others (Respondents) v. Fawcetts (a firm) (Appellants) and others—The appeal was<br />

set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

7. R (on the application of Bushell and others) (Respondents) v. Newcastle upon Tyne Licensing<br />

Justices and others (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for<br />

lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended<br />

to 10th January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and<br />

it was ordered as prayed.<br />

8. Ali (Respondent) v. Headteacher and Governors of Lord Grey School (Appellants)—The petition<br />

of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting<br />

down the cause for hearing might be extended to 25th January 2005 (the agents for the<br />

respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

9. Appeal Committee—The 8th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Sutradhar (Petitioner) v. Natural Environment Research Council (Respondents)—That the<br />

petition be referred for hearing.<br />

Papers<br />

10. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Departmental Performance—Performance Report for the Cabinet OYce. (6414)<br />

11. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following negative instruments, having been laid<br />

before the House on 10th December, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Motor Cars (Driving Instruction) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2004, laid under the<br />

Road TraYc Act 1988; (3159)<br />

2. Medicines (Pharmacies) (Applications for Registration and Fees) Amendment<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Medicines Act 1968; (3197)<br />

3. Building (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2004, laid under the Building Act 1984;<br />

(3210)<br />

4. Local Authorities (Categorisation) (England) (No. 2) Order 2004, laid under the Local<br />

Government Act 2003; (3211)<br />

5. Police (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the Police Act 1996; (3216)<br />

6. (i) Medicines (Marketing Authorisations and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations<br />

2004— (3224)<br />

(ii) Feeding StuVs (Safety Requirements for Feed for Food-Producing Animals)<br />

Regulations 2004— (3254)<br />

(iii) Controls On Phentabromodiphenyl Ether And Octabromodiphenyl Ether (No. 2)<br />

Regulations 2004— (3278)<br />

(iv) Statistics of Trade (Customs and Excise) (Amendment) Regulations 2004— (3284)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

7. Joint Municipal Waste Management Strategies (Disapplication of Duties) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Waste and Emissions Trading Act 2003; (3242)<br />

8. (i) Motorways TraYc (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2004— (3258)<br />

(ii) Motorways TraYc (Scotland) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2004— (3261)<br />

laid under the Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984;<br />

9. Fireworks (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the Fireworks Act 2003; (3262)<br />

10. Immigration (Claimant’s Credibility) Regulations 2004, laid under the Asylum and<br />

Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004; (3263)<br />

11. Public Interest Disclosure (Prescribed Persons) (Amendment) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Employment Rights Act 1996; (3265)<br />

12. Pollution Prevention and Control (England and Wales) (Amendment) and Connected<br />

Provisions Regulations 2004, laid under the Pollution Prevention and Control Act 1999;<br />

(3276)<br />

13. OGCbuying.solutions Trading Fund (Appropriation of Additional Assets and<br />

Liabilities) Order 2004, laid under the Trading Funds Act 1973; (3277)<br />

14. General Food Regulations 2004, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (3279)<br />

15. Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment No. 2) Rules (Northern Ireland)<br />

2004, laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981;<br />

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16. Companies (1986 Order) (International Accounting Standards and Other Accounting<br />

Amendments) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2004, laid under the Northern Ireland Act<br />

2000. (—)<br />

12. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Access to the Countryside (Means of Access, Appeals) (England) Regulations 2004, laid<br />

under the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000; (3305)<br />

2. National Health Service (General Medical Services Contracts) (Prescription of Drugs<br />

etc.) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;<br />

(3215)<br />

3. Non-Domestic Rating Contributions (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid<br />

under the Government Finance Act 1988. (3234)<br />

13. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Gloucester Education Action Zone, laid under the School<br />

Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of the Comptroller and<br />

Auditor General;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Sports Council for Northern Ireland Lottery Distribution,<br />

laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

14. Statutory Instruments—The minutes of proceedings of the Joint Committee for Session 2003–04<br />

were ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 16)<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Inquiries Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton that it be an instruction to the<br />

Grand Committee to which the Inquiries Bill has been committed that they consider the bill<br />

in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 44 Clause 46<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 3<br />

Clause 45 Clauses 47 to 50;<br />

Schedule 2<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Education Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Filkin that the bill be now read a second time; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole<br />

House.<br />

17. Agriculture (Northern Ireland) Order 2004—The Grand Committee reported that it had<br />

considered the draft Order.<br />

18. Financial Provisions (Northern Ireland) Order 2004—The Grand Committee reported that it had<br />

considered the draft Order.<br />

19. Marine environment—The Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer asked Her Majesty’s<br />

Government what is the current state of the marine environment and what progress has been<br />

made in establishing a marine landscape classification; after debate, the question was<br />

answered by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton.<br />

The House was adjourned at six minutes past eight o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 14th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

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Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grabiner, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.


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Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Stallard, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

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Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chester.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. OYce of the King’s Prosecutor, Brussels (Respondents) v. Armas (Appellant) and others (Criminal<br />

Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The appeal of Eddison Rodrigo Cando<br />

Armas was presented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable<br />

thereto.<br />

2. R (on the application of Kent Pharmaceuticals Limited) (Petitioners) v. Director of the Serious<br />

Fraud OYce (Respondent)—The petition of Kent Pharmaceuticals Limited praying for leave<br />

to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 8th December).<br />

3. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—The petition of the Secretary of State<br />

for the Home Department praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Horton (Appellant) v. Sadler and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying that<br />

the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might<br />

be extended to 25th January 2005 (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was<br />

presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

5. Regina v. Walls (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—The<br />

petition of the appellants was presented praying that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms<br />

agreed between the parties (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto); and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 9th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

CIBC Mellon Trust Company (acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada<br />

Limited’s Benefits Plan, the Chrysler Canada Limited Master Trust Fund, the Chrysler<br />

Canada Limited Non-Canadian Master Trust and the Holmes Foundry Division Master<br />

Trust Fund and the Chrysler Canada Limited Supplemental Unemployment Benefit Plans)<br />

and others (Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and others and others (Petitioners)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Corbett (Petitioner) v. Bond Pearce (a firm) (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited<br />

to lodge objections by 5th January 2005.<br />

Papers<br />

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Law Commission—Report from the Law Commission: Towards a Compulsory Purchase<br />

Code: (2) Procedure, Final Report; (6406)<br />

2. Departmental Performance—Performance Report for the—<br />

(i) Foreign and Commonwealth OYce; (6409)<br />

(ii) Department of Health; (6417)<br />

3. Boundary Commission for Scotland—Fifth Periodical Report of the Boundary<br />

Commission for Scotland. (6427)<br />

8. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Constituencies (Scotland) Order 2005, laid under the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

Constituencies Act 1986, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.


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9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Fire and Rescue Services (National Framework) (England) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004; (3217)<br />

2. Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) (No. 5) Regulations 2004, laid<br />

under the European Communities Act 1972; (3298)<br />

3. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of<br />

Hertfordshire) (District of East Hertfordshire) Order 2004, laid under the Road TraYc<br />

Act 1991; (3310)<br />

4. Non-Domestic Rating (Small Business Rate Relief) (England) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Local Government Finance Act 1988. (3315)<br />

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Amendment to the Rates of Pay, Allowances and Pensions of the Royal Air Force, laid<br />

under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917;<br />

2. Twelfth Report of the OYce of the Oversight Commissioner for Northern Ireland, laid<br />

under the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

11. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

2nd Report, on the following negative instrument:<br />

Education (School Performance Targets) (England) Regulations 2004. (HL Paper 17)<br />

12. Statutory Instruments—The 3rd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Information and Consultation of Employees Regulations 2004;<br />

Draft Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies (Disapplication) (England) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Representation of the People (Variation of Limits of Candidates’ Election<br />

Expenses) (City of London) Order 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 18)<br />

Public Business<br />

13. Agriculture (Northern Ireland) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos)<br />

that the draft Order laid before the House on 24th November be approved; the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

14. Financial Provisions (Northern Ireland) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the draft Order laid before the House on 25th November be approved;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; further<br />

consideration on report was adjourned.<br />

16. Consolidated Fund Bill—A bill to authorise the use of resources for the service of the years ending<br />

with 31st March 2005 and 31st March 2006 and to apply certain sums out of the Consolidated<br />

Fund to the service of the years ending with 31st March 2005 and 31st March 2006 was<br />

brought from the Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a<br />

money bill and read a first time.<br />

17. Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of OVences) Order 2004—It was moved by the Baroness<br />

Scotland of Asthal that the draft Order laid before the House on 15th November be approved;<br />

then it was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, as an amendment thereto, at end to insert<br />

“but that this House calls on Her Majesty’s Government to reconsider the policy furthered by<br />

the Order which undermines the presumption of innocence, will lead to wrongful convictions,<br />

and will thereby destroy public confidence in the criminal justice system”; after debate, the<br />

amendment was disagreed to (see division list); then the original motion was agreed to.


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18. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were<br />

agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered<br />

that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 12)<br />

The House was adjourned at twelve minutes past eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISION<br />

CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 2003 (CATEGORIES <strong>OF</strong> <strong>OF</strong>FENCES) ORDER 2004<br />

It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, as an amendment to the motion in the name of the<br />

Baroness Scotland of Asthal, at end to insert “but that this House calls on Her Majesty’s Government<br />

to reconsider the policy furthered by the Order which undermines the presumption of innocence, will<br />

lead to wrongful convictions, and will thereby destroy public confidence in the criminal justice system”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 42<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 90<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Dholakia, L. [Teller]<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B. [Teller]<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


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Wednesday 15th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashdown of Norton-sub-<br />

Hamdon, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.


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Imbert, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newcastle, Bp.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.


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Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chester.<br />

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Tuesday 21st<br />

December.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Speed Investments Limited and others (Respondents) v. Formula One Holdings Limited and<br />

others (Petitioners)—The petition of Bambino Holdings Limited, Luc Argand and<br />

Emmanuele Argand-Rey praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 13th December).<br />

3. Topplan Estates Limited (Petitioners) v. Townley (Respondent)—The petition of Topplan Estates<br />

Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. CMA CGM SA (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Classica Shipping Company<br />

Limited (Original Respondents and Cross-petitioners)—The petition of Classica Shipping<br />

Company Limited praying for leave to cross-appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 7th December).<br />

5. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the First Report:<br />

R (on the application of Tromans and another) (Respondents) v. Cannock Chase District<br />

Council (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to<br />

apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that<br />

the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 10th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R (on the application of DFS Furniture Company plc) (Petitioners) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that<br />

the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and,<br />

if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Reed Executive plc and others (Petitioners) v. Reed Business Information Limited and others<br />

(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply<br />

for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Midland Mainline Limited and others (Petitioners) v. Commercial Union Assurance<br />

Company Limited and others and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given; and<br />

that the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th January 2005.<br />

Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. First Choice Holidays<br />

plc (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply<br />

for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The 11th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—That the petition of the Secretary<br />

of State for the Home Department that he might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said<br />

appeal be allowed.<br />

Papers<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Finance—Treasury Minutes on the Thirty-fifth and Fortieth to Forty-third Reports from<br />

the Committee of Public Accounts; (6416)<br />

2. Defence—Minute from the Ministry of Defence, concerning the gifting of military<br />

equipment to the Iraqi Interim Government. (—)


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9. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Local Authorities (Contracting Out of BID Levy Billing, Collection and Enforcement<br />

Functions) Order 2004, laid under the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

10. Negative Instrument—The following instrument were laid before the House and ordered to lie on<br />

the Table:<br />

Health Professions Council (Election Scheme) Rules Order of Council 2004, laid under the<br />

Health Professions Order 2001. (3318)<br />

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Immigration (Designation of Travel Bans) (Amendment) Order 2004, laid under the<br />

Immigration Act 1971; (3316)<br />

2. (i) Report for 2002 and 2003 of the proceedings of the Agricultural Wages Board for<br />

Northern Ireland under the Agricultural Wages (Regulation) (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 1977—<br />

(ii) Report and Accounts for 2003-04 of the General Consumer Council for Northern<br />

Ireland—<br />

(iii) Report and Accounts for 2003-04 of the Labour Relations Agency for Northern<br />

Ireland—<br />

laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

12. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

4th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [hl];<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl];<br />

Education Bill [hl];<br />

Succession to the Crown Bill [hl]; (HL Paper 19)<br />

5th Report, on the following bill:<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—Government amendments for Third Reading. (HL<br />

Paper 20)<br />

13. Constitution Committee—The First Report from the Select Committee, on the Inquiries Bill [hl],<br />

was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 21)<br />

Public Business<br />

14. Mental Capacity Bill—A bill to make new provision relating to persons who lack capacity; to<br />

establish a superior court of record called the Court of Protection in place of the oYce of the<br />

Supreme Court called by that name; to make provision in connection with the Convention on<br />

the International Protection of Adults signed at the Hague on 13th January 2000; and for<br />

connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be<br />

printed. (HL Bill 13)<br />

15. Mental Capacity Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed.<br />

(HL Bill 13-EN)<br />

16. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that Standing Order<br />

47 (No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with to allow the Consolidated<br />

Fund Bill to be taken through its remaining stages on Thursday 16th December; after debate,<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Education Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Triesman, on behalf of the Lord Filkin, that it be<br />

an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House to which the Education Bill [hl] has been<br />

committed that they consider the bill in the following order:<br />

Clause 1 Clause 66<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 11<br />

Clauses 2 to 18 Clauses 67 to 69<br />

Schedule 2 Schedule 12<br />

Clauses 19 to 26 Clauses 70 to 74<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 13<br />

Clause 27 Clauses 75 to 95<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 14<br />

Clauses 28 to 45 Clause 96


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Schedule 5 Schedule 15<br />

Clauses 46 to 49 Clauses 97 and 98<br />

Schedule 6 Schedule 16<br />

Clauses 50 to 52 Clauses 99 to 103<br />

Schedule 7 Schedule 17<br />

Clause 53 Clauses 104 to 113<br />

Schedule 8 Schedule 18<br />

Clauses 54 to 60 Clauses 114 to 119<br />

Schedule 9 Schedule 19<br />

Clauses 61 to 65 Clauses 120 to 124;<br />

Schedule 10<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Turkey and the European Union (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Lord Cobbold that there<br />

be laid before the House papers relating to the proposed accession of Turkey to the European<br />

Union; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

19. Football (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Lord Faulkner of Worcester that there be laid<br />

before the House papers relating to the state of English football; after debate, the motion was<br />

(by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

20. Motor Vehicles (Wearing of Seat Belts) (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Davies of Oldham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 8th November<br />

be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes past eight o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

Thursday 16th December 2004<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burnham, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell of Croy, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

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Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.


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Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chester.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. A (FC) and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—<br />

2. X (FC) and another (FC) (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 8th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the two<br />

Orders of the Court of Appeal of 25th October 2002 be set aside except insofar as they provide<br />

for detailed assessment of the appellants’ Legal Service Commission costs; that the Order of<br />

the Special Immigration Appeals Commission of 30th July 2002 be restored except for costs<br />

and amended in accordance with the declaration of this House; that there be a quashing order<br />

in respect of the Human Rights Act 1998 (Designated Derogation) Order 2001 (SI 2001 No.<br />

3644); that it be declared under section 4 of the Human Rights Act 1998 that: “Section 23 of<br />

the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 is incompatible with Articles 5 and 14 of the<br />

European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms<br />

insofar as it is disproportionate and permits detention of suspected international terrorists in<br />

a way that discriminates on the ground of nationality or immigration status”; that the<br />

Secretary of State for the Home Department do pay to the appellants in both appeals their<br />

costs before the Special Immigration Appeals Commission, in the Court of Appeal and in this<br />

House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s<br />

if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellants in this House be taxed<br />

in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999, such costs to include a certificate for two<br />

leading counsel and one junior counsel. [2004] UKHL 56<br />

3. R (on the application of Jones and others) (Respondents) v. Ceredigion County Council<br />

(Appellants) (Civil Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The appeal was set<br />

down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

4. Burton (Her Majesty’s Collector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Mellham Limited (Appellants)—The<br />

petition of the appellants, praying that the appeal be restored and for leave to give security for<br />

costs notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order V has expired (the agents for<br />

the respondent consenting thereto), was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

5. Massey and another (Appellants) v. Boulden and another (Respondents)—The petition of the<br />

appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 31st January 2005 (the agents for the respondents<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 12th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R (on the application of Fisher and others) (Petitioners) v. English Nature (Respondents)—<br />

That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in<br />

accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be<br />

certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Codona (FC) (Petitioner) v. Mid Bedfordshire District Council (Respondents)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Access to<br />

Justice Act 1999; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

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7. Appeal Committee—The 13th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Habib Bank Limited (Petitioners) v. Iqbal (Respondent)—That the petition be referred for<br />

hearing.<br />

Habib Bank Limited (Respondents) v. Liverpool Freeport (Electronics) Limited and others<br />

and another (Petitioner) and one other action—That leave to appeal be refused; that the<br />

respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if<br />

the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s<br />

if not agreed between the parties.<br />

8. Appeal Committee—The 14th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

CMA CGM SA (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Classica Shipping Company<br />

Limited (Original Respondents and Cross-petitioners)—That leave to cross-appeal be given;<br />

and that the petition of cross-appeal be lodged by 5th January 2005.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

9. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Disability—Disability Discrimination Bill: Consultation on private clubs; premises; the<br />

definition of disability and the questions procedure: Government consultation document;<br />

(6402)<br />

2. Works of Art—Export of Works of Art 2003–04: The Fiftieth Report of the Reviewing<br />

Committee; (6404)<br />

3. Police—Accounts for 2000–01 of the Metropolitan Police Fund Account, Inner London<br />

Magistrates’ Courts Service and Inner London Probation Service; (6432)<br />

4. Health—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Health Select<br />

Committee on Obesity; (6438)<br />

5. Criminal Defence Service Bill, Draft—Framework Document for the Criminal Defence<br />

Service Bill. (6439)<br />

10. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Communications Data) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Directed Surveillance and Covert Human<br />

Intelligence Sources) (Amendment) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000;<br />

2. (i) Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2005,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Industrial Training Act 1982.<br />

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Education (Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986: Amendments to<br />

Disqualification Provisions) (England) Regulations 2004, laid under the Education Act<br />

2002; (3264)<br />

2. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of<br />

Hertfordshire) (District of North Hertfordshire) Order 2004, laid under the Road TraYc<br />

Act 1991; (3246)<br />

3. Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 (References to Financial Investigators) (Amendment No. 2)<br />

Order 2004, laid under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002. (3339)<br />

12. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of Enterprise Ulster, laid under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 2000;<br />

2. Report and Accounts for 2000 of the Loughs Agency, laid under the North/South Cooperation<br />

(Implementation Bodies) (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;<br />

3. Report by the Health Service Ombudsman: National Health Service Funding for Long<br />

Term Care, laid under the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993;


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4. Qualifying Revenue and Multiplex Revenue: Statement of Principles and Administrative<br />

Arrangements under the Broadcasting Act 1990 laid under that Act;<br />

5. Report for 2003 by the Registrar General on births and patterns of family building in<br />

England and Wales, laid under the Registration Service Act 1953.<br />

13. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Evans of Temple Guiting<br />

that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was<br />

committed to a Grand Committee.<br />

14. International Organisations Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean<br />

that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was<br />

committed to a Grand Committee.<br />

15. Consolidated Fund Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the bill be now read<br />

a second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committee was negatived; then, Standing<br />

Order 47 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a third time and passed.<br />

16. European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of<br />

Haringey that this House takes note with approval of the Government’s assessment as set out<br />

in the Pre-Budget Report 2004 for the purposes of section 5 of the European Communities<br />

(Amendment) Act 1993; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Building Societies Act 1986 (International Accounting Standards and Other Accounting<br />

Amendments) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that the draft Order<br />

laid before the House on 11th October be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order<br />

2004—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that the Order laid before the House on<br />

16th November be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance (Decisions and Appeals) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2004—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before<br />

the House on 16th November be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Social Security, Child Support and Tax Credits (Decisions and Appeals) Amendment Regulations<br />

2004—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before<br />

the House on 11th November be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Baroness Gould of Potternewton) notified the Queen’s Assent<br />

to the following Act:<br />

Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Act c. 38<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-three minutes past five o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 20th December 2004<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.


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Bridge of Harwich, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brightman, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.


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Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rochester, Bp.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Stallard, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Worcester.<br />

Papers<br />

1. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 16th December, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2005.<br />

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. International Development—Report for 2003–04 of the Global Opportunities Fund;<br />

(6413)<br />

2. Charity—Government Response to the Report of the Voluntary Giving Task Force;<br />

(6431)


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3. Departmental Performance—Report for the—<br />

(i) Department for Culture, Media and Sport; (6435)<br />

(ii) Inland Revenue; (6437)<br />

4. Defence—Minute from the Ministry of Defence, concerning the gifting of non-lethal<br />

military equipment to the Palestinian Authority. (—)<br />

3. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following negative instruments, having been laid<br />

before the House on 17th December, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

(i) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Transitional Provisions) (General<br />

Insurance Intermediaries) Order 2004— (3351)<br />

(ii) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Designated Professional Bodies)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2004— (3352)<br />

laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.<br />

4. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (Disapplication of Part IV for<br />

Northern Ireland Parties, etc) Order 2005, laid under the Political Parties, Elections and<br />

Referendums Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Enterprise Act 2002 (Bodies Designated to make Super-complaints) (Amendment) Order<br />

2004, laid under the Enterprise Act 2002; (3366)<br />

2. Plant Health (Phytophthora kernovii Management Zone) (England) Order 2004, laid<br />

under the Plant Health Act 1967; (3367)<br />

3. Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules, laid under the Immigration Act 1971. (—)<br />

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of English Heritage, laid under the National Heritage<br />

Act 1983;<br />

2. (i) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Independent Television Commission Additional<br />

Payments and Financial Penalties by Licensees Account, together with the Report of<br />

the Comptroller and Auditor General—<br />

(ii) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Radio Authority Additional Payments by Radio<br />

Licensees Account, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General—<br />

laid under the Broadcasting Act 1990;<br />

3. Accounts for 2003–04 of the OYce of Communications Licence Fees and Penalties<br />

Account, laid under the Communications Act 2003, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

4. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Kent and Somerset Education Action Zone, laid under the<br />

School Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of the Comptroller<br />

and Auditor General;<br />

5. (i) Code of Practice for the Police National Computer—<br />

(ii) Report for 2003–04 of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabulary—<br />

laid under the Police Act 1996.<br />

Private Business<br />

7. Private Bills—The Examiners’ certificates that the Standing Orders applicable to the petitions for<br />

the following bills have been complied with were delivered and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Liverpool City Council (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work);<br />

London Local Authorities;<br />

London Local Authorities and Transport for London;<br />

London Local Authorities (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work);<br />

Whitstable Oyster Fishery Company.<br />

8. HBOS Group Reorganisation Bill—The Examiner’s certificate that the Standing Orders<br />

applicable to the petition for the bill have not been complied with in respect of Standing<br />

Orders 4, 4A and 11 was delivered and referred to the Standing Orders Committee.


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Public Business<br />

9. School Transport Bill—A bill to make provision for school travel schemes; and for connected<br />

purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 14)<br />

10. School Transport Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed.<br />

(HL Bill 14-EN)<br />

11. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Evans of Temple Guiting<br />

that it be an instruction to the Grand Committee to which the Public Services Ombudsman<br />

(Wales) Bill [hl] has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:<br />

Clause 1 Schedule 4<br />

Schedule 1 Clauses 35 and 36<br />

Clauses 2 to 10 Schedule 5<br />

Schedule 2 Clauses 37 and 38<br />

Clauses 11 to 27 Schedules 6 and 7<br />

Schedule 3 Clauses 39 to 45;<br />

Clauses 28 to 34<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

12. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—After debate, the bill was read a third time; amendments were<br />

agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were<br />

disagreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); a privilege amendment was agreed to; the bill was<br />

passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

13. Religious attitudes—The Lord Bishop of Rochester asked Her Majesty’s Government, in the light<br />

of the international situation, what steps they are taking to support enlightened religious<br />

attitudes in the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and overseas; after debate, the question was answered by the<br />

Baroness Scotland of Asthal.<br />

14. Charities Bill [hl]—A bill to provide for the establishment and functions of the Charity<br />

Commission for England and Wales and the Charity Appeal Tribunal; to make other<br />

amendments of the law about charities, including provision about charitable incorporated<br />

organisations; to make further provision about public charitable collections and other<br />

fundraising carried on in connection with charities and other institutions; to make other<br />

provision about the funding of such institutions; and for connected purposes was presented<br />

by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 15)<br />

15. Charities Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 15-EN)<br />

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Lloyd of Berwick, before Clause 15, to insert the new Clause (House of Lords<br />

as a Supreme Court); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 133<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 199<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridge of Harwich, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brightman, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

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Flather, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L. [Teller]<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.


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81<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Salisbury, Bp.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in Clause 15, page 7, line 5, at end to insert “situated within the<br />

Palace of Westminster, but not entitled to use the chamber of the House of Lords for the hearing of<br />

appeals or the giving of judgments.”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the<br />

House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 126<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 190<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridge of Harwich, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brightman, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.


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Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.


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83<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Tuesday 21st December 2004<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.


84 21st December<br />

2004<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Glaisdale, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.


2004 21st December<br />

85<br />

Papers<br />

1. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Charities Bill, Draft—Government Response to the Report of the Joint Committee on<br />

the Draft Charities Bill; (6440)<br />

2. Standards in Public Life—An Inquiry into an Application for Indefinite Leave to<br />

Remain. (—)<br />

2. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Industrial Training Act 1982, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Child Trust Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Child Trust<br />

Funds Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Education (School Performance Targets) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2004,<br />

laid under the Education Act 1997; (3323)<br />

2. (i) Food with Added Phytosterols or Phytostanols (Labelling) (England) Regulations<br />

2004— (3344)<br />

(ii) Sweeteners in Food (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2004— (3348)<br />

laid under the Food Safety Act 1990;<br />

3. (i) Biofuel (Labelling) Regulations 2004— (3349)<br />

(ii) Electronic Commerce Directive (Financial Services and Markets) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2004— (3378)<br />

(iii) Life Assurance Consolidation Directive (Consequential Amendments) Regulations<br />

2004— (3379)<br />

(iv) Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment Scheme (Set-aside) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004— (3385)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

4. Protection of Children and Vulnerable Adults and Care Standards Tribunal<br />

(Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2004, laid under the Protection of Children Act 1999;<br />

(3354)<br />

5. Penalties for Disorderly Behaviour (Amount of Penalty) (Amendment No. 4) Order 2004,<br />

laid under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001; (3371)<br />

6. Child Trust Funds (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2004, laid under the Child Trust<br />

Funds Act 2004. (3382)<br />

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report for 2003 on the Children Act, laid under the Children Act 1989;<br />

2. The Kent Acts—A Case for National Legislation, laid under the Kent County Council<br />

Act 2001;<br />

3. Report of the Registrar General on Mortality Statistics in England and Wales 2003, laid<br />

under the Registration Service Act 1953;<br />

4. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Scottish Screen National Lottery Distribution Account, laid<br />

under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993;<br />

5. Report for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Parades Commission, laid under the Public<br />

Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

5. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

3rd Report, on the following negative instruments:<br />

Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment and Support Schemes (Cross Compliance)<br />

(England) Regulations 2004;<br />

Local Authorities (Categorisation) (England) (No. 2) Order 2004;<br />

Police (Amendment) Regulations 2004. (HL Paper 22)


86 21st December<br />

2004<br />

Public Business<br />

6. Administration and Works Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the<br />

First Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 209, Session 2003-04) be agreed to; then<br />

it was moved by the Lord Stoddart of Swindon, as an amendment thereto, to leave out “agreed<br />

to” and insert “referred back to the Committee for further consideration, including:<br />

(a) consultation with Members of the House, staV of the House and others concerned<br />

with smokers’ rights, including the Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy<br />

Smoking Tobacco;<br />

(b) consideration of the rights of smokers in any future plans for the Writing Room and<br />

the possible partition of the present Writing Room on a temporary basis; and<br />

(c) consideration of a possible reorganisation of the Bishops’ Bar so that smoking could<br />

be permitted in one of the two rooms.”;<br />

after debate, the amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); then it was moved by the<br />

Baroness Howarth of Breckland, as a further amendment thereto, at end to insert “but with<br />

the omission of paragraph 14(b), and with the insertion after paragraph 13(j) of the following<br />

new paragraph—<br />

“13(k) the Peers’ Guest Room.””;<br />

after debate, the amendment was agreed to (see division list 2); then the original motion, as<br />

amended, was agreed to.<br />

7. Environmental Information Regulations 2004—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the draft<br />

Regulations laid before the House on 27th October be approved; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

8. Electricity and Gas (Energy EYciency Obligations) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord Whitty<br />

that the draft Order laid before the House on 10th November be approved; after debate, the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

9. Information and Consultation of Employees Regulations 2004—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Sainsbury of Turville that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 8th December be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

10. Regulatory Reform (Unsolicited Goods and Services Act 1971) (Directory Entries and Demands<br />

for Payment) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord Sainsbury of Turville that the draft<br />

Regulatory Reform Order laid before the House on 25th October be approved; after debate,<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

11. Gulf War illnesses—The Lord Morris of Manchester asked Her Majesty’s Government what<br />

consideration they have given to the Report of the Independent Public Inquiry on Gulf War<br />

Illnesses, conducted by the Lord Lloyd of Berwick; after debate, the question was answered<br />

by the Lord Bach.<br />

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past five o’clock<br />

to Monday 10th January next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

FIRST REPORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND WORKS COMMITTEE,<br />

SESSION 2003-04<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Stoddart of Swindon, as an amendment to the motion that the First Report<br />

from the Select Committee be agreed to, to leave out “agreed to” and insert “referred back to the<br />

Committee for further consideration, including:<br />

(a) consultation with Members of the House, staV of the House and others concerned with<br />

smokers’ rights, including the Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy Smoking<br />

Tobacco;<br />

(b) consideration of the rights of smokers in any future plans for the Writing Room and the<br />

possible partition of the present Writing Room on a temporary basis; and<br />

(c) consideration of a possible reorganisation of the Bishops’ Bar so that smoking could be<br />

permitted in one of the two rooms.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 41<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 116


2004 21st December<br />

87<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L. [Teller]<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L. [Teller]<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L. [Teller]<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B. [Teller]<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Howarth of Breckland, as an amendment to the motion that the First<br />

Report from the Select Committee be agreed to, at end to insert “but with the omission of paragraph<br />

14(b), and with the insertion after paragraph 13(j) of the following new paragraph—<br />

“13(k) the Peers’ Guest Room.””;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 88*<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 53*<br />

* The name of a Lord who voted in both lobbies has been removed from the voting lists.


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2004<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L. [Teller]<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B. [Teller]<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Palmer, L. [Teller]<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Skelmersdale, L. [Teller]<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.


2005 10th January<br />

89<br />

Monday 10th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Briggs, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cooke of Thorndon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.


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Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Drumadoon, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stallard, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Worcester.<br />

1. Lord Burnham—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that Lord Burnham, a member of<br />

the House, had died on 1st January 2005.


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2. CMA CGM SA (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Classica Shipping Company<br />

Limited (Original Respondents and Cross-appellants) (England)—The cross-appeal of<br />

Classica Shipping Company Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 21st February<br />

(lodged 5th January).<br />

3. Fattal and another (Petitioners) v. John Lyon’s Charity (Respondents)—The petition of William<br />

Simon Fattal and Francine Fattal praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee (lodged 20th December).<br />

4. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Barclays Bank plc<br />

(Petitioners)—The petition of Barclays Bank plc praying for leave to appeal was presented<br />

and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 22nd December).<br />

5. MH (by her litigation friend, OYcial Solicitor) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Department of Health (Petitioner) and others—The petition of the Secretary of State for the<br />

Department of Health praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 5th January).<br />

6. Clays Lane Housing Co-operative Limited (Petitioners) v. Housing Corporation (Respondents)—<br />

The petition of Clays Lane Housing Co-operative Limited praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 5th January).<br />

7. Law Society (Respondents) v. Sephton & Co (a firm) (Petitioners) and another and others<br />

(Petitioners)—The petition of Sephton & Co, James Arthur Sephton, Philip Leslie Houlston<br />

and Alexander William Gordon Cunningham praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

8. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Petitioner) v. M (Respondent)—The petition of the<br />

Secretary of State for Work and Pensions praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that<br />

the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

9. Fengate Developments (a partnership) (Petitioners) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs<br />

and Excise (Respondents)—The petition of Fengate Developments praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

10. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Reynolds (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—The petition of the Child Poverty Action Group praying for leave to intervene<br />

in the said appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

11. Searby (Appellant) v. Yorkshire Traction Company Limited (Respondents)—The appeal was set<br />

down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 20th December).<br />

12. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing<br />

and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

13. CMA CGM SA (Appellants) v. Classica Shipping Company Limited (Respondents)—The petition<br />

of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting<br />

down the cause for hearing might be extended to 1st February (the agents for the respondents<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 21st December).<br />

14. McFarlane (Appellant) v. McFarlane (Respondent)—The petition of the appellant praying that<br />

the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might<br />

be extended to 23rd February (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was<br />

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15. Szoma (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 23rd February (the<br />

agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

16. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellant<br />

praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for<br />

hearing might be extended to 19th January (the agents for the respondents not consenting<br />

thereto) was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 5th January).<br />

17. Watkins (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Appellants) and others—The petition of the appellants<br />

praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for<br />

hearing might be extended to 21st February (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto)<br />

was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

18. Matthews and others (Appellants) v. Kent and Medway Towns Fire Authority and others<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 9th February (the<br />

agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

19. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Kehoe (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and<br />

appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 21st February (the<br />

agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

20. In re D (a child appearing by her guardian ad litem) (Respondent) (FC)—The petition of the<br />

appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 23rd February (the agents for the respondents<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

21. R (on the application of Bushell and others) (Respondents) v. Newcastle upon Tyne Licensing<br />

Justices and others (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for<br />

lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended<br />

to 24th January (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

22. Instruments withdrawn—The following instruments, laid before the House on the dates shown,<br />

were withdrawn on 7th January 2005:<br />

1. Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) 2005; (21st December<br />

2004)<br />

2. Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005. (16th December 2004)<br />

23. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 9th December 2004,<br />

was withdrawn on 10th January 2005:<br />

Draft Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies (Disapplication) (England) Order 2005.<br />

24. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Service Weapons—Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and France concerning the<br />

carrying of service weapons by French OYcers on the territory of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum; (7th January 2005) (6444)<br />

2. Transport—Government response to the Report from the House of Commons Transport<br />

Committee on TraYc Law and its Enforcement. (10th January 2005) (6442)<br />

25. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following negative instruments, having been laid<br />

before the House on the dates shown, were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the<br />

Table:


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Date of Laying<br />

Negative instruments<br />

Town and Country Planning (General Development Procedure) 3340 22nd December<br />

(Amendment) (England) Order 2004, laid under the Town and<br />

Country Planning Act 1990;<br />

Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) (Amendment) 3341 22nd December<br />

(No. 2) (England) Regulations 2004, laid under the Planning<br />

(Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990;<br />

National Health Service (Appointment of Consultants) Amendment 3365 22nd December<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the National Health Service Act<br />

1977;<br />

Local Government Pension Scheme (Amendment) (No. 2) 3372 22nd December<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Superannuation Act 1972;<br />

Family Proceedings (Amendment) Rules 2004, laid under the 3375 22nd December<br />

Matrimonial and Family Proceedings Act 1984;<br />

Family Proceedings Courts (Children Act 1989) (Amendment) Rules 3376 22nd December<br />

2004, laid under the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980;<br />

(i) Products of Animal Origin (Third Country Imports) (England) 3388 22nd December<br />

(No. 4) Regulations 2004—<br />

(ii) Greenhouse Gas Emissions Trading Scheme (Amendment) 3390 22nd December<br />

Regulations 2004—<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

(i) Education (Independent School<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2004—<br />

Standards) (England) 3374 23rd December<br />

(ii) Education (Provision of Information by Independent Schools)<br />

(England) (Amendment) Regulations 2004—<br />

3373 23rd December<br />

(i)<br />

laid under the Education Act 2002;<br />

LEA Budget, Schools Budget and Individual Schools Budget<br />

(England) Regulations 2004—<br />

3131 23rd December<br />

(ii) Financing of Maintained Schools (England) Regulations 3130 23rd December<br />

2004—<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;<br />

Council Tax and Non-Domestic Rating (Demand Notices) 3389 23rd December<br />

(England) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the Local<br />

Government Finance Act 1988;<br />

South-west Territorial Waters (Prohibition of Pair Trawling) Order 3397 23rd December<br />

2004, laid under the Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967;<br />

Control of Substances Hazardous to Health (Amendment) 3386 23rd December<br />

Regulations 2004, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc.<br />

Act 1974;<br />

Postgraduate Medical Education and Training Board (Members— 3410 31st December<br />

Removal from OYce) Rules Order 2004, laid under the General<br />

and Specialist Medical Practice (Education, Training and<br />

Qualifications) Order 2003;<br />

High Court (Distribution of Business) Order 2004, laid under the 3418 31st December<br />

Supreme Court Act 1981;<br />

Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 4) Rules 2004, laid under the Civil 3419 31st December<br />

Procedure Act 1997;<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Gibraltar) (Amendment) 1 6th January<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act<br />

2000.<br />

26. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies (Disapplication) (England) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Local Government Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. (i) Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2005,


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together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Industrial Training Act 1982.<br />

27. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. European Communities (Designation) (No. 7) Order 2004, laid under the European<br />

Communities Act 1972; (3328)<br />

2. Burma (Restrictive Measures) (Overseas Territories) (Amendment) Order 2004, laid<br />

under the Saint Helena Act 1833; (3333)<br />

3. Patents (Convention Countries) Order 2004, laid under the Patents Act 1977; (3335)<br />

4. Air Navigation (Overseas Territories) (Environmental Standards) Order 2004, laid under<br />

the Civil Aviation Act 1949; (3337)<br />

5. Firearms (Appeals and Applications) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid under<br />

the Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order 2004; (—)<br />

6. Energy (Amendment) Order (Northern Ireland) 2004, laid under the Energy (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2003; (—)<br />

7. Retained Organs Commission (Abolition) Order 2005, laid under the National Health<br />

Service Act 1977; (6)<br />

8. (i) Information Tribunal (National Security Appeals) Rules 2005— (13)<br />

(ii) Information Tribunal (Enforcement Appeals) Rules 2005— (14)<br />

laid under the Data Protection Act 1998.<br />

28. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Education Action Zone for Camborne Pool and Redruth,<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of<br />

the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the National Insurance Fund, laid under the Social Security<br />

Administration Act 1992, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General.<br />

3. Amendments to the Regulations in respect of Royal Air Force retired pay and pensions,<br />

laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917;<br />

4. Report of the making of a Call-out Order, laid under the Reserve Forces Act 1996.<br />

Public Business<br />

29. Mental Capacity Bill—It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton, on behalf of the Baroness<br />

Ashton of Upholland, that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

30. Mechanically-propelled vehicles—The Viscount Bridgeman asked Her Majesty’s Government<br />

what is their policy with regard to the use of mechanically-propelled vehicles on byways open<br />

to all traYc; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.<br />

The House was adjourned at three minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 11th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.


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Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.


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Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Worcester.<br />

1. Barony of Vivian in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Petition of Charles Crespigny<br />

Hussey Vivian claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Vivian in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong><br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> and praying that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter the<br />

petitioner as the Lord Vivian on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing<br />

Order 10(5) was presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report<br />

upon to the House pursuant to Standing Order 11.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Fayed and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and<br />

appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 31st January (the agents<br />

for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


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3. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The respondents now<br />

consenting to the petition praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and<br />

setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 19th January; it was ordered as<br />

prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Health—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Health Committee<br />

on the Provision of Allergy Services. (6433)<br />

5. Regulatory Reform—The following order was laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Prison OYcers) (Industrial Action) Order 2005, together with a<br />

Statement by the Home OYce.<br />

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Charges for Inspections and Controls (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Food Safety Act 1990; (12)<br />

2. Immigration (Procedure for Marriage) Regulations 2005, laid under the Asylum and<br />

Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004; (15)<br />

3. Gas Act 1986 (Exemption) Order 2005, laid under the Gas Act 1986; (16)<br />

4. Incidental Catches of Cetaceans in Fisheries (England) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Fisheries Act 1981; (17)<br />

5. National Health Service (Travel Expenses and Remission of Charges) Amendment<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; (26)<br />

6. Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules, laid under the Immigration Act 1971. (—)<br />

7. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Accounts for 2003 of the Crown Agents Holding and Realisation Board, laid under the Crown<br />

Agents Act 1979, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

8. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The 4th Report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 23)<br />

9. Statutory Instruments—The 4th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Child Trust Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Local Authorities (Contracting Out of BID Levy Billing, Collection and<br />

Enforcement Functions) Order 2004;<br />

Draft <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Constituencies (Scotland) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (Disapplication of Part IV<br />

for Northern Ireland Parties, etc) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies (Disapplication) (England) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) Order 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 24)<br />

Public Business<br />

10. Borough Freedom (Family Succession) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.<br />

11. Education Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.<br />

12. International Organisations Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee without<br />

amendment.<br />

13. Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 2004—It was moved by the<br />

Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the Order laid before the House on 17th November be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

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14. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments<br />

were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed after clause<br />

4 stood part.<br />

The House was adjourned at nine minutes before ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

International Organisations Bill [hl]—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee; amendments<br />

were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be reported without<br />

amendment.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at nine minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 12th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Flowers, L.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

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Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.


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Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Worcester.<br />

1. Barony of Abinger in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Lord Chancellor reported that<br />

James Harry Scarlett had established his succession to the Barony of Abinger in the Peerage<br />

of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>. The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s was accordingly directed to enter the<br />

Lord Abinger on the register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5).<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Sirius International Insurance Company (Publ) (Appellants) v. FAI General Insurance Limited<br />

and others (Respondents)—Further to the Judgment of the House of 2nd December 2004 (6th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee, Session 2004–05 [2004] UKHL 54), it was ordered that<br />

the respondents do pay to the appellants their costs before Mr Justice Jacob in the High Court<br />

(Chancery Division) (Companies Court), in the Court of Appeal and before this House, the<br />

amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not<br />

agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellants be taxed in accordance with<br />

the Access to Justice Act 1999.<br />

3. South Bucks District Council (Respondents) v. Coates and others (Petitioners)—The petition of<br />

Mike Coates, Patrick Cash, Mike Summers and Hugh Doherty praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Bagdanavicius (FC)<br />

and another (Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee.<br />

5. In re Sinn Fein (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the<br />

time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be<br />

extended to 26th January (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented;<br />

and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Autologic Holdings plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th<br />

February (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

7. BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th<br />

February (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

8. The Future Network plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th<br />

February (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.


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9. Perkins Engines Company Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th<br />

February (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

10. HJ Heinz Company Inc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th<br />

February (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

11. British Telecommunications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging<br />

the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th<br />

February (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

12. Concord Trust (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Law Debenture Trust Corporation<br />

plc (Original Respondents and Cross-appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that<br />

the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might<br />

be extended to 19th January (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was<br />

presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

13. Instruments withdrawn—The following instruments, laid before the House on 9th December 2004,<br />

were withdrawn:<br />

1. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (River Tweed) Order 2005;<br />

2. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order<br />

2005.<br />

14. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

International Development—Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and Bolivia<br />

concerning Development Assistance and the Status of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> Department for<br />

International Development in Bolivia, together with an Explanatory Memorandum. (6445)<br />

15. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Companies Act 1985 (Operating and Financial Review and Directors’ Report etc.)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Companies Act 1985, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum.<br />

16. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Social Security (Incapacity Benefit Work-focused Interviews) Amendment Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992; (3)<br />

2. National Health Service (General Medical Services Contracts) (Personal Medical<br />

Services Agreements) and (Pharmaceutical Services) (Amendment) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; (28)<br />

3. Supply of Extended Warranties on Domestic Electrical Goods Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Fair Trading Act 1973. (37)<br />

17. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Wakefield Education Action Zone, laid under the School<br />

Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of the Comptroller and<br />

Auditor General;<br />

2. Code of Practice for the National Intelligence Model, laid under the Police Act 1996.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

18. Human Rights—The following reports of the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed:<br />

Minutes of proceedings for Session 2003–04; (HL Paper 25)<br />

4th Report, Scrutiny of Bills: Progress Report, together with appendices. (HL Paper 26)


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Public Business<br />

19. Management of OVenders and Sentencing Bill [hl]—A bill to make further provision relating to<br />

the management of oVenders, the functions of local probation boards and prisons; to provide<br />

for the appointment and functions of Her Majesty’s Commissioner for OVender Management<br />

and Prisons; to make provision about fines and other matters relating to sentencing; to make<br />

provision for the electronic monitoring of persons on bail; and for connected purposes was<br />

presented by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 16)<br />

20. Management of OVenders and Sentencing Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes<br />

relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 16-EN)<br />

21. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debate on<br />

the motion in the name of the Lord Blackwell set down for today shall be limited to 5 hours<br />

and that in the name of the Lord Oxburgh to 2 hours; the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Mental Capacity Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that it be an instruction<br />

to the Committee of the Whole House to which the Mental Capacity Bill has been committed<br />

that they consider the bill in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 9 Clauses 60 to 62<br />

Schedule 1 Schedules 4 and 5<br />

Clauses 10 to 18 Clause 63<br />

Schedule 2 Schedules 6 and 7<br />

Clauses 19 to 59 Clauses 64 and 65;<br />

Schedule 3<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Low-tax economy (5-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Blackwell that there be laid before<br />

the House papers relating to the case for a low-tax economy; after debate, the motion was (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

24. Radioactive Waste Management (S&T Report) (2-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Oxburgh that there be laid before the House papers relating to the Report from the Select<br />

Committee on Science and Technology, Radioactive Waste Management (5th Report, Session<br />

2003–04, HL Paper 200) and to the timescale for establishing a long-term strategy for the<br />

management of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>’s radioactive waste; after debate, the motion was (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

The House was adjourned at a quarter past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.<br />

Thursday 13th January 2005<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.


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Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newcastle, Bp.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

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Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Worcester.<br />

1. Hereditary Peers’ By-election—The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s notified the House that the Earl of<br />

Glasgow had been elected in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 10 (Hereditary<br />

peers: by-elections) to fill the vacancy created by the death of the Earl Russell among the peers<br />

excepted from section 1 of the House of Lords Act 1999.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Abumujor (Petitioner) v. Kingston University (Respondents)—The petition of Charles Abumujor<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been<br />

waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 16th December).<br />

3. Mensah (Petitioner) v. Jones (Respondent)—The petition of Matthew Yeboah Mensah praying for<br />

leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the<br />

Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee (lodged 17th December).<br />

4. St Leger-Davey (by her litigation friend) (Petitioner) and another v. First Secretary of State for the<br />

Environment and others (Respondents)—The petition of Phoebe St Leger-Davey praying for<br />

leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 5th January).<br />

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Hooper and others (FC)<br />

and another (Appellants)—The certificate of public funding of Andrew Walker Martin was<br />

cancelled.<br />

6. R (on the application of Jones (FC) and others (FC)) (Respondents) v. Ceredigion County Council<br />

(Appellants) (Civil Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The respondents’<br />

certificates of public funding were lodged.


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7. Appeal Committee—The 15th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Younger Homes (Northern) Limited (Petitioners) v. First Secretary of State and others<br />

(Respondents) and others—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty<br />

to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted,<br />

that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.<br />

In re J (a child)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by<br />

27th January.<br />

R (on the application of C (FC) and another (FC)) (children acting through their father and<br />

litigation friend) (Petitioners) v. Secretary of State for the Foreign and Commonwealth OYce<br />

(Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioners be taxed in<br />

accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply<br />

for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation<br />

Scheme) (Rights of Appeal) Regulations 2005, laid under the Pensions Appeal Tribunals<br />

Act 1943, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Extradition Act 2003 (Amendment to Designations) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Extradition Act 2003, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Licensing Act 2003 (Transitional Provisions) Order 2005— (40)<br />

(ii) Licensing Act 2003 (Personal licences) Regulations 2005— (41)<br />

(iii) Licensing Act 2003 (Premises licences and club premises certificates) Regulations<br />

2005— (42)<br />

(iv) Licensing Act 2003 (Licensing authority’s register) (other information) Regulations<br />

2005— (43)<br />

(v) Licensing Act 2003 (Hearings) Regulations 2005— (44)<br />

laid under the Licensing Act 2003;<br />

2. Draft Charities (National Trust) Order 2005, laid under the Charities Act 1993, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum. (—)<br />

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2000–01 of the Northern Ireland Social Security Agency Social Fund, laid<br />

under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Nursing and Midwifery Council, laid under the Nursing and<br />

Midwifery Order 2001;<br />

3. Report for 2003–04 of the England Marketing Advisory Board, laid under the<br />

Development of Tourism Act 1969.<br />

Public Business<br />

11. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments<br />

were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.<br />

12. Eurofighter programme—The Lord Craig of Radley asked Her Majesty’s Government what<br />

progress has been made on the Typhoon (Eurofighter) programme and the aircraft’s<br />

introduction into service with the Royal Air Force; after debate, the question was answered<br />

by the Lord Bach.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

13. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an<br />

amendment was disagreed to (see division list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the<br />

Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 62<br />

stood part.<br />

The House was adjourned at six minutes past six o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.


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APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at a quarter past three o’clock.<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was<br />

adjourned after amendment 31.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at five minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

DIVISION<br />

EDUCATION BILL [hl]<br />

It was moved by the Lord Hanningfield, after Clause 5, to insert the new Clause (Reducing burden of<br />

inspection on schools); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee<br />

divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 83<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 126<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

[Teller]<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.


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Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Friday 14th January 2005<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

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Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newcastle, Bp.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Winchester, Bp.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Worcester.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Three Rivers District Council and others (Respondents) v. Governor and Company of the Bank<br />

of England (Appellants)—Further to the Judgment of the House of 11th November 2004<br />

(57th Report from the Appellate Committee, [2004] UKHL 48), it was ordered that the<br />

respondents do pay to the appellants 90 per cent of the appellants’ costs in this House,<br />

including the costs of dealing with the Interveners’ submissions, the whole of the appellants’<br />

costs in the Court of Appeal, and the costs incurred by the appellants as a result of the steps<br />

they took to comply with the order of Mr Justice Tomlinson made in the High Court of Justice<br />

(Queen’s Bench Division) (Commercial Court) on 10th November 2003 (which order has been<br />

set aside by this House); and it was further ordered that the amount of the appellants’ costs<br />

in this House be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties, and<br />

that the amount of the appellants’ costs in the Court of Appeal and below if not agreed be<br />

determined by a Costs Judge.<br />

2. Harris (Petitioner) v. Harris (Respondent)—The petition of Mark Dean Harris praying for leave to<br />

appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal<br />

Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

Papers<br />

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Education (Co-ordination of Admission Arrangements) (Primary Schools) (England)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act<br />

1998; (2)<br />

2. (i) Asylum Seekers (Reception Conditions) Regulations 2005— (7)<br />

(ii) Asylum Support (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (11)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

3. Extradition Act 2003 (Parties to International Conventions) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Extradition Act 2003; (46)<br />

4. South-west Territorial Waters (Prohibition of Pair Trawling) (Amendment) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967. (49)


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4. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Air Publication 1269A—Assessment of Medical Fitness (3rd Edition) Amendment List 26,<br />

laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917.<br />

Public Business<br />

5. Renewable Energy Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Redesdale that the bill be now read a<br />

second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a<br />

Committee of the Whole House.<br />

6. Succession to the Crown Bill [hl]—The Queen’s consent was signified; then it was moved by the<br />

Lord Dubs that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was (by leave of<br />

the House) withdrawn; then the bill was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

7. Caribbean banana growers—The Lord Newby asked Her Majesty’s Government what action they<br />

plan to take to safeguard the interests of Caribbean banana growers; after debate, the question<br />

was answered by the Lord Evans of Temple Guiting.<br />

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes before three o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 17th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.


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Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.


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Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of St Albans.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) v. K (Petitioner)—The petition of K<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 6th<br />

January).<br />

2. Bultitude (Petitioner) v. Law Society (Respondents)—The petition of David Bultitude praying for<br />

leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. R (on the application of X) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of West Midlands Police<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of X praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

4. Barker (Respondent) v. Saint Gobain Pipelines plc (Appellants)—<br />

5. Patterson (son and executor of the estate of J Patterson (deceased)) (Respondent) v. Smiths Dock<br />

Limited (Appellants) and others—<br />

6. Murray (widow and executrix of the estate of John Lawrence Murray (deceased)) (Respondent) v.<br />

British Shipbuilders (Hydrodynamics) Limited (Appellants) and others and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

7. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Appellant) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Respondents)—<br />

8. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Respondent) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix<br />

and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 7th February (the agents for the<br />

respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

9. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 9th Report:<br />

Corbett (Petitioner) v. Bond Pearce (a firm) (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused;<br />

that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d);<br />

and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

10. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Foreign and Commonwealth OYce—Departmental Minute concerning the gifting of body<br />

armour to Indonesia. (—)<br />

11. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Amendments to Schedule 2) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Private Security Industry Act 2001, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.


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12. Regulatory Reform—The following orders were laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

1. Draft Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature Conservation Committee) Order 2005, together<br />

with a Statement by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs;<br />

2. Draft Regulatory Reform (Trading Stamps) Order 2005, together with a Statement by the<br />

Department for Trade and Industry.<br />

13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Education (Student Support) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (Amendment) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Teaching and Higher Education Act 1998; (5)<br />

2. Social Security (Claims and Payments and Payments on account, Overpayments and<br />

Recovery) Amendment Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security Administration<br />

Act 1992; (34)<br />

3. Immigration (European Economic Area) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

European Communities Act 1972; (47)<br />

4. Employment (Northern Ireland) Order 2003 (Dispute Resolution) Regulations<br />

(Northern Ireland) 2004, laid under the Employment (Northern Ireland) Order 2003.<br />

(—)<br />

14. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Arts Council of Wales, laid under the National<br />

Lottery etc. Act 1993, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General.<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Defence—It was moved by the Lord Bach that this House takes note of developments in defence;<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Criminal trials—The Lord Thomas of Gresford asked Her Majesty’s Government, further to the<br />

Written Statement by the Attorney General on 20th December 2004 (WS 104–105), whether<br />

they propose to change the impartial role of prosecuting counsel, in respect of both the<br />

introduction of the previous convictions of a defendant in a criminal trial and the interviewing<br />

of prosecution witnesses; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Goldsmith.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was<br />

adjourned after amendment 61.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty minutes before eight o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 18th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.


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Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hutton, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

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McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of St Albans.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. 7 Strathray Gardens Limited (Petitioners) v. Pointstar Shipping & Finance Limited and others<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of 7 Strathray Gardens Limited praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 12th January).


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2. In re McClean (Original Respondent and Cross-appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to<br />

an Appellate Committee.<br />

Papers<br />

3. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 17th January, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature Conservation Committee) Order 2005.<br />

4. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Nuclear Energy—Iran’s Nuclear Programme: A Collection of Documents; (6443)<br />

2. Children—Parental Separation: Children’s Needs and Parents’ Responsibilities—Next<br />

Steps: Government proposals. (6452)<br />

5. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Asylum (Designated States) Order 2005, laid under the Nationality, Immigration<br />

and Asylum Act 2002, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Scotland Act 1998, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) European Communities (Recognition of Professional Qualifications) (First General<br />

System) Regulations 2005— (18)<br />

(ii) Blood Safety and Quality Regulations 2005— (50)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

2. Enterprise Act 2002 (Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993) (Consequential<br />

Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Enterprise Act 2002; (53)<br />

3. Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Collective Investment Schemes) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000. (57)<br />

7. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Memorandum of Understanding between the Gas and Electricity Markets Authority and the<br />

Gas and Electricity Consumer Council, laid under the Utilities Act 2000.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

8. European Union—The First Report from the Select Committee, Procedural Rights in Criminal<br />

Proceedings, was made and ordered to be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence. (HL<br />

Paper 28)<br />

9. Statutory Instruments—The 5th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Companies Act 1985 (Operating and Financial Review and Directors’ Report etc.)<br />

Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Communications Data) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Directed Surveillance and Covert Human<br />

Intelligence Sources) (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 29)<br />

10. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following reports from the Select Committee were made<br />

and ordered to be printed:<br />

5th Report, on the following negative instrument:<br />

Local Government Pension Scheme (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2004; (HL<br />

Paper 27)<br />

6th Report, on the following negative instrument:<br />

Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment Scheme (Set-aside) (England) Regulations<br />

2004. (HL Paper 30)


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Public Business<br />

11. TraYc Wardens and Parking Attendants Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision about traYc wardens<br />

and parking attendants was presented by the Lord Lucas, read a first time and ordered to be<br />

printed. (HL Bill 17)<br />

12. Borough Freedom (Family Succession) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and<br />

sent to the Commons.<br />

13. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments<br />

were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the<br />

House was resumed.<br />

14. <strong>United</strong> Nations—The Baroness Cox asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they will review<br />

the role and functioning of the <strong>United</strong> Nations and its agencies; after debate, the question was<br />

answered by the Baroness Crawley.<br />

15. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments<br />

were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the<br />

House was resumed after clause 90 stood part.<br />

The House was adjourned at five minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Inquiries Bill [hl]—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after clause 9<br />

stood part.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at sixteen minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 19th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.


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Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hutton, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

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Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

1. Lord Patten of Barnes—The Right Honourable Christopher Francis Patten, CH, having been<br />

created Baron Patten of Barnes, of Barnes in the London Borough of Richmond, for life by<br />

Letters Patent dated 11th January 2005 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord<br />

Hurd of Westwell and the Lord Carrington, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and<br />

Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Gravgaard (Petitioner) v. Aldridge & Brownlee (a firm) (Respondents)—The petition of Susan<br />

Mary Gravgaard praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 10th January).<br />

3. Lincoln National Life Insurance Company (Petitioners) v. Sun Life Assurance Company of<br />

Canada and others (Respondents)—The petition of Lincoln National Life Insurance<br />

Company praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee<br />

(lodged 10th January).<br />

4. R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs (Respondent) and others (Petitioners)—The petition<br />

of Covent Garden Market Authority praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred<br />

to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Concord Trust (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Law Debenture Trust Corporation<br />

plc (Original Respondents and Cross-appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and<br />

referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

6. West Bromwich Building Society (Appellants) v. Wilkinson and another (Respondents)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

7. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellant<br />

praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for<br />

hearing might be extended to 16th February (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


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Papers<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Standards in Public Life—Getting the Balance Right, Implementing Standards of<br />

Conduct in Public Life; (6407)<br />

2. Marshall Aid—Report for the year ending 30th September 2004 of the Marshall Aid<br />

Commemoration Commission; (6418)<br />

3. Environment—Revised Explanatory Memorandum on the Convention on Access to<br />

Information, Public Participation in Decision-making and Access to Justice in<br />

Environmental Matters (Cm 4736); (—)<br />

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Social Security Pensions (Home Responsibilities) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (48)<br />

2. Transport for London (Consequential Provisions) Order 2005, laid under the Greater<br />

London Authority Act 1999; (56)<br />

3. Water Industry (Charges) (Vulnerable Groups) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the Water Industry Act 1991. (59)<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

10. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following report from the Select Committee was<br />

made and ordered to be printed:<br />

6th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Mental Capacity Bill;<br />

Charities Bill [hl];<br />

Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Bill;<br />

Renewable Energy Bill [hl];<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—Government response. (HL Paper 31)<br />

Public Business<br />

11. Mathematics teaching (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Lord Peston that there be laid<br />

before the House papers relating to the state of mathematics teaching in schools; after debate,<br />

the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

12. Electricity supply (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Lord Tombs that there be laid before<br />

the House papers relating to the problems in the electricity supply industry created by the<br />

absence of a strategic decision mechanism; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the<br />

House) withdrawn.<br />

13. Inquiries Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee without amendment.<br />

14. H M Inspector of Prisons—The Baroness Stern asked Her Majesty’s Government what steps they<br />

are taking to ensure the independence and integrity of H M Inspector of Prisons in the light<br />

of the proposed consultation on merging criminal justice inspectorates; after debate, the<br />

question was answered by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal.<br />

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX 1<br />

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Great Britain and<br />

Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth<br />

Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to<br />

whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge<br />

and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us<br />

enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Counsellor<br />

Christopher Francis Patten Member of Our Order of the Companions of Honour to the state degree<br />

style dignity title and honour of Baron Patten of Barnes of Barnes in Our London Borough of<br />

Richmond<br />

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style<br />

dignity title and honour of Baron Patten of Barnes to have and to hold unto him for his life<br />

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and<br />

possess a seat place and voice in the <strong>Parliament</strong>s and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs<br />

and successors within Our <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use


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all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of<br />

right belonging which Barons of Our <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do<br />

at present use and enjoy<br />

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster<br />

the eleventh day of January in the fifty-third year of Our Reign<br />

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL<br />

APPENDIX 2<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Inquiries Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be reported<br />

without amendment.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at six minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Thursday 20th January 2005<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

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Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mishcon, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

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Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of St Albans.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Department for Work and Pensions (Respondents) v. Webley (Petitioner)—The petition of Atasha<br />

Webley praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

2. R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs (Petitioner) and others—The petition of the Secretary<br />

of State for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs praying for leave to appeal was presented<br />

and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. London Borough of Newham (Respondents) v. Kibata (FC) (Petitioner)—The petition of Armani<br />

Kibata praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order<br />

II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate<br />

of public funding was lodged.<br />

4. College of Estate Management (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 2nd<br />

March (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered<br />

as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Defence—Departmental Minute from the Ministry of Defence, concerning the gifting of Non-<br />

Lethal Military Equipment to Nepal. (—)<br />

6. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Continuance of Part VII) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Terrorism Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum;<br />

3. Draft Gender Recognition (Approved Countries and Territories) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Gender Recognition Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Company Directors Disqualification (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum.<br />

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

(i) Licensing Act 2003 (Hearings) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (78)<br />

(ii) Licensing Act 2003 (Fees) Regulations 2005— (79)<br />

(iii) Licensing Act 2003 (Transitional conversions fees) Order 2005— (80)<br />

laid under the Licensing Act 2003.<br />

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report on the Operation in 2004 of the Terrorism Act 2000, laid under that Act;<br />

2. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Learning and Skills Council, laid under the<br />

Learning and Skills Act 2000.


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Select Committee Report<br />

9. Science and Technology—The First Report from the Select Committee, Science and Treaties:<br />

Follow-up, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 32)<br />

Public Business<br />

10. Charities Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal that the bill be now read a<br />

second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Grand<br />

Committee.<br />

11. EU Development Aid (EUC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Bowness that this House takes<br />

note of the Report of the European Union Committee on EU Development Aid in Transition<br />

(12th Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 75); after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

12. EU Security Strategy (EUC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Bowness that this House takes<br />

note of the Report of the European Union Committee on EU Security Strategy (31st Report,<br />

Session 2003–04, HL Paper 180); the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee without<br />

amendment.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-two minutes past six o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at a quarter past three o’clock.<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was ordered that the<br />

bill be reported without amendment.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at a quarter past six o’clock.<br />

Monday 24th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

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Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.


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St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Manchester.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia was<br />

presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and<br />

appendix thereto be lodged on or before 7th March.<br />

2. Mitchell and others (Respondents) v. Al-Dali and others and Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia) (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of<br />

the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 7th March.<br />

3. Currey (Petitioner) v. Currey (Respondent)—The petition of Charles Alistair Currey praying for<br />

leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 5th January).<br />

4. Al Fayed (Petitioner) and another and others (Petitioners) v. Commissioner of Police of the<br />

Metropolis and others (Respondents)—The petition of Mohamed Al Fayed, John<br />

Macnamara, Paul Handley-Greaves, Colin Dalman and John Allen praying for leave to<br />

appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 5th January).<br />

5. Hockenjos (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Petitioner)—The petition<br />

of the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 21st January).<br />

6. R (on the application of Bushell and others) (Respondents) v. Newcastle upon Tyne Licensing<br />

Justices and others (Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an<br />

Appellate Committee.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The 16th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

London Diocesan Fund and others and others (Respondents) v. Avonridge Property<br />

Company Limited (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal<br />

be lodged by 7th February.<br />

Pour (FC) (Petitioner) v. Lord Mayor and Citizens of the City of Westminster<br />

(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in<br />

accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply<br />

for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Feld (FC) (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Barnet (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be<br />

refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act<br />

1999; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.


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Papers<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the date shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Criminal Justice—Treaty between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and Mexico on the Enforcement<br />

of Criminal Sentences, together with an Explanatory Memorandum; (21st January)<br />

(6453)<br />

2. Housing—Sustainable Communities: Homes for All: Government Proposals. (24th<br />

January) (6424)<br />

9. Statutory Instrument (Standing Order 71)—The following negative instrument, having been laid<br />

before the House on 21st January, was ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Education (School Performance Information) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Education Act 1996. (51)<br />

10. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Insolvency (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

11. Regulatory Reform—The following order was laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature Conservation Committee) Order 2005, together with<br />

a Statement by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs.<br />

12. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Education (School Attendance Targets) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (58)<br />

2. Salaries (Comptroller and Auditor General) Order (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid under<br />

the Northern Ireland Act 2000. (—)<br />

13. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Accounts for the period April 2004-November 2004 of the Dudley Education Action Zone,<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General.<br />

Private Business<br />

14. Liverpool City Council (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [hl]—<br />

15. London Local Authorities Bill [hl]—<br />

16. London Local Authorities (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [hl]—<br />

The bills were presented and read a first time.<br />

Public Business<br />

17. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments<br />

were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.<br />

18. Fire and Rescue Services (National Framework) (England) Order 2004—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Hanham that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that the<br />

Order, laid before the House on 14th December 2004, be annulled (S.I. 2004/3217); after<br />

debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

19. Education Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an<br />

amendment was disagreed to (see division list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the<br />

Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was<br />

reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 18)<br />

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


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DIVISION<br />

EDUCATION BILL [HL]<br />

It was moved by the Lord Hanningfield, after Clause 100, to insert the new Clause (Annual parents’<br />

meeting); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 30<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 70<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Tuesday 25th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.


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2005<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

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Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Manchester.<br />

1. Oath—Patrick Robin Archibald Earl of Glasgow, having received a Writ of Summons in<br />

accordance with Standing Order 10 (Hereditary peers: by-elections) following the death of the<br />

Earl Russell, took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Lewin (Northamptonshire County Council Trading Standards Service) (Petitioner) v. Purity Soft<br />

Drinks Limited (Respondents)—The petition of Bryan Roy Lewin praying for leave to appeal<br />

in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an<br />

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3. Ali (Respondent) v. Headteacher and Governors of Lord Grey School (Appellants)—The petition<br />

of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting<br />

down the cause for hearing might be extended to 8th March (the agents for the respondent<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

4. Horton (Appellant) v. Sadler and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying that<br />

the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might<br />

be extended to 8th March (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented;<br />

and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

5. Appeal Committee—The 17th Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they had<br />

met and had heard Counsel; the report was agreed to and the following Order was made—<br />

Sutradhar (Petitioner) v. Natural Environment Research Council (Respondents)—That leave<br />

to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 8th February.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 18th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Kohanzad (Petitioner) v. Derbyshire Police Authority (Respondents)—That leave to appeal<br />

be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

R (on the application of Gillan (FC) and another (FC)) (Petitioners) v. Commissioner of Police<br />

for the Metropolis and another (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the<br />

petition of appeal be lodged by 8th February.<br />

R (on the application of PD) (Petitioner) v. West Midlands & North West Mental Health<br />

Review Tribunal (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at<br />

liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is<br />

granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed<br />

between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

7. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Defence—Departmental Minute from the Ministry of Defence concerning the gifting of<br />

military equipment to the Interim Iraqi Government. (—)<br />

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

(i) Draft Adults with Incapacity (Scotland) Act 2000 (Consequential Modifications)<br />

(England, Wales and Northern Ireland) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) (No. 2) Order 2005, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(iii) Draft Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004<br />

(Consequential Modifications) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Scotland Act 1998.<br />

9. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on<br />

the Table:<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Winding Up, Deficiency on Winding Up and Transfer<br />

Values) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Pension Schemes Act 1993. (72)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

10. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

7th Report, on the following negative instruments:<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Transitional provisions) Order 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Personal licences) Regulations 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Premises licences and club premises certificates) Regulations 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Licensing authority’s register) (other information) Regulations 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Hearings) Regulations 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Hearings) (Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Fees) Regulations 2005;<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Transitional conversion fees) Regulations 2005. (HL Paper 33)


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11. Statutory Instruments—The 6th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Asylum (Designated States) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Extradition Act 2003 (Amendment to Designations) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation<br />

Scheme) (Rights of Appeal) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Amendments to Schedule 2) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order<br />

2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 34)<br />

Public Business<br />

12. Gambling Bill—A bill to make provision about gambling was brought from the Commons, read<br />

a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 19)<br />

13. Gambling Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill<br />

19-EN)<br />

14. Charities Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Bassam of Brighton, on behalf of the Baroness<br />

Scotland of Asthal, that it be an instruction to the Grand Committee to which the Charities<br />

Bill [hl] has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 6 Clauses 13 to 32<br />

Schedules 1 and 2 Schedule 6<br />

Clauses 7 and 8 Clauses 33 to 69<br />

Schedules 3 and 4 Schedules 7 to 9<br />

Clauses 9 to 12 Clauses 70 to 72;<br />

Schedule 5<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Mental Capacity Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.<br />

16. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee<br />

with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 20)<br />

17. A27—The Lord Baker of Dorking asked Her Majesty’s Government what proposals they have to<br />

improve the A27 between Chichester and Eastbourne; after debate, the question was answered<br />

by the Lord Davies of Oldham.<br />

18. Mental Capacity Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were<br />

agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 6 stood part.<br />

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were<br />

agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be reported with amendments.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at eighteen minutes before eight o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 26th January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

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Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

HoVmann, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

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Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strange, B.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

1. Lord Aberdare—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that Lord Aberdare, a member of the<br />

House, had died on 23rd January 2005.


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Judicial Business<br />

2. Regina v. Immigration OYcer at Prague Airport and another (Respondents) ex parte European<br />

Roma Rights Centre and another (FC) and another and others (FC) (Appellants)—Further<br />

to the Judgment of the House of 9th December 2004 (7th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee, [2004] UKHL 55), it was ordered that the respondents do pay to the appellants<br />

50 per cent of the appellants’ costs in this House and below; and it was further ordered that<br />

the amount of the appellants’ costs in this House be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s<br />

if not agreed between the parties, and that the amount of the appellants’ costs in the Court of<br />

Appeal and below if not agreed between the parties be determined by a Costs Judge.<br />

3. Scribes West Limited (Petitioners) v. Anstalt and others (Respondents)—The petition of Scribes<br />

West Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee<br />

(lodged 20th January).<br />

4. Appeal Committee—The 19th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Reynolds (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—That the petition of the Child Poverty Action Group that they might be heard<br />

or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be allowed to the extent that they may lodge written<br />

submissions only.<br />

5. Appeal Committee—The 20th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Vakante (Petitioner) v. Addey and Stanhope School and others (Respondents)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Petitioners)—<br />

That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 9th February next.<br />

Smith (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and another (Respondents)—<br />

That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 9th February next.<br />

N (Kenya) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—<br />

That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with<br />

the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in<br />

accordance with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be<br />

certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Finance—Treasury Minutes on the Forty-fourth to Forty-ninth Reports from the<br />

Committee of Public Accounts 2003-04; (6441)<br />

2. Treaty Series—Third Supplementary List of Ratifications, Accessions, Withdrawals,<br />

Etc., for 2004. (6454)<br />

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers’ Compensation) (Payment of Claims)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers’<br />

Compensation) Act 1979, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. Draft Gangmasters (Licensing Authority) Regulations 2005, laid under the Gangmasters<br />

(Licensing) Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Data Protection (Subject Access Modification) (Social Work) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Data Protection Act 1998, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum;<br />

5. Draft Drainage (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under the Northern<br />

Ireland Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

8. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on<br />

the Table:<br />

Education (Student Support) Regulations 2005, laid under the Teaching and Higher<br />

Education Act 1998. (52)


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9. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report for 2003-04 of HM Chief Inspector of Prisons for England and Wales, laid under the<br />

Prisons Act 1952.<br />

Public Business<br />

10. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos), that the debate on the motion in the name of the Baroness Whitaker set<br />

down for today shall be limited to 3 hours and that in the name of the Lord Hunt of Kings<br />

Heath to 3° hours; the motion was agreed to.<br />

11. Poverty in developing countries (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Whitaker that<br />

there be laid before the House papers relating to the Government’s policies to reduce poverty<br />

in developing countries; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

12. House of Lords reform (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath that<br />

there be laid before the House papers relating to the report of the Labour Peers’ Working<br />

Group on reform of the powers, procedures and conventions of the House of Lords; after<br />

debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashdown of Norton-sub-<br />

Hamdon, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Thursday 27th January 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

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Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

HoVmann, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

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Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Winchester, Bp.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Manchester.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Parole Board (Respondents) ex parte Smith (FC) (Appellant)—<br />

2. Regina v. Parole Board (Respondents) ex parte West (FC) (Appellant)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 9th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

appeal of Smith be allowed and the Order of the Court of Appeal of 31st July 2003 set aside;<br />

that the appeal of West be allowed and the Order of the Court of Appeal of 14th November<br />

2002 and also the order of Mr Justice Turner of 26th April 2002 be set aside except for the<br />

provision in the two orders for a detailed Community Legal Service Funding assessment; that<br />

in both appeals it be declared that “the Parole Board breached its duty of procedural fairness<br />

owed to the Appellant by failing to oVer him an oral hearing of his representations against<br />

revocation of his licence and was accordingly in breach of Article 5 (4) of the European<br />

Convention on Human Rights”; that in the appeal of Smith the respondents do pay to the<br />

appellant his costs here and below; and that the question of costs in the appeal of West be<br />

adjourned in order that the parties may make written submissions within 14 days, the amount<br />

of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed<br />

between the parties; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed in accordance<br />

with the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2005] UKHL 1<br />

3. Gregg (FC) (Appellant) v. Scott (Respondent)—It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead,<br />

That the 10th Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to.<br />

It was ordered and adjudged that the Order appealed from be aYrmed and the appeal<br />

dismissed with costs; and that the amounts thereof, if any, to be paid by the appellant and to<br />

be paid out of the Community Legal Service Fund be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s<br />

in accordance with section 11 of the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2005] UKHL 2<br />

4. Jackson and another (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Royal Bank of Scotland<br />

(Original Respondents and Cross-appellants)—It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of<br />

Birkenhead, That the 11th Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion<br />

was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed and the cross-appeal<br />

dismissed; that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 28th June 2000 be set aside and the Order<br />

of His Honour Judge Kershaw QC in the High Court, Queen’s Bench Division, Mercantile<br />

List (Liverpool) of 24th September 1998 restored so far as regards the principal sum to be<br />

awarded to the claimants (the appellants in this House) as damages; that the rate of interest<br />

to be applied to that award of damages be determined by agreement between the parties; that<br />

the exchange rate to be applied to convert the award from US Dollars to Pounds Sterling once<br />

the final figure has been established also be determined by agreement between the parties; and<br />

that the question of costs be adjourned in order that the parties may make written submissions<br />

within 14 days. [2005] UKHL 3<br />

5. Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth Court (Respondents) ex parte D (a minor) (by his mother and<br />

litigation friend) (FC) (Appellant) (Criminal Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of<br />

Justice)—


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2005<br />

6. Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth Court (Respondents) ex parte Director of Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent) (G (by his mother and litigation friend) (FC) (Appellant) (Interested Party))<br />

(Criminal Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 12th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

appeal of D and the appeal of G be dismissed; that the two Orders of the Divisional Court of<br />

4th February 2003 be aYrmed; that the certified question be answered in the aYrmative; and<br />

that the costs of the appellants be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999.<br />

[2005] UKHL 4<br />

7. Trennery (Respondent) v. West (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Appellant) and four other<br />

actions—It was moved by the Lord HoVmann, on behalf of the Lord Steyn, That the 13th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered<br />

and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 18th December 2003 be set aside and<br />

the Order of Mr Justice Peter Smith in the High Court of Justice, Chancery Division of 1st<br />

April 2003 restored; that the appellants do pay to the respondents their costs in this House and<br />

that the respondents do pay to the appellants their costs in the Court of Appeal, the amount<br />

of such costs in this House to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between<br />

the parties. [2005] UKHL 5<br />

8. In re J (a child) (England)—The appeal of the mother was presented and it was ordered that in<br />

accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before<br />

10th March.<br />

9. Burton (Her Majesty’s Collector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Mellham Limited (Appellants)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

10. Massey and another (Appellants) v. Boulden and another (Respondents)—The petition of the<br />

appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 14th March (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

11. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Housing—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Select Committee<br />

on the OYce of the Deputy Prime Minister on Gypsy and Traveller Sites. (6465)<br />

12. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (Continuance in force of Sections 21<br />

to 23) Order 2005, laid under the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. (i) Code of Audit Practice for Local NHS bodies (2005), together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Code of Audit Practice for local government bodies (2005), together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Audit Commission Act 1998.<br />

13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Merchant Shipping (Prevention of Pollution) (Drilling Rigs and Other Platforms) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Railways and Transport Safety Act 2003; (74)<br />

2. Fees for Assessment of Active Substances (Third Stage Review) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the European Communities Act 1972. (117)<br />

14. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Performance Report for Each English Waste Authority in Meeting their Recycling<br />

Requirements, laid under the Household Waste Recycling Act 2003.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

15. Human Rights—The 5th Report of the Joint Committee, Identity Cards Bill, together with an<br />

appendix, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 35)


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Private Business<br />

16. Liverpool City Council (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [hl]—<br />

17. London Local Authorities (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [hl]—<br />

It was reported by the Chairman of Committees, pursuant to Private Business Standing Order<br />

91 (Special circumstances), that he had received reports on the bills from Miss Melanie<br />

Johnson MP, <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Under-Secretary of State for Public Health, in respect of the<br />

Promoters’ assessment of the compatibility of the bill’s proposals with the European<br />

Convention on Human Rights which stated the following: “I believe the promoters have<br />

undertaken such an assessment. However, I believe that in the following respect only the Bill<br />

may not be compatible with Convention rights. I see no need to dispute their other<br />

conclusions. The exclusion from the prohibition on smoking in places of work that applies for<br />

domestic premises in Clause 4 (meaning of “place of work”) is drawn narrowly. For example,<br />

long term residential accommodation which is the sole home of an individual may fall outside<br />

the definition of “domestic premises” in Clause 4(2), even where it is the individual’s sole home<br />

and only occasionally a place of work. It follows that there might be circumstances in which<br />

a total prohibition on smoking tobacco in such accommodation could constitute a<br />

disproportionate interference with the right to respect for private and family life within the<br />

meaning of Article 8 of the Convention, having regard to the fact that smoking tobacco is a<br />

legal activity. I consider that the Opinion on compliance with Convention rights submitted by<br />

the promoters does not address this issue suYciently and that paragraphs 7 and 16 of that<br />

Opinion appear to be inconsistent. I am unable to conclude that the Bill is compatible with the<br />

Convention”.<br />

18. London Local Authorities Bill [hl]—It was reported by the Chairman of Committees, pursuant to<br />

Private Business Standing Order 91 (Special circumstances), that he had received a report on<br />

the bill from Mr Keith Hill MP, Minister for Housing & Planning and Minister for London,<br />

stating that, in the Minister’s opinion, the promoters have failed to undertake an adequate<br />

assessment of the compatibility of their proposals with the European Convention on Human<br />

Rights in respect of clause 78(1), clauses 117 to 119 and clause 120 and giving his reasons for<br />

this opinion. Save for these clauses, he considers that the promoters have undertaken a full<br />

assessment of the compatibility of their proposals with the European Convention on Human<br />

Rights and sees no need to dispute their conclusions.<br />

Public Business<br />

19. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—A bill to make provision for the appointment of<br />

Commissioners to exercise functions presently vested in the Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue and the Commissioners of Customs and Excise; for the establishment of a Revenue<br />

and Customs Prosecutions OYce; and for connected purposes was brought from the<br />

Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 21)<br />

20. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes<br />

relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 21-EN)<br />

21. Mental Capacity Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was<br />

resumed.<br />

22. Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies (Disapplication) (England) Order 2005—It was moved by<br />

the Lord Rooker that the draft Order laid before the House on 10th January be approved;<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Local Authorities (Contracting Out of BID Levy Billing, Collection and Enforcement Functions)<br />

Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord Rooker that the draft Order laid before the House on<br />

15th December 2004 be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

24. Representation of the People (Variation of Limits of Candidates’ Election Expenses) (City of<br />

London) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Rooker that the draft Order laid before the<br />

House on 9th December 2004 be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

25. Mental Capacity Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were<br />

agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 25 stood part.<br />

26. Railways Bill—A bill to amend the law relating to the provision and regulation of railway services;<br />

and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to<br />

be printed. (HL Bill 22)


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27. Railways Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill<br />

22-EN)<br />

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past seven o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 31st January 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.


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Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.<br />

1. Lord Kinnock—The Right Honourable Neil Gordon Kinnock, having been created Baron<br />

Kinnock, of Bedwellty in the County of Gwent, for life by Letters Patent dated 28th January<br />

2005, was introduced between the Baroness Amos and the Baroness Royall of Blaisdon, the<br />

Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and made and<br />

subscribed the solemn aYrmation pursuant to statute (see Appendix 1).


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Judicial Business<br />

2. Birmingham City Council (Respondents) v. Doherty (FC) (Petitioner) and others—The petition of<br />

William Doherty praying for leave for an appeal to be brought direct from the High Court of<br />

Justice in accordance with Part II of the Administration of Justice Act 1969 was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged<br />

(lodged 17th January).<br />

3. R v. Bradley (Petitioner)—The petition of David Benjamin Bradley praying for leave to appeal in<br />

accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 27th January).<br />

4. In re Sinn Fein (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the<br />

time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be<br />

extended to 9th March next (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented;<br />

and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Housing—Sustainable Communities—People, Places and Prosperity: Government Proposals.<br />

(6425)<br />

6. Statutory Instrument (Standing Order 71)—The following negative instrument, having been laid<br />

before the House on 28th January, was ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Registration of Political Parties (Prohibited Words and Expressions) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000. (147)<br />

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Social Security (Inherited SERPS) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. (i) Draft Pension Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

3. Draft Tax Credits Up-rating Regulations 2005, laid under the Tax Credits Act 2002,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Social Security Administration Act 1992, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

5. Draft Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating (Northern Ireland) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Social Security Administration (Northern Ireland) Act 1992, together with<br />

an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

6. Draft Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Transport Act 2000 (Commencement of Quality Contracts Schemes) (England) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Transport Act 2000; (75)<br />

2. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Metropolitan Borough<br />

of Stockport) Order 2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (81)<br />

3. Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990; (85)<br />

4. Unsolicited Goods and Services Act 1971 (Electronic Commerce) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act 1972. (148)<br />

Public Business<br />

9. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the Report of<br />

the Select Committee on Economic AVairs on Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present Successes<br />

and Future Problems (3rd Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 176) be referred to a Grand<br />

Committee; after debate, the motion was agreed to.


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10. Child Trust Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the draft Regulations be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debate on<br />

any Unstarred Question taken in a Grand Committee shall be limited to one and a half hours;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

12. Renewable Energy Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.<br />

13. School Transport Bill—It was moved by the Lord Filkin that the bill be now read a second time;<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Grand Committee.<br />

14. Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (Disapplication of Part IV for Northern<br />

Ireland Parties, etc) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that<br />

the draft Order laid before the House on 20th December 2004 be approved; after debate, the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Northern Ireland—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that this House takes<br />

note of developments in Northern Ireland; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at a quarter past eight o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX 1<br />

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Great Britain and<br />

Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth<br />

Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to<br />

whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge<br />

and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us<br />

enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Counsellor<br />

Neil Gordon Kinnock to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Kinnock of Bedwellty<br />

in Our County of Gwent<br />

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style<br />

dignity title and honour of Baron Kinnock to have and to hold unto him for his life<br />

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and<br />

possess a seat place and voice in the <strong>Parliament</strong>s and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs<br />

and successors within Our <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use<br />

all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of<br />

right belonging which Barons of Our <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do<br />

at present use and enjoy<br />

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster<br />

the twenty-eighth day of January in the fifty-third year of Our Reign<br />

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL<br />

Tuesday 1st February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brett, L.


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Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Durham, Bp.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.


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Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rochester, Bp.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truro, Bp.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Friday 4th February.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Ronald Grant Jones was presented<br />

without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant<br />

to Standing Order XIII; and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the<br />

statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th March (lodged 28th January).<br />

3. Fayed and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee<br />

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4. CMA CGM SA (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Classica Shipping Company<br />

Limited (Original Respondents and Cross-appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing<br />

and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

5. Rees (FC) (Respondent) v. Darlington Memorial Hospital NHS Trust (Appellants)—The<br />

respondent’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

6. In re J (a child) (FC)—The appellant’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

Papers<br />

7. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Social Security—Report by the Government Actuary on the drafts of the Social Security<br />

Benefits Up-rating Order 2005 and the Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and<br />

National Insurance Funds Payments) Order 2005. (6457)<br />

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Funds<br />

Payments) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;<br />

2. Draft Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 2005, laid under the Pension<br />

Schemes Act 1993, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Heathrow Express Class 360/2) Exemption Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; (86)<br />

2. Tax Credits (Approval of Child Care Providers) Scheme 2005, laid under the Tax Credits<br />

Act 2002; (93)<br />

3. Tynemouth College and North Tyneside College (Dissolution) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Further and Higher Education Act 1992; (94)<br />

4. Hill Farm Allowance Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

(154)<br />

5. Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social<br />

Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (166)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

10. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

8th Report, on the following negative instruments:<br />

South-west Territorial Waters (Prohibition of Pair Trawling) Order 2004;<br />

South-west Territorial Waters (Prohibition of Pair Trawling) (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Supply of Extended Warranties on Domestic Electrical Goods Order 2005. (HL<br />

Paper 36)<br />

11. Tax Law Rewrite Bills—The First Report from the Joint Committee, being a report on the Income<br />

Tax (Trading and Other Income) Bill, was made and ordered to be printed, together with the<br />

minutes of proceedings and the minutes of evidence. (HL Paper 37)<br />

12. Statutory Instruments—The 7th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Gangmasters (Licensing Authority) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Gender Recognition (Approved Countries and Territories) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers’ Compensation) (Payment of Claims)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Continuance of Part VII) Order 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 38)


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Public Business<br />

13. Mental Capacity Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was<br />

resumed.<br />

14. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Constituencies (Scotland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Evans of Temple<br />

Guiting that the draft Order laid before the House on 14th December 2004 be approved; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

15. Mental Capacity Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed<br />

after clause 40 stood part.<br />

The House was adjourned at eighteen minutes before eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 2nd February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Canterbury, Abp.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

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Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Edmundsbury and Ipswich, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.


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Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Miles (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of Kent (Respondent)—The petition of John Miles praying<br />

for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by<br />

the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee (lodged 26th November).<br />

2. R (on the application of Laporte) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of Gloucestershire<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of Jane Laporte praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

3. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Bhamjee (Petitioner)—The petition of Ismail<br />

Abdulhai Bhamjee praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by<br />

Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been<br />

waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. In re McClean (Original Respondent and Cross-appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the Secretary of State for Northern<br />

Ireland praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal was presented and referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee.<br />

5. R v. Jones (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. J (Respondent))—<br />

6. R v. Milling (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. M (Respondent))—<br />

7. R v. Olditch (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. O (Respondent))—<br />

8. R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. P (Respondent))—<br />

9. R v. Richards (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. R (Respondent))—<br />

The petition of the appellant praying that the appeals be consolidated, that he be allowed to<br />

lodge one statement, one appendix and one case and be jointly represented in respect of the<br />

appeals and that the respondents have leave to lodge one case in respect of the appeals (the<br />

agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


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10. R (on the application of Jones and others) (Respondents) v. Ceredigion County Council<br />

(Appellants) (Civil Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—Upon application by<br />

the appellants (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto), it was ordered that the<br />

appeal be withdrawn and that the appellants do pay to the respondents their costs before this<br />

House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed<br />

between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

11. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Social Security—Opportunity and security throughout life: Government Proposals;<br />

(6447)<br />

2. Draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill; (6462)<br />

3. Finance—Memorandum from the Public Accounts Committee on the Northern Ireland<br />

Department of Finance and Personnel. (6468)<br />

12. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Child Support Act 1991, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005, laid under the Pensions<br />

Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. (i) Draft Social Security (Intensive Activity Period 50 to 59 Pilot) Regulations 2005,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Social Security (Intensive Activity Period 50 to 59 Pilot) (No. 2) Regulations<br />

2005, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Jobseekers Act 1995;<br />

13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Metropolitan District<br />

of Leeds) Order 2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (95)<br />

2. Community Legal Service (Funding) (Counsel in Family Proceedings) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Access to Justice Act 1999; (184)<br />

3. Pensions Regulator Code of Practice No. 1: Reporting breaches of the law, laid under the<br />

Pensions Act 2004. (—)<br />

14. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report for 2003–04 of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Schools, laid under the School<br />

Inspections Act 1996;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Local Probation Boards, laid under the Criminal Justice and<br />

Court Services Act 2000, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

15. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

7th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Management of OVenders and Sentencing Bill [hl];<br />

School Transport Bill;<br />

TraYc Wardens and Parking Attendants Bill [hl]; (HL Paper 39)<br />

8th Report, on the following Orders:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Prison OYcers) (Industrial Action) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Trading Stamps) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature Conservation Committee) Order 2005.<br />

Paper 40)<br />

(HL


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Private Business<br />

16. HBOS Group Reorganisation (Petition for bill)—It was reported from the Standing Orders<br />

Committee, that the Standing Orders not complied with in respect of the Petition for the bill<br />

ought to be dispensed with; the report was agreed to.<br />

Public Business<br />

17. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debate on<br />

the motion in the name of the Lord Hannay of Chiswick set down for today shall be limited<br />

to 4 hours and that in the name of the Lord Northbourne to 2 hours; the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill, Draft—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness<br />

Amos) that it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to<br />

consider and report on any draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill presented to both<br />

Houses by a Minister of the Crown, and that the Committee should report on the draft Bill<br />

by 26th May 2005; the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the<br />

Commons to acquaint them therewith.<br />

19. Inquiries Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham, on behalf of the Lord Falconer<br />

of Thoroton, that the amendments for the Report stage be marshalled and considered in the<br />

following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 44 Clause 46<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 3<br />

Clause 45 Clauses 47 to 50;<br />

Schedule 2<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. <strong>United</strong> Nations reform, and conflict in Africa (4-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Hannay<br />

of Chiswick that there be laid before the House papers relating to the Report to the <strong>United</strong><br />

Nations by the High-Level Panel on Threats, Challenges and Change, the Millennium<br />

Development Goals Review, and to the causes of conflict in Africa; after debate, the motion<br />

was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

21. Parents and children (2-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Northbourne that there be laid<br />

before the House papers relating to the role of parents in the welfare of children and to the<br />

case for involving parents more in the design and delivery of services for children; after debate,<br />

the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

22. TraYc Wardens and Parking Attendants Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Lucas that the bill<br />

be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed<br />

to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

Thursday 3rd February 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

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Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

HoVmann, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

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Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Hayter (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 14th Report from the Appellate Committee<br />

be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

Order of the Court of Appeal, Criminal Division of 16th April 2003 be aYrmed, and the<br />

appeal dismissed; and that the certified questions be answered in the aYrmative. [2005]<br />

UKHL 6


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2. Moy v. Pettman Smith (a firm) (Original Respondents and Cross-appellants) and another (Original<br />

Appellant and Cross-respondent)—It was moved by the Lord Hope of Craighead on behalf<br />

of the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 15th Report from the Appellate Committee be<br />

agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed<br />

and the cross-appeal dismissed; that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 25th March 2003 be<br />

set aside and the Order of His Honour Judge Geddes in the High Court of Justice, Queen’s<br />

Bench Division of 11th July 2001 restored; and that the respondents do pay to the appellants<br />

their costs in the Court of Appeal and in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs<br />

to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005]<br />

UKHL 7<br />

3. Hilton (Appellant) v. Barker Booth and Eastwood (a firm) (Respondents)—It was moved by the<br />

Lord HoVmann, That the 16th Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the<br />

motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of<br />

22nd May 2002 and the Order of His Honour Judge Maddocks in the High Court of 28th<br />

September 2001 be set aside; that the case be remitted back to the High Court for an<br />

assessment of damages in accordance with the opinions expressed in this House; that the<br />

respondents do pay to the appellant his costs in this House and below, the amount of such<br />

costs in this House to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties; and that the costs of the assessment of damages in the High Court be left to the<br />

discretion of the judge. [2005] UKHL 8<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

4. House of Lords Journals—The 236th volume of the Journals (Session 2002-03), with an index, was<br />

laid on the Table by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. European Union—Prospects for the EU in 2005: Government Proposals; (6450)<br />

2. Legal Services—Court Boards Guidance. (6461)<br />

6. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) (Amendment) Rules 2005,<br />

laid under the Special Immigration Appeals Commission Act 1997, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2005, laid under the Northern<br />

Ireland Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

7. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on<br />

the Table:<br />

Transfrontier Shipment of Waste (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the European<br />

Communities Act 1972. (187)<br />

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Council for Catholic Maintained Schools, laid<br />

under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;<br />

2. Report on Tax Credits by the Inland Revenue Commissioners, laid under the Tax Credits<br />

Act 2002.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

9. Human Rights—The 6th Report of the Joint Committee, Scrutiny: Second Progress Report,<br />

together with appendices, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 41)<br />

10. Economic AVairs Committee—The First Report from the Select Committee, on the Government<br />

response to Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present Successes and Future Problems, was made<br />

and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 43)<br />

Public Business<br />

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean, on behalf of the<br />

Lord President (Baroness Amos), that the debate on the motion in the name of the Lord<br />

Mitchell set down for today shall be limited to 2 hours; the motion was agreed to.


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12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean, on behalf of the<br />

Lord President (Baroness Amos), that leave be given to advance the Second Reading of the<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill from Tuesday 8th February to Monday 7th<br />

February; the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1);<br />

amendments were agreed to; further consideration on report was adjourned.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

14. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to; an amendment<br />

was disagreed to (see division list 2); further consideration on report was adjourned after<br />

amendment 34.<br />

15. Science and Treaties (S&T Report) (2-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Mitchell that this<br />

House takes note of the Report of the Science and Technology Committee on Science and<br />

Treaties (3rd Report, Session 2003-04); after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before seven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Masham of Ilton, in Clause 2, page 3, line 32, at end to insert:<br />

“( ) In the 1995 Act, after section 21(2) there is inserted<br />

“(2A) In determining their duty under subsection (2), NHS hospital trusts shall ensure<br />

that adequate equipment is available to enable disabled persons to be diagnosed and<br />

treated to the same standards as other persons.<br />

(2B) When assessing the reasonableness of providing equipment under subsection (2A),<br />

NHS hospital trusts must not refuse to provide equipment on the grounds of cost alone,<br />

unless those costs are grossly disproportionate.””;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 80<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 103<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Harris of Richmond, B. [Teller]<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B. [Teller]<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.


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Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, after Clause 8, to insert the new Clause (Bus<br />

accessibility regulations); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House<br />

divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 36<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 100<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B. [Teller]<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

[Teller]<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.


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Chandos, V.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at a quarter past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after<br />

amendment 8.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at eleven minutes before seven o’clock.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Friday 4th February 2005<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

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Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. R v. Coutts (Petitioner)—The petition of Graham James Coutts praying for leave to appeal in<br />

accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 3rd February).<br />

Papers<br />

2. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Relaxation of Restriction on Disclosure) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Local Authorities (Alteration of Requisite Calculations) (England) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992; (190)<br />

2. Child Trust Funds (Non-tax Appeals) Regulations 2005, laid under the Child Trust<br />

Funds Act 2004; (191)<br />

3. Social Security and Child Support Commissioners (Procedure) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security Act 1998; (207)<br />

4. (i) Food (Pistachios from Iran) (Emergency Control) (England) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005— (208)


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(ii) Poultry Meat, Farmed Game Bird Meat and Rabbit Meat (Hygiene and Inspection)<br />

(Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005— (209)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972.<br />

4. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Amendment List 11 to the Fifth Edition of the Queen’s Regulations for the Royal Air Force,<br />

laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917.<br />

Public Business<br />

5. Renewable Energy Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

6. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner (Amendment) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Lester of Herne<br />

Hill that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the<br />

bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

7. Child Benefit Bill—A bill to make provision for and in connection with altering the descriptions<br />

of persons in respect of whom a person may be entitled to child benefit was brought from the<br />

Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 23)<br />

8. Child Benefit Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 23-EN)<br />

9. Extradition Act 2003 (Amendment to Designations) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Bassam of Brighton that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th January be approved;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

10. Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Amendments to Schedule 2) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Bassam of Brighton that the draft Order laid before the House on 17th January be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

11. Asylum (Designated States) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Bassam of Brighton that the<br />

draft Order laid before the House on 18th January be approved; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

12. Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Communications Data) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Bassam of Brighton that the draft Order laid before the House on 16th<br />

December 2004 be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Directed Surveillance and Covert Human Intelligence<br />

Sources) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Bassam of Brighton that the<br />

draft Order laid before the House on 16th December 2004 be approved; the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

14. HIV/AIDS—The Baroness Northover asked Her Majesty’s Government what further plans they<br />

have to help tackle the AIDS epidemic and support the increasing number of HIV/AIDS<br />

orphans in Africa and elsewhere; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord<br />

Triesman.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes before three o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 7th February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.


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Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cullen of Whitekirk, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flowers, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hutton, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.


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Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. London Diocesan Fund and others and others (Respondents) v. Avonridge Property Company<br />

Limited (Appellants) (England)— The appeal of Avonridge Property Company was presented<br />

and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix<br />

thereto be lodged on or before 21st March.<br />

2. Sutradhar (Appellant) v. Natural Environment Research Council (Respondents) (England)— The<br />

appeal of Binod Sutradhar was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing<br />

Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 21st March.<br />

3. Agassi (Respondent) v. Robinson (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Petitioner)— The petition<br />

of Steven Robinson praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 20th December).<br />

4. In re McClean (Original Respondent and Cross-appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)— The petition of the Northern Ireland Human Rights<br />

Commission praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal by way of written submissions<br />

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5. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Appellant) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Respondents)—<br />

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth AVairs (Respondent) ex parte Quark<br />

Fishing Limited (Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The 21st Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R v. Ahmed and another (Petitioners)— That leave to appeal be refused.<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Bhamjee (Petitioner)— That leave to appeal<br />

be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction<br />

5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of<br />

the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

R v. Longworth (Petitioner)— That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal<br />

be lodged by 21st February.<br />

Papers<br />

8. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 2nd February, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Occupational Pensions Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005.<br />

9. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. European Union—Commentary on the Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe;<br />

(6459)<br />

2. Immigration—Controlling our Borders—Making migration work for Britain:<br />

Government Proposals. (6472)<br />

10. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-<br />

Seekers) Regulations 2005, laid under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Northern Ireland Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Leasehold Houses (Notice of Insurance Cover) (England) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act 2002; (177)<br />

2. Police (Promotion) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Police Act 1996;<br />

(178)<br />

3. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of SheYeld) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (194)<br />

4. Sexual OVences Act 2003 (Prescribed Police Stations) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Sexual OVences Act 2003; (210)<br />

5. (i) Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment and Support Schemes (Integrated<br />

Administration and Control System) Regulations 2005— (218)<br />

(ii) Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment and Support Schemes Regulations<br />

2005— (219)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

6. Foreign Satellite Service Proscription Order 2005, laid under the Broadcasting Act 1990;<br />

(220)<br />

7. Rates (Regional Rates) Order (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 2000; (—)<br />

8. Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules, laid under the Immigration Act 1971. (—)<br />

12. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Accounts for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland National Insurance Fund, laid under the Social<br />

Security Administration (Northern Ireland) Act 1992, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General.


2005 7th February<br />

163<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

13. European Union—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee, Current Developments in<br />

European Foreign Policy, was made and ordered to be printed, together with the Minutes of<br />

Evidence. (HL Paper 44)<br />

Private Business<br />

14. Liverpool City Council (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [hl]— The following<br />

petitions praying to be heard against the bill were deposited on or before 7th February 2005:<br />

Petition<br />

no.<br />

Petitioner Agent Deposited<br />

1. The Air Cleaner Manufacturers Rees & Freres 1st February 2005<br />

Association<br />

2. Irish American Leisure Limited Rees & Freres 3rd February 2005<br />

3. Hunters & Frankau Limited Rees & Freres 3rd February 2005<br />

4. The National Association of Cigarette Rees & Freres 3rd February 2005<br />

Machine Operators<br />

5. Pyramid Pub Management Company Graeme Percy 4th February 2005<br />

Limited<br />

6. The Association of Independent Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

Tobacco Specialists<br />

7. Network Rail Infrastructure Limited Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

8. The Association of Licensed Multiple Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

Retailers, the British Beer and Pub<br />

Association and the British Hospitality<br />

Association<br />

9. Theatrical Management Association Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

10. Tony Brookes, Roger Parker and Ms L Daniel Pearce 7th February 2005<br />

Trail<br />

11. Anna Slater, Sylvia Burgess, Yvonne Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

Hughes, James Grugel, Marion<br />

Doctor, Lynette McGowan and<br />

George Lawson<br />

12. 3345 Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

13. Baa Bar Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

14. C. Gars Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

15. The Exchange Bar Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

16. The Flanagan Group Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

17. Imperial Tobacco Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

18. Keith David Haggis Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

19. Lyceum Group Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

15. London Local Authorities Bill [hl]— The following petitions praying to be heard against the<br />

bill were deposited on or before 7th February 2005:<br />

Petition<br />

no.<br />

Petitioner Agent Deposited<br />

1. The British Art Market Federation Anthony Browne 1st February 2005<br />

2. The National Federation of Retail Catherine Tong 4th February 2005<br />

Newsagents<br />

3. The Wrigley Company Limited Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

4. The Outdoor Advertising Association Gavin Devine 4th February 2005<br />

5. The Commonwealth War Graves Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

Commission<br />

6. Network Rail Infrastructure Limited Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

7. Orange Personal Communications Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

Services Limited<br />

8. Vodafone Limited Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

9. The Covent Garden Community Amanda Rigby 7th February 2005<br />

Association<br />

10. British Telecommunications PLC Stephen Prior 7th February 2005


164 7th February<br />

2005<br />

Petition<br />

no.<br />

Petitioner Agent Deposited<br />

11. Open Spaces Society and Camden Bernard Selwyn 7th February 2005<br />

Civic Society<br />

12. Association of Convenience Stores David Rae 7th February 2005<br />

13. Two Garden Court Chambers Marc Willers 7th February 2005<br />

14. Royal Mail Group PLC Winckworth 7th February 2005<br />

Sherwood<br />

15. Maples Teesdale Winckworth 7th February 2005<br />

Sherwood<br />

16. The Sir John Soane’s Museum Winckworth 7th February 2005<br />

Sherwood<br />

17. The Honourable Society of Lincoln’s Winckworth 7th February 2005<br />

Inn<br />

Sherwood<br />

18. The Royal College of Surgeons of Winckworth 7th February 2005<br />

England<br />

Sherwood<br />

19. Cable and Wireless UK Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

20. National Grid Transco Plc Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

21. National Joint Utilities Group Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

22. NTL Group Limited Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

23. The Society of London Theatre and Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

the Theatrical Management<br />

Association<br />

24. Thames Water Utilities Limited Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

25. Three Valleys Water PLC Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

26. Biscuit Cake Chocolate and Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

Confectionery Association (BCCCA)<br />

16. London Local Authorities (Prohibition of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [hl]— The following<br />

petitions praying to be heard against the bill were deposited on or before 7th February<br />

2005:<br />

Petition<br />

no.<br />

Petitioner Agent Deposited<br />

1. Crane’s (Walthamstow) Limited Rees & Freres 1st February 2005<br />

2. The Air Cleaner Manufacturers Rees & Freres 1st February 2005<br />

Association<br />

3. Hunters & Frankau Limited Rees & Freres 3rd February 2005<br />

4. The National Association of Cigarette Rees & Freres 3rd February 2005<br />

Machine Operators<br />

5. The Westminster Licensees Association Rees & Freres 3rd February 2005<br />

6. The Association of Independent Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

Tobacco Specialists<br />

7. Network Rail Infrastructure Limited Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

8. Gary Mallen Rees & Freres 4th February 2005<br />

9. Stephen Forster Thompson, Joseph Stephen Forster 7th February 2005<br />

Nicholas Thompson, Sharon Murphy, Thompson<br />

Andy Raper, Graham Healy, Terry<br />

Young, Gomer Roberts, Adele<br />

McKenna, Annabelle Davies, Adrian<br />

Straatman, Laura Bethel, Tim<br />

Pinkstone, Margaret Doherty, Anne<br />

Young, Paul McGurn, Alan Jordan,<br />

Terry Freak and Barbara McCann<br />

10. Gunnersbury Ltd trading as Smoke Bernard Crouch 7th February 2005<br />

Free Systems UK Ltd<br />

11. The Association of Licensed Multiple Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

Retailers, The British Beer and Pub<br />

Association and The British<br />

Hospitality Association<br />

12. The Society of London Theatre and Bircham Dyson Bell 7th February 2005<br />

the Theatrical Management<br />

Association


2005 7th February<br />

165<br />

Petition<br />

no.<br />

Petitioner Agent Deposited<br />

13. Kristin Foord, Brian Hebblethwaite, Daniel Pearce 7th February 2005<br />

Robert McArthur, Noel Bernard<br />

McMahon, D.J. Scott and Ms S. Tully<br />

14. Martyn Edwards, Theresa Adams, Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

Geraldine Musgreaves, Lesley<br />

Webster, Bruna Weeks, Clare Lloyd,<br />

Irene Luker, John Donaghue and Paul<br />

Newman<br />

15. Embassy London Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

16. Gruppo Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

17. Imperial Tobacco Limited Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

18. Richard Shepherd, Antony Worrall Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

Thompson, Christopher Bodker, Soren<br />

Jessen, Tom Conran and Ranald<br />

Macdonald<br />

19. Lynda Solomon, Derek and Martina Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

O’Brian, John Waller, David Bates and<br />

Bill Sharp<br />

20. The West Middlesex Licensed Rees & Freres 7th February 2005<br />

Victuallers Association<br />

Public Business<br />

17. International Organisations Bill [hl]— The report was received; amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list).<br />

18. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—It was moved by the Lord Goldsmith that the bill<br />

be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed<br />

to a Grand Committee.<br />

19. Inquiries Bill [hl]— The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)<br />

withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; further consideration on report was adjourned after<br />

amendment 31.<br />

The House was adjourned at three minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISION<br />

INTERNATIONAL ORGANISATIONS BILL [HL]<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Rawlings, in Clause 5, page 3, line 38, at end to insert:<br />

“( ) This section comes into force the day after Her Majesty’s Government have initiated a<br />

review within the Council of the European Union of the privileges and immunities which<br />

ought to be extended to the bodies and persons to which this section applies.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 103<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 130<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.


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2005<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.


2005 8th February<br />

167<br />

Tuesday 8th February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.


168 8th February<br />

2005<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.


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Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. R (on the application of Gillan (FC) and another (FC)) (Appellants) v. Commissioner of Police for<br />

the Metropolis and another (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Kevin Gillan and<br />

Pennie Quinton was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI<br />

the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 22nd March.<br />

2. Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Respondents)—It was ordered that the appellant be allowed to prosecute the<br />

appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

3. Appeal Committee—The 22nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the<br />

following Order was made—<br />

In re McClean (Original Respondent and Cross-appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of<br />

Appeal Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—That the petition of the Secretary of State for<br />

Northern Ireland that he might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be allowed.<br />

4. Appeal Committee—The 23rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the<br />

following Order was made—<br />

In re McClean (Original Respondent and Cross-appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of<br />

Appeal Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—That the petition of the Northern Ireland<br />

Human Rights Commission that they might intervene in the said appeal by way of written<br />

submissions only be allowed.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Contingent Liability—Departmental Minute from the Department of Health on Health Costs<br />

Associated with Staging the Olympic Games in London in 2012. (—)<br />

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Higher Education (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland Act<br />

2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Greater London Authority (Allocation of Grants for Precept Calculations) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Greater London Authority Act 1999; (221)<br />

2. Copyright (Educational Establishments) Order 2005, laid under the Copyright, Designs<br />

and Patents Act 1988; (223)<br />

3. (i) Asylum and Immigration Tribunal (Judicial Titles) Order 2005— (227)<br />

(ii) Asylum and Immigration Tribunal (Procedure) Rules 2005— (230)<br />

laid under the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002;<br />

4. Family Proceedings Courts (Children Act 1989) (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the<br />

Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980. (229)<br />

8. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Food Standards Agency, laid under the Food<br />

Standards Act 1999.


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9. Special Procedure Order—The following special procedure order was laid before the House,<br />

together with the certificate of the Secretary of State for Transport, and ordered to lie on<br />

the Table:<br />

Midland Metro (Wednesbury to Brierley Hill and Miscellaneous Amendments) Order 2005.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

10. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

9th Report, on the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (Continuance in force of sections 21<br />

to 23) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Gangmasters (Licensing Authority) Regulations 2005. (HL Paper 45)<br />

11. Statutory Instruments—The 8th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Adults with Incapacity (Scotland) Act 2000 (Consequential Modifications)<br />

(England, Wales and Northern Ireland) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating (Northern Ireland) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating Order 2005;<br />

Draft Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Data Protection (Subject Access Modification) (Social Work) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005;<br />

Draft Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004 (Consequential<br />

Modifications) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order<br />

2005;<br />

Draft Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 2005;<br />

Draft Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Pension Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) (No. 2) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Funds<br />

Payments) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security (Inherited SERPS) (Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security (Intensive Activity Period 50 to 59 Pilot) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security (Intensive Activity Period 50 to 59 Pilot) (No. 2) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) (Amendment) Rules 2005;<br />

Draft Tax Credits Up-rating Regulations 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 46)<br />

Public Business<br />

12. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—A bill to provide for the establishment and functions of<br />

the Serious Organised Crime Agency; to make provision about investigations, prosecutions,<br />

oVenders and witnesses in criminal proceedings and the protection of persons involved in<br />

investigations or proceedings; to provide for the implementation of certain international<br />

obligations relating to criminal matters; to amend the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002; to make<br />

further provision for combating crime and disorder, including new provision about powers of<br />

arrest and search warrants and about parental compensation orders; to make further<br />

provision about the police and policing and persons supporting the police; to make provision<br />

for protecting certain organisations from interference with their activities; to make provision<br />

about criminal records; to provide for the Private Security Industry Act 2001 to extend to<br />

Scotland; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and<br />

ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 24)<br />

13. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to<br />

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14. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Evans of Temple Guiting<br />

that the amendments for the Report stage be marshalled and considered in the following<br />

order:<br />

Clause 1 Schedule 4<br />

Schedule 1 Clauses 35 and 36<br />

Clauses 2 to 10 Schedule 5<br />

Schedule 2 Clauses 37 and 38<br />

Clauses 11 to 27 Schedules 6 and 7<br />

Schedule 3 Clauses 39 to 45;<br />

Clauses 28 to 34<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; an amendment was<br />

agreed to (see division list 1); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn;<br />

an amendment was agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 25)<br />

16. Inquiries Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was disagreed to<br />

(see division list 2); it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 26)<br />

17. Mental Capacity Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed<br />

and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended.<br />

(HL Bill 27)<br />

18. Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill, Draft—A message was brought from the Commons that<br />

they concur with the Lords that it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons<br />

be appointed to consider and report on any draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill<br />

presented to both Houses by a Minister of the Crown, and that the Committee should report<br />

on the draft Bill by 26th May 2005, and have ordered:<br />

That a Select Committee of six honourable Members be appointed to join with the Committee<br />

appointed by the Lords to consider the draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill;<br />

That the Committee shall have power—<br />

(i) to send for persons, papers and records;<br />

(ii) to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;<br />

(iii) to report from time to time;<br />

(iv) to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

(v) to adjourn from place to place within the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>; and<br />

That the quorum of the Committee shall be two.<br />

The House was adjourned at sixteen minutes before eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

Division No. 1<br />

DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION BILL [HL]<br />

It was moved by the Lord Skelmersdale in Clause 17, page 42, line 32, at end to insert:<br />

“( ) In paragraph 2, after sub-paragraph (2) there is inserted—<br />

“( ) Without prejudice to the operation of sub-paragraph (2), the mental impairment consisting of or<br />

resulting from depression that has ceased to have a substantial adverse eVect on a person’s ability to<br />

carry out normal day to day activities shall always be treated as if that eVect is likely to recur if the person<br />

has had within the last 5 years a previous episode of such impairment which had a substantial adverse<br />

eVect on the person’s ability to carry out normal day to day activities for a period of 6 months or<br />

more.””;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 138<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 131<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

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Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Condon, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

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Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

INQUIRIES BILL [HL]<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in Clause 17, page 7, line 27, to leave out “either or both of the<br />

following ways” and insert “the following way”; which being objected to, the question was put<br />

thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 61<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 163<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

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Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Wednesday 9th February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.


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Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greenfield, B.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.


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Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

1. Barony of Vivian in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Lord Chancellor reported that<br />

Charles Crespigny Hussey Vivian had established his succession to the Barony of Vivian in<br />

the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>. The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s was accordingly directed<br />

to enter the Lord Vivian on the register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing<br />

Order 10(5).<br />

2. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Wednesday 23rd<br />

February.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

3. Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Appellants)<br />

(England)—The appeal of V M Burroughs, K A Bartlett, D Carey and A Sheen was presented<br />

and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix<br />

thereto be lodged on or before 23rd March.<br />

4. Matthews and others (Appellants) v. Kent and Medway Towns Fire Authority and others<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 16th March (the<br />

agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


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5. Appeal Committee—The 24th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

A and others (Petitioners) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)<br />

(2004)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 23rd<br />

February.<br />

A and others (Petitioners) (FC) and others v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by<br />

23rd February.<br />

Papers<br />

6. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 4th February, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Draft Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Relaxation of Restriction on Disclosure) Order 2005.<br />

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Finance—Treasury Minutes on the Fifty-first and Fifty-second Reports from the<br />

Committee of Public Accounts; (6458)<br />

2. Defence—Amendment to the Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and the <strong>United</strong><br />

States of America for Cooperation on the Uses of Atomic Energy for Mutual Defence<br />

Purposes. (6471)<br />

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Relaxation of Restriction on Disclosure) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Courts Act 2003 (Consequential Provisions) Order 2005, laid under the Courts Act<br />

2003, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. Draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Child Trust Funds) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Social Security Act 1998, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications and Deemed Applications)<br />

(Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the Town and Country Planning<br />

Act 1990, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

5. Draft Child Trust Funds (Appeals) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Social Security (Northern Ireland) Order 1998, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum;<br />

6. Draft Child Trust Funds (Appeals) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security Act<br />

1998, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

7. (i) Draft Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection<br />

Provisions) Regulations 2005, together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

8. (i) Draft Budget (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Special Educational Needs and Disability (Northern Ireland) Order 2005,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;<br />

9. Draft New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiative) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

National Lottery Act etc. Act 1993;<br />

10. Draft Renewables Obligation Order 2005, laid under the Electricity Act 1989, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

9. Regulatory Reform—The following order was laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (National Health Service Charitable and Non-Charitable Trust<br />

Accounts and Audit) Order 2005, together with a statement by the Department of Health.<br />

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Export Control (Iraq and Ivory Coast) Order 2005, laid under the Export Control Act<br />

2002;<br />

2. (i) Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Designated Activities) Order 2005— (234)


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(ii) Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Duration of Licence) Order 2005— (235)<br />

(iii) Private Security Industry (Licences) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (237)<br />

(iv) Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Repeal and Revocation) Order 2005— (248)<br />

laid under the Private Security Industry Act 2001;<br />

3. (i) End-of-Life Vehicles (Producer Responsibility) Regulations 2005— (263)<br />

(ii) European Communities (Jurisdiction and Judgments in Matrimonial and Parental<br />

Responsibility Matters) Regulations 2005— (265)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

4. Family Proceedings (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the Matrimonial and Family<br />

Proceedings Act 1984. (264)<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

11. Human Rights—The 7th Report of the Joint Committee, Scrutiny: Third Progress Report,<br />

together with appendices, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 47)<br />

Public Business<br />

12. Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision about the<br />

registration of electors in Northern Ireland in cases where required information is not<br />

provided was presented by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton on behalf of the Baroness<br />

Amos, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 28)<br />

13. Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes<br />

relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 28-EN)<br />

14. Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill, Draft—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that<br />

the Commons message of yesterday be now considered, and that a Committee of six Lords be<br />

appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons to consider and report on<br />

the draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill presented to both Houses on 2nd February<br />

2005 (Cm 6462);<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the Lords following be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

E. Dundee B. Howarth of Breckland<br />

B. Gould of Potternewton B. Massey of Darwen<br />

B. Hooper B. Nicholson of Winterbourne;<br />

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a<br />

Chairman;<br />

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>;<br />

That the quorum of the Committee shall be two;<br />

That the reports of the Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding any<br />

adjournment of the House;<br />

And that the Committee do report on the draft Bill by 26th May 2005;<br />

the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaint<br />

them therewith.<br />

15. <strong>Parliament</strong>: public engagement (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Lord Norton of Louth<br />

that there be laid before the House papers relating to the case for increasing public engagement<br />

with <strong>Parliament</strong>; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

16. Children in care (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Earl of Listowel that there be laid before<br />

the House papers relating to the prospects of children cared for by local authorities; after<br />

debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

17. Terrorism Act 2000 (Continuance of Part VII) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the draft Order laid before the House on 20th January be approved;<br />

after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 2005—It was moved<br />

by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order laid before the House on 26th<br />

January be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Evans of<br />

Temple Guiting that the draft Order laid before the House on 9th December 2004 be<br />

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20. Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) (No. 2) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting that the draft Order laid before the House on 25th January be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order 2005—It was moved<br />

by the Lord Evans of Temple Guiting that the draft Order laid before the House on 18th<br />

January be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in Grand Committee; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after clause 4<br />

stood part.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at half-past seven o’clock.<br />

Thursday 10th February 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

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Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

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Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Wang (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—The 17th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee was made and ordered to be printed (HL Paper 42). It<br />

was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the Report be agreed to; the motion was<br />

agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal Criminal<br />

Division of 10th December 2003 be set aside and the Appellant’s conviction at Chelmsford<br />

Crown Court on 4th October 2002 quashed; and that the certified question be answered by<br />

saying that there are no circumstances in which a judge is entitled to direct a jury to return a<br />

verdict of guilty. [2005] UKHL 9<br />

2. Polanski (Appellant) v. Conde Nast Publications Limited (Respondents)—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Hope of Craighead on behalf of the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 18th Report<br />

from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and<br />

adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 11th November 2003 be set aside and the<br />

Order of Mr Justice Eady in the High Court of Justice Queen’s Bench Division of 9th October<br />

2003 restored; and that the respondents do pay to the appellant his costs in the Court of<br />

Appeal and in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk<br />

of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 10<br />

3. Autologic Holdings plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

4. BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

5. The Future Network plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

6. Perkins Engines Company Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

7. HJ Heinz Company Inc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

8. British Telecommunications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined; that they be allowed to<br />

lodge one statement, one case and one appendix in respect of the six appeals; and that the<br />

respondents have leave to lodge one case and be jointly represented (the agents for the<br />

respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

9. Appeal Committee—The 25th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Unilin Beheer BV (Respondents) v. Berry Floor NV and others (Petitioners)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (Respondent) v. Rutherford and another (FC)<br />

(Petitioners) and others—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be<br />

lodged by 24th February next.<br />

Blackburn Chemicals Limited (Petitioners) v. Bim Kemi AB (Respondents)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Mensah (Petitioner) v. Jones (Respondent)—That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

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Papers<br />

10. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill. (6460)<br />

11. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft OVshore Petroleum Activities (Oil Pollution Prevention and Control) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Pollution Prevention and Control Act 1999, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. (i) Draft Open-Ended Investment Companies (Amendment) Regulations 2005, together<br />

with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Carrying on Regulated Activities by<br />

Way of Business) (Amendment) Order 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.<br />

12. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Town and Country Planning (Timetable for Decisions) (England) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004; (205)<br />

2. Town and Country Planning (Temporary Stop Notice) (England) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990; (206)<br />

3. (i) Social Security Revaluation of Earnings Factors Order 2005— (216)<br />

(ii) Social Security Pensions (Low Earnings Threshold) Order 2005— (217)<br />

laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;<br />

4. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Hampshire)<br />

(Borough of Havant) Order 2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (233)<br />

5. Ivory Coast (<strong>United</strong> Nations Sanctions) Order 2005, laid under the <strong>United</strong> Nations Act<br />

1946; (253)<br />

6. Non-Contentious Probate Fees (Indian Ocean Tsunami) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Courts Act 2003; (266)<br />

7. Water and Sewerage Undertakers (Inset Appointments) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Water Industry Act 1991; (268)<br />

8. Representation of the People (Variation of Limits of Candidates’ Election Expenses)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Representation of the People Act 1983;<br />

9. (i) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion and Promotion of<br />

Collective Investment Schemes) (Miscellaneous Amendments) Order 2005— (270)<br />

(ii) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Disclosure of Information by Prescribed<br />

Persons) (Amendment) Order 2005— (272)<br />

(iii) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Service of Notices) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005— (274)<br />

laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.<br />

13. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Fourth Report of the Independent Monitoring Commission for Northern Ireland, laid<br />

under the Northern Ireland (Monitoring Commission etc.) Act 2003;<br />

2. Ivory Coast (Restrictive Measures) (Overseas Territories) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Saint Helena Act 1833. (242)<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

14. Procedure of the House—The First Report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to<br />

be printed (see Appendix 2). (HL Paper 48)<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Companies Act 1985 (Operating and Financial Review and Directors’ Report etc.) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos),<br />

that the draft Regulations be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.


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16. Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order 2005—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), that the draft<br />

Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Education Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Andrews, on behalf of the Lord Filkin, that<br />

the amendments for the Report stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:<br />

Clause 1 Clause 66<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 11<br />

Clauses 2 to 18 Clauses 67 to 69<br />

Schedule 2 Schedule 12<br />

Clauses 19 to 26 Clauses 70 to 74<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 13<br />

Clause 27 Clauses 75 to 95<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 14<br />

Clauses 28 to 45 Clause 96<br />

Schedule 5 Schedule 15<br />

Clauses 46 to 49 Clauses 97 and 98<br />

Schedule 6 Schedule 16<br />

Clauses 50 to 52 Clauses 99 to 103<br />

Schedule 7 Schedule 17<br />

Clause 53 Clauses 104 to 113<br />

Schedule 8 Schedule 18<br />

Clauses 54 to 60 Clauses 114 to 119<br />

Schedule 9 Schedule 19<br />

Clauses 61 to 65 Clauses 120 to 124;<br />

Schedule 10<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was<br />

agreed to (see division list); it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 29)<br />

19. Railways Bill—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that the bill be now read a second<br />

time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Grand<br />

Committee.<br />

The House was adjourned at five minutes past four o’clock<br />

to Monday 21st February next, half-past two o’clock, except for judicial business.<br />

DIVISION<br />

PUBLIC SERVICES OMBUDSMAN (WALES) BILL [HL]<br />

It was moved by the Lord Roberts of Conwy, after Clause 19, to insert the new Clause (Non-action<br />

following receipt of a report); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House<br />

divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 91<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 86<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L. [Teller]<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

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Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

APPENDIX 1<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at two o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the<br />

Committee was adjourned after amendment 64.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before six o’clock.


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190 10th February<br />

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2005 16th February<br />

191<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Wednesday 16th February 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter past four o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. J I MacWilliam Company Inc (Respondents) v. Mediterranean Shipping Company SA<br />

(Appellants)—It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 19th Report from the<br />

Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged<br />

that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 24th January 2003 be aYrmed and the appeal<br />

dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not<br />

agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 11<br />

2. Regina v. Smith (Appellant) (2004) (No. 2) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division))—<br />

3. Regina v. Mercieca (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 20th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

Orders of the Court of Appeal Criminal Division of 19th December 2003 be set aside and the<br />

convictions of the appellants in the Central Criminal Court of 30th May 2002 quashed; that<br />

both parts of the certified question be answered in the negative; and that the cases of both<br />

appellants be remitted to the Court of Appeal to determine whether to order a new trial. [2005]<br />

UKHL 12<br />

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Al-Hasan (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—<br />

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Carroll (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 21st Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

Orders of the Court of Appeal of 19th July 2001 and also the Orders of Mr Justice Newman<br />

in the Administrative Court of the Queen’s Bench Division of 16th February 2001 be set aside;<br />

and that the findings of guilt recorded against both appellants in their respective prison records<br />

be quashed and deleted; that the Respondent do pay to the Appellants their costs here and<br />

below; and that the Appellants’ costs be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act<br />

1999. [2005] UKHL 13<br />

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Greenfield (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 22nd Report from the<br />

Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged<br />

that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 19th July 2001 and also the Order of the Divisional<br />

Court of the Queen’s Bench Division of 22nd February 2001 be set aside; that there be no<br />

award of damages; and that it be declared “(1) that the Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department acted unlawfully by failing to provide the appellant with a hearing before an<br />

independent tribunal, contrary to article 6(1) of the European Convention on Human Rights;<br />

and (2) that the Secretary of State for the Home Department acted unlawfully by refusing to<br />

allow the appellant to be legally represented, contrary to article 6(3) of the European<br />

Convention on Human Rights.” That the question of costs be adjourned in order that the<br />

parties may make written submissions within 14 days; and that the costs of the appellant in<br />

this House be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2005] UKHL 14<br />

7. Szuluk (FC) (Petitioner) v. Governor of HMP Full Sutton and another (Respondents)—The<br />

petition of Edward Szuluk praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

8. R (on the application of Nilsen) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Governor of HMP Full Sutton and another<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Denis Andrew Nilsen praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.


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9. In re Hewitson (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of James<br />

Hewitson praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for<br />

leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960, was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

10. OYce of the King’s Prosecutor, Brussels (Respondents) v. Armas (Appellant) and others (Criminal<br />

Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The appeal was set down for hearing and<br />

referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

11. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellant<br />

praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for<br />

hearing might be extended to 2nd March (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto)<br />

was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

12. Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Appellants)—It<br />

was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual<br />

security for costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

13. Sutradhar (FC) (Appellant) v. Natural Environment Research Council (Respondents)—The<br />

appellant’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

14. Appeal Committee—The 26th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Zafar (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be<br />

refused.<br />

London Borough of Waltham Forest (Respondents) v. Omilaju (Petitioner)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-seven minutes before five o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

Monday 21st February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

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Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

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Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Winchester, Bp.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of London.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. R v. Longworth (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—The<br />

appeal of Gary Dean Longworth was presented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the<br />

procedures applicable thereto.<br />

2. Jones (trading as Shamrock Coaches) (Petitioner) v. Department of Transport Welsh TraYc Area<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Alison Jones praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 18th February).<br />

3. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Kehoe<br />

(FC) (Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee.<br />

4. Watkins (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Appellants) and others—The petition of the appellants<br />

praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for<br />

hearing might be extended to 4th April (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was<br />

presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

5. Appeal Committee—The 27th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R (on the application of Hammond) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be<br />

lodged by 7th March.<br />

MH (by her litigation friend, OYcial Solicitor) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Department of Health (Petitioner) and others—That leave to appeal be given; and that the<br />

petition of appeal be lodged by 7th March.<br />

Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Petitioner) v. M (Respondent)—That leave to<br />

appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 7th March.


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Papers<br />

6. Paper withdrawn—The following paper, presented to the House on 20th January, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Defence—Departmental Minute from the Ministry of Defence, concerning the gifting of Non-<br />

Lethal Military Equipment to Nepal.<br />

7. Command Paper—The following paper, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on 14th February, was ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Constitutional AVairs—Government Response to the House of Commons Constitutional<br />

AVairs Select Committee Report on the Implementation of the Freedom of Information Act<br />

2000. (Cm 6470)<br />

8. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following instruments, having been laid before<br />

the House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

S.I. No.<br />

Title, etc. 2005<br />

Date of Laying<br />

Negative instruments<br />

Disqualification from Working with Children (Scotland) Order 2005, 267 11th February<br />

laid under the Criminal Justice and Court Services Act 2000;<br />

Misuse of Drugs (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the 271 11th February<br />

Misuse of Drugs Act 1971;<br />

Potatoes Originating in the Netherlands (Revocation) (England) 278 11th February<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act<br />

1972;<br />

Dutch Potatoes (Notification) (England) Order 2005, laid under the 279 11th February<br />

Plant Health Act 1967;<br />

Gas Act 1986 (Exemption) (No. 2) Order 2005, laid under the Gas 280 11th February<br />

Act 1986;<br />

Electromagnetic Compatibility Regulations 2005, laid under the 281 11th February<br />

European Communities Act 1972;<br />

Anthrax Prevention Order 1971 etc. (Revocation) Regulations 2005, 228 14th February<br />

laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;<br />

Rent OYcers (Housing Benefit Functions) (Local Housing Allowance) 236 14th February<br />

Amendment Order 2005, laid under the Housing Act 1996;<br />

Housing Benefit (General) (Local Housing Allowance) Amendment 238 14th February<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security Administration<br />

Act 1992;<br />

Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (Miscellaneous 273 15th February<br />

Amendments) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security<br />

Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;<br />

Pension Protection Fund (Partially Guaranteed Schemes) 277 15th February<br />

(Modification) Regulations 2005, laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

Pension Protection Fund (Limit on Borrowing) Order 2005, laid 339 16th February<br />

under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

General Commissioners (Jurisdiction and Procedure)<br />

(i) 340 17th February<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005—<br />

Special Commissioners (Jurisdiction and Procedure)<br />

(ii) 341 17th February<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005—<br />

laid under the Taxes Management Act 1970;


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S.I. No.<br />

Title, etc. 2005<br />

Date of Laying<br />

Social Security (Industrial Injuries) (Prescribed Diseases) 324 18th February<br />

Amendment Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security<br />

Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;<br />

Legal OYcers (Annual Fees) Order 2005, laid under the Ecclesiastical 336 18th February<br />

Fees Measure 1986;<br />

Social Security, Child Support and Tax Credits (Miscellaneous 337 18th February<br />

Amendments) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security<br />

Act 1998;<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance (Miscellaneous 343 18th February<br />

Amendments) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security<br />

Administration Act 1992.<br />

Instruments not subject to parliamentary proceedings<br />

Code of Practice on the discharge of the obligations of public — 16th February<br />

authorities, laid under the Environmental Information<br />

Regulations 2004.<br />

9. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Immigration Act 1971, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. (i) Draft Firearms (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft District Policing Partnerships (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(iii) Draft Unauthorised Encampments (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;<br />

3. Draft Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

10. Regulatory Reform—The following orders were laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

1. Draft Regulatory Reform (Execution of Deeds and Documents) Order 2005, together<br />

with a Statement by the Department for Constitutional AVairs;<br />

2. Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, together with a Statement by the<br />

OYce of the Deputy Prime Minister.<br />

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Child Abduction and Custody (Falkland Islands) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Child Abduction and Custody Act 1985; (244)<br />

2. Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Posthumous Appeals) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Social Security Act 1980; (245)<br />

3. Commonwealth Countries and Ireland (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Consular Relations Act 1968; (246)<br />

4. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner Order 2005, laid under the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner<br />

Act 1967; (249)<br />

5. Health Service Commissioner for England (Special Health Authorities) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993; (251)<br />

6. Transfer of Functions (Children, Young People and Families) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Ministers of the Crown Act 1975; (252)<br />

7. Pensions (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;<br />

(255)<br />

8. Renewables Obligation Order (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 2000. (—)


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12. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2003-04 of the Independent Police Complaints Commission, laid under the<br />

Police Reform Act 2002, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel for<br />

Northern Ireland, laid under the Criminal Injuries Compensation Act 1995, together with<br />

the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

3. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Westminster Education Action Zone, laid under the School<br />

Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of the Comptroller and<br />

Auditor General;<br />

4. Code of Practice for the Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996, laid under that<br />

Act.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

13. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following report from the Select Committee was<br />

made and ordered to be printed:<br />

9th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl];<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill;<br />

Mental Capacity Bill—correspondence. (HL Paper 49)<br />

Public Business<br />

14. Identity Cards Bill—A bill to make provision for a national scheme of registration of individuals<br />

and for the issue of cards capable of being used for identifying registered individuals; to make<br />

it an oVence for a person to be in possession or control of an identity document to which he<br />

is not entitled, or of apparatus, articles or materials for making false identity documents; to<br />

amend the Consular Fees Act 1980; to make provision facilitating the verification of<br />

information provided with an application for a passport; and for connected purposes was<br />

brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 30)<br />

15. Identity Cards Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 30-EN)<br />

16. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that Standing Order<br />

47 (No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with on Tuesday next, 22nd<br />

February, to allow the Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl] to be taken through<br />

its remaining stages that day; the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that consideration<br />

of the Report of the Select Committee on Economic AVairs on Monetary and Fiscal Policy:<br />

Present Successes and Future Problems in Grand Committee today shall be limited to 3 hours;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of<br />

the Lord Goldsmith, that it be an instruction to the Grand Committee to which the<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill has been committed that they consider the bill<br />

in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 7 Clauses 35 to 50<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 4<br />

Clauses 8 to 16 Clauses 51 and 52<br />

Schedule 2 Schedule 5<br />

Clauses 17 to 34 Clauses 53 to 57;<br />

Schedule 3<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness<br />

Amos) that the bill be now read a second time; then it was moved by the Lord Smith of Clifton,<br />

as an amendment thereto, at end to insert “but this House deplores the attempt in the Bill to<br />

weaken the application of the Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Act 2002”; after debate, the<br />

amendment was (by leave of the House) withdrawn; then the original motion was agreed to<br />

and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

20. Education Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were agreed to; amendments were<br />

agreed to (see division lists 1 to 3); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)<br />

withdrawn; further consideration on report was adjourned.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.


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21. Report of the Select Committee on Economic AVairs on Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present<br />

Successes and Future Problems (3rd Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 176)—The Grand<br />

Committee reported that it had considered the Report.<br />

22. Child Trust Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005—The Grand Committee reported that it had<br />

considered the draft Regulations.<br />

23. Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order 2005—The Grand<br />

Committee reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

24. Education Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; further consideration on report<br />

was adjourned after amendment 54.<br />

The House was adjourned at six minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

EDUCATION BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Perry of Southwark, in Schedule 1, page 67, line 14, at end to insert “and<br />

a list of such additional inspectors shall be published annually”; which being objected to, the question<br />

was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 149<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 133<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B. [Teller]<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.


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Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Sharp of Guildford, in Clause 2, page 2, line 24, at end to insert “, and<br />

( ) the degree to which schools are developing rigorous internal procedures of selfevaluation”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 144<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 125


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Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B. [Teller]<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B. [Teller]<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.


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Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Lord Hanningfield, in Clause 2, page 2, line 24, at end to insert—<br />

“(g) the behaviour and discipline of pupils and levels of truancy in those schools.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 127<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 120<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B. [Teller]<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.


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Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Report of the Select Committee on Economic AVairs on Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present Successes<br />

and Future Problems (3rd Report, Session 2003-04, HL Paper 176) (3-hour debate)—It was moved<br />

by the Lord Peston that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the<br />

Report of the Select Committee on Economic AVairs on Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present<br />

Successes and Future Problems; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey<br />

that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the draft Child Trust<br />

Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005; the motion was agreed to.


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Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order 2005—It was moved by<br />

the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has<br />

considered the draft Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies)<br />

Order 2005; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at thirteen minutes before seven o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 22nd February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.


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Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Slynn of Hadley, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.


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Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Winchester, Bp.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Coventry.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Melville (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Petitioners)—The petition of the Home OYce praying<br />

for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 17th<br />

February).<br />

2. Bhamjee (Petitioner) v. Forsdick and others (Respondents) and one other action—The petition of<br />

Ismail Abdulhai Bhamjee praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited<br />

by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having<br />

been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

Papers<br />

3. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 10th January 2005,<br />

was withdrawn:<br />

Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2005.<br />

4. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Pay Review Bodies—Fourteenth Report of the School Teachers’ Review Body; (6430)<br />

2. Pay Review Bodies—Twenty-Seventh Report of the Review Body on Senior Salaries;<br />

(6451)<br />

3. Pay Review Bodies—Thirty-Fourth Report of the Armed Forces’ Pay Review Body;<br />

(6455)<br />

4. Pay Review Bodies—Thirty-Fourth Report of the Review Body on Doctors’ and<br />

Dentists’ Remuneration; (6463)<br />

5. Pay Review Bodies—Fourth Report of the Prison Service Pay Review Body (England<br />

and Wales); (6478)<br />

6. Honours System—Reform of the Honours System: Government Response to the reports<br />

of the House of Commons Public Administration Select Committee and Sir Hayden<br />

Phillips; (6479)<br />

7. Police—Foreign and Commonwealth OYce Departmental Minute concerning the gifting<br />

of body armour to Iranian Anti-Narcotics Police. (—)<br />

5. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Draft Water Supply (Fluoridation Indemnities) (England) Regulations 2005,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Water Fluoridation (Consultation) (England) Regulations 2005, together with<br />

an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Water Industry Act 1991;<br />

2. Draft Public Processions (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Northern Ireland Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. Draft Employment Zones (Allocation to Contractors) Pilot Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Jobseekers Act 1995, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.


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6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Licensing Act 2003 (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Licensing Act<br />

2003; (357)<br />

2. Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules, laid under the Immigration Act 1971. (—)<br />

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report for 2004 Reviewing the Operation of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act<br />

2001, laid under that Act;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Policing Board (Board Grant) together<br />

with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Police (Northern<br />

Ireland) Act 2000;<br />

3. (i) Treasury Minute directing the application of certain amounts as Appropriations in<br />

Aid of the Estimates for 2003–04—<br />

(ii) Treasury Minute directing the application of certain amounts as Appropriations in<br />

Aid of the Estimates for 2004–05—<br />

laid under the Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

8. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The 10th Report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 50)<br />

9. European Union—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to<br />

be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence:<br />

Developments in the European Union: Evidence from the Ambassador of the Grand Duchy<br />

of Luxembourg and the European <strong>Parliament</strong>’s Constitutional AVairs Committee; (3rd<br />

Report-HL Paper 51)<br />

Liberalising Rail Freight Movement in the EU; (4th Report-HL Paper 52)<br />

After Madrid: the EU’s response to terrorism. (5th Report-HL Paper 53)<br />

10. Statutory Instruments—The 9th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (Continuance in force of sections 21<br />

to 23) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Child Trust Funds (Appeals) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Child Trust Funds (Appeals) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Draft New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiative) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection Provisions)<br />

Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Relaxation of Restriction on Disclosure) Order<br />

2005;<br />

Draft Renewables Obligation Order 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Child Trust Funds) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications and Deemed Applications)<br />

(Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 54)


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Public Business<br />

11. Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Bill—A bill to amend section 6 of the Crime and<br />

Disorder Act 1998; to make provision for the gating of certain minor highways; to make<br />

provision in relation to vehicles parked on roads that are exposed for sale or being repaired;<br />

to make provision in relation to abandoned vehicles and the removal and disposal of vehicles;<br />

to make provision relating to litter and refuse, graYti, fly-posting and the display of<br />

advertisements; to make provision relating to the transportation, collection, disposal and<br />

management of waste; to make provision relating to the control of dogs and to amend the law<br />

relating to stray dogs; to make provision in relation to noise; to provide for the Commission<br />

for Architecture and the Built Environment and for the making of grants relating to the<br />

quality of the built environment; to amend the law relating to abandoned shopping and<br />

luggage trolleys; to amend the law relating to statutory nuisances; to amend section 78L of the<br />

Environmental Protection Act 1990; to amend the law relating to oVences under Schedule 1<br />

to the Pollution Prevention and Control Act 1999; and for connected purposes was brought<br />

from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 31)<br />

12. Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating<br />

to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 31-EN)<br />

13. Child Trust Funds (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of<br />

Haringey that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 21st December 2004 be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order 2005—It was<br />

moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 31st<br />

January be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Mental Capacity Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that the amendments<br />

for the Report stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 9 Clauses 60 to 62<br />

Schedule 1 Schedules 4 and 5<br />

Clauses 10 to 18 Clause 63<br />

Schedule 2 Schedules 6 and 7<br />

Clauses 19 to 59 Clauses 64 and 65;<br />

Schedule 3<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee<br />

upon the bill; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an<br />

amendment was disagreed to (see division list); the House was resumed and the bill was<br />

reported without amendment.<br />

17. Gambling Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the bill be now read a second<br />

time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the<br />

Whole House.<br />

18. Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl]—The report was received; then, Standing Order<br />

47 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the<br />

Commons.<br />

The House was adjourned at three minutes before ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISION<br />

ELECTORAL REGISTRATION (NORTHERN IRELAND) BILL [HL]<br />

It was moved by the Lord Shutt of Greetland, after Clause 2, to insert the new Clause (Rolling<br />

registration); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 61<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 140<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glentoran, L. [Teller]<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.


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Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


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APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was<br />

adjourned after clause 10 stood part.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Wednesday 23rd February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

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Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nickson, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

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Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Coventry.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. A and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) (2004)<br />

(England)—The appeal of A, B, E, F, G, H, Mahmoud Abu Rideh and Jamal Ajouaou was<br />

presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and<br />

appendix thereto be lodged on or before 6th April.<br />

2. A and others (Appellants) (FC) and others v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent) (England)—The appeal of C and D was presented and it was ordered that in<br />

accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before<br />

6th April.<br />

3. Connex South Eastern Limited (Petitioners) v. Bangs (Respondent)—The petition of Connex<br />

South Eastern Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

4. CV Scheepvaartonderneming Flintermar (Respondents) v. Sea Malta Company Limited<br />

(Petitioners)—The petition of Sea Malta Company Limited praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Szoma (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions<br />

(Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

6. R v. Olditch (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. O (Appellant))—<br />

7. R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. P (Appellant))—<br />

8. R v. Jones (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R v.<br />

J (Appellant))—<br />

9. R v. Milling (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. M (Appellant))—<br />

10. R v. Richards (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. R (Appellant))—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined, that they be allowed to<br />

lodge one statement, one appendix and one case; that Olditch and Pritchard be jointly<br />

represented and Jones, Milling and Richards be jointly represented and that the respondent<br />

have leave to lodge one case in respect of the appeals (the agents for the respondent consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

11. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Law Commission—Report on Unfair Terms in Contracts; (6464)<br />

2. European Union—Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European<br />

Communities and Ukraine on Customs Matters; (6473)<br />

3. Education—14-19 Education and Skills: Government Proposals; (6476)<br />

4. Foreign AVairs—Exchange of Notes between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and the Russian<br />

Federation concerning the Commercialisation of Sites in London and Moscow. (6477)<br />

12. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the Pensions Appeal Tribunals Act 1943, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Community Legal Service (Asylum and Immigration Appeals) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Nationality Immigration and Asylum Act 2002, together with an<br />

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3. Draft Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Local Government and Finance Act 1988, together with<br />

an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3 Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Extradition Act 2003, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Immigration Services Commissioner (Designated Professional Body) (Fees) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999; (348)<br />

2. Airport Byelaws (Designation) Order 2005, laid under the Airports Act 1986; (354)<br />

3. Restriction on Agreements (Manufacturers and Importers of Motor Cars) (Revocation)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Fair Trading Act 1973; (355)<br />

4. Statutory Maternity Pay (General) and the Statutory Paternity Pay and Statutory<br />

Adoption Pay (General) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security<br />

Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (358)<br />

5. Salmonella in Laying Flocks (Survey Powers) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

European Communities Act 1972; (359)<br />

6. Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Designated Activities) (Revocation) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Private Security Industry Act 2001; (361)<br />

7. Awards for All (England) Joint Scheme (Authorisation) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

National Lottery etc. Act 1993. (374)<br />

14. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 1st April 2004 to 9th January 2005 of the Withernsea and Southern<br />

Holderness Education Action Zones, laid under the School Standards and Framework<br />

Act 1998, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

2. Accounts for 1st April 2004 to 5th September 2004 of the Greenwich Education Action<br />

Zone, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the<br />

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

3. Accounts for 1st April 2004 to 30th November 2004 of the following Education Action<br />

Zones, together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

(i) Derby North East—<br />

(ii) North Islington—<br />

(iii) Telford and Wrekin—<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;<br />

4. Accounts for 1st April 2004 to 31st December 2004 of the following Education Action<br />

Zones, together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

(i) Easington and Seaham—<br />

(ii) Stoke—<br />

(iii) Sunderland—<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998.<br />

15. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House<br />

that he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,<br />

notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid before<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

Legal OYcers (Annual Fees) Order 2005. (336)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

16. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

10th Report, on the following bill:<br />

Railways Bill—including Government amendments for Committee Stage; (HL Paper<br />

58)<br />

11th Report, on the following bill:<br />

Gambling Bill. (HL Paper 59)


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17. Human Rights—The following Reports from the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed:<br />

Scrutiny: Fourth Progress Report, together with appendices; (8th Report—HL Paper 60)<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill: Preliminary Report. (9th Report—HL Paper 61)<br />

Public Business<br />

18. Drugs Bill—A bill to make provision in connection with controlled drugs and for the making of<br />

orders to supplement anti-social behaviour orders in cases where behaviour is aVected by drug<br />

misuse or other prescribed factors was brought from the Commons, read a first time and<br />

ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 32)<br />

19. Drugs Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill<br />

32-EN)<br />

20. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debate on<br />

the motion in the name of the Lord Waddington set down for today shall be limited to 3°<br />

hours and that in the name of the Lord Marlesford to 1° hours; the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Immigration and asylum (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Waddington that there be<br />

laid before the House papers relating to immigration and asylum controls for the maintenance<br />

of good race relations, national security and the provision of public services; after debate, the<br />

motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

22. OYcial statistics (1°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Marlesford that there be laid before<br />

the House papers relating to the adequacy of oYcial statistics for the determination of policy;<br />

after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

23. Climate change (EUC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Renton of Mount Harry that this<br />

House takes note of the Report of the European Union Committee on The EU and Climate<br />

Change (30th Report, Session 2003–04, HL Paper 179); after debate, the motion was agreed<br />

to.<br />

The House was adjourned at six minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after<br />

amendment 97.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at half-past seven o’clock.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Thursday 24th February 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

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Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carnegy of Lour, B.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.


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Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Coventry.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Secretary of State for Education and Employment and others (Respondents) ex parte<br />

Williamson (Appellant) and others—It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the<br />

23rd Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was<br />

ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 12th December 2002 be<br />

aYrmed and the appeal dismissed; and that the question of costs be adjourned in order that<br />

the parties may make written submissions within 14 days, the amount thereof to be certified<br />

by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 15<br />

2. Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (Respondent) v. Rutherford and another (FC)<br />

(Appellants) and others (England)—The appeal of John Dennis Rutherford and Samuel<br />

Bentley was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the<br />

statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 7th April.<br />

3. Jackson and others (Petitioners) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent)—The petition<br />

of John Bernard Haysom Jackson, Patrick Douglas Martin and Harriet Mair Hughes praying<br />

for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Maguire (personal representative of the estate of Teresa Maguire, deceased) (Petitioner) v. Harland<br />

& WolV plc and others (Respondents)—The petition of James Maguire praying for leave to<br />

appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Ahmad (Petitioner) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents)— The<br />

petition of Musabbir Ahmad praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited<br />

by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having<br />

been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was<br />

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6. In re D (a child appearing by her guardian ad litem) (Respondent) (FC)—The appeal was set down<br />

for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 23rd February).<br />

7. McFarlane (Appellant) v. McFarlane (Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing and<br />

referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 23rd February).<br />

8. R v. Olditch (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. O (Appellant))—<br />

9. R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. P (Appellant))—<br />

10. R v. Jones (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R v.<br />

J (Appellant))—<br />

11. R v. Milling (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. M (Appellant))—<br />

12. R v. Richards (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. R (Appellant))—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

13. R v. Jones (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. J (Respondent))—<br />

14. R v. Milling (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. M (Respondent))—<br />

15. R v. Olditch (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. O (Respondent))—<br />

16. R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. P (Respondent))—<br />

17. R v. Richards (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. R (Respondent))—<br />

(Consolidated Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

18. Autologic Holdings plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

19. BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

20. The Future Network plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

21. Perkins Engines Company Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

22. HJ Heinz Company Inc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

23. British Telecommunications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix<br />

and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th March next (the agents for<br />

the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


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24. Appeal Committee—The 28th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Speed Investments Limited and others (Respondents) v. Formula One Holdings Limited and<br />

others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to<br />

apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that<br />

the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.<br />

Clays Lane Housing Co-operative Limited (Petitioners) v. Housing Corporation<br />

(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply<br />

for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Law Society (Respondents) v. Sephton & Co (a firm) (Petitioners) and another and others<br />

(Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 10th<br />

March next.<br />

7 Strathray Gardens Limited (Petitioners) v. Pointstar Shipping & Finance Limited and others<br />

(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply<br />

for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the<br />

amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

25. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 3rd February 2005,<br />

was withdrawn:<br />

Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) (Amendment) Rules 2005.<br />

26. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations—A More Secure World: our Shared Responsibility. (6449)<br />

27. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Opticians Act 1989 (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Health Act 1999,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

3. Draft Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum;<br />

4. Draft Companies Act 1989 (Delegation) Order 2005, laid under the Companies Act 1989,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

28. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Police Act 1997 (Criminal Records) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Police Act 1997; (347)<br />

2.(i) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Market Abuse) Regulations 2005—(381)<br />

(ii) Investment Recommendation (Media) Regulations 2005— (382)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

29. Stipends (Cessation of Special Payments) Measure—The Measure and the 219th Report thereon<br />

of the Ecclesiastical Committee were laid before the House (pursuant to section 4 of the<br />

Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919) and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 55<br />

and 55-I)<br />

30. Care of Cathedrals (Amendment) Measure—The Measure and the 220th Report thereon of the<br />

Ecclesiastical Committee were laid before the House (pursuant to section 4 of the Church of<br />

England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919) and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 56 and 56-I)


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31. Church of England (Miscellaneous Provisions) Measure—The Measure and the 221st Report<br />

thereon of the Ecclesiastical Committee were laid before the House (pursuant to section 4 of<br />

the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919) and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper<br />

57 and 57-I)<br />

Public Business<br />

32. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that leave be given<br />

to advance the Third Reading of the Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl] from<br />

Thursday 3rd March to Wednesday 2nd March; the motion was agreed to.<br />

33. Railways Bill—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that it be an instruction to the Grand<br />

Committee to which the Railways Bill has been committed that they consider the bill in the<br />

following order:<br />

Clause 1 Clauses 23 to 25<br />

Schedules 1 and 2 Schedule 8<br />

Clause 2 Clauses 26 to 45<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 9<br />

Clauses 3 and 4 Clauses 46 to 52<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 10<br />

Clauses 5 to 19 Clause 53<br />

Schedule 5 Schedule 11<br />

Clauses 20 and 21 Clauses 54 to 58<br />

Schedule 6 Schedules 12 and 13<br />

Clause 22 Clause 59;<br />

Schedule 7<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

34. Pension Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

35. Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

36. Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the draft Regulations be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

37. Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection Provisions) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Regulations be<br />

referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

38. Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

39. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner (Amendment) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.<br />

40. Education Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed<br />

to (see division lists 1 and 2); further consideration on report was adjourned.<br />

41. Licensing Act 2003 (Fees) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord Clement-Jones that an<br />

Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that the Regulations, laid before the<br />

House on 20th January, be annulled (S.I. 2005/79); after debate, the motion was (by leave of<br />

the House) withdrawn.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

42. Education Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be<br />

printed as amended. (HL Bill 33)<br />

43. Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons<br />

agreed to.<br />

44. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Lord Brougham and Vaux) notified the Queen’s Assent to the<br />

following Act:<br />

Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland) Act c. 1<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-three minutes before seven o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.


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DIVISIONS<br />

EDUCATION BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Morris of Bolton to leave out Clause 66; which being objected to, the<br />

question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 94<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 105<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B. [Teller]<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Maxton, L.


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2005<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Hanningfield, after Clause 69, to insert the new Clause (Abolition of<br />

Independent Appeals Panels); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the<br />

House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 54<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 141<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B. [Teller]<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.


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Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at a quarter past three o’clock.<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The bill was further considered in the Grand<br />

Committee; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the<br />

Committee was adjourned after amendment 47.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at one minute past seven o’clock.<br />

Monday 28th February 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell of Croy, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

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Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hutton, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

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Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Derby.<br />

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Tuesday 1st March.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Standard Commercial Property Securities Limited and others (Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council (Appellants) (Scotland)—The appeal of Glasgow City Council was presented and it<br />

was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto<br />

be lodged on or before 11th April.<br />

3. Kinane (Respondent) v. Mackie-Conteh (Petitioner) and others—The petition of Alimamy<br />

Mackie-Conteh praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

4. Osmani (FC) (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Camden (Respondents)—The petition of Naser<br />

Osmani praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order<br />

II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate<br />

of public funding was lodged.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Command Paper—The following paper, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the date shown, was ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Pay—Report on the National Minimum Wage for 2005 of the Low Pay Commission. (25th<br />

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6. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following statutory instruments, having been<br />

laid before the House on 25th February, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Income-related Benefits (Subsidy to Authorities) Amendment Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Social Security Administration Act 1992; (369)<br />

2. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Borough of Thurrock)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (370)<br />

3. Electricity (Fuel Mix Disclosure) Regulations 2005, laid under the European<br />

Communities Act 1972; (391)<br />

4. Sea Fishing (Restriction on Days at Sea) Order 2005, laid under the Fisheries Act 1981.<br />

(393)<br />

7. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Remand in Custody (EVect of Concurrent and Consecutive Sentences of Imprisonment)<br />

Rules 2005, laid under the Criminal Justice Act 2003, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum.<br />

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Education (Information as to Provision of Education) (England) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Education Act 1996; (346)<br />

2. Civil Procedure (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the Civil Procedure Act 1997;<br />

(352)<br />

3. (i) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Coventry)<br />

Order 2005— (378)<br />

(ii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Borough of<br />

Torbay) Order 2005— (387)<br />

(iii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Surrey)<br />

(Borough of Epsom and Ewell) Order 2005— (388)<br />

laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991;<br />

4. Tractor etc (EC Type-Approval) Regulations 2005, laid under the European<br />

Communities Act 1972. (390)<br />

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 1st April 2004 to 9th January 2005 of the Peterlee Education Action Zone,<br />

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the Report of<br />

the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

2. Accounts for 1st April 2004 to 30th November 2004 of the Southend Education Action<br />

Zone, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998, together with the<br />

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

3. Accounts for 2003–04 of the National Biological Standards Board, laid under the<br />

Biological Standards Act 1975, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General;<br />

4. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Imperial War Museum, laid under the Museums and<br />

Galleries Act 1992, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

5. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Marine and Aviation Insurance (War Risks) Fund, laid<br />

under the Marine and Aviation (War Risks) Act 1952, together with the Report of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

6. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Severn Bridge, laid under the Severn Bridges Act 1992,<br />

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

10. European Union—The 6th Report from the Select Committee, The Future Financing of the<br />

European Union, was made and ordered to be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence.<br />

(HL Paper 62)<br />

11. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following report from the Select Committee was<br />

made and ordered to be printed:<br />

12th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill;<br />

Gambling Bill—Government response. (HL Paper 63)


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Public Business<br />

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the following<br />

Unstarred Question be referred to a Grand Committee—<br />

The Earl Attlee—To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether, in order to reduce tax and<br />

duty evasion, H M Customs and Excise have determined the feasibility of requiring all<br />

heavy goods vehicles leaving Great Britain to do so with a nearly full tank of fuel;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. International Organisations Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; a privilege amendment was<br />

agreed to and, after debate, the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

14. Inquiries Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to (see division lists<br />

1 and 2); amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)<br />

withdrawn; an amendment was moved and, on question, tellers for the Contents not having<br />

been appointed, the amendment was disagreed to pursuant to Standing Order 54; a privilege<br />

amendment was agreed to; the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

15. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The Queen’s consent was signified; the bill was read a third<br />

time; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)<br />

withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); a privilege amendment was<br />

agreed to; the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

16. Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Baroness<br />

Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 2nd February be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers’ Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before<br />

the House on 26th January be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Social Security (Inherited SERPS) (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 31st January<br />

be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Social Security (Intensive Activity Period 50 to 59 Pilot) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 2nd February<br />

be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Social Security (Intensive Activity Period 50 to 59 Pilot) (No. 2) Regulations 2005—It was moved<br />

by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 2nd<br />

February be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Tax Credits Up-rating Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that<br />

the draft Regulations laid before the House on 31st January be approved; after debate, the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 31st January be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved<br />

by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 31st January<br />

be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes before nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

INQURIES BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, after Clause 6, to insert the new Clause (Inquiries where ministerial<br />

misconduct in issue); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 137<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 130<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

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Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

[Teller]<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.


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Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Goodhart, in Clause 10, page 4, line 14, to leave out “first consult” and insert<br />

“obtain the consent to that appointment of”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon,<br />

and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 149<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 131<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hutton, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.


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Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

[Teller]<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Lord Higgins, as an amendment to amendment 6, in line 4, to leave out from<br />

“vehicle” to end of line 6; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House<br />

divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 118<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 122


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Addington, L. [Teller]<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

[Teller]<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.


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McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Railways Bill—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after clause 4 stood part.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-three minutes before eight o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 1st March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Briggs, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.


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Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flowers, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

HoVmann, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leicester, Bp.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levene of Portsoken, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newcastle, Bp.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.


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Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Derby.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. R v. May (Petitioner)—The petition of Raymond George May praying for leave to appeal in<br />

accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

2. College of Estate Management (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 13th<br />

April (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered<br />

as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

3. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Community Interest Company Regulations 2005, laid under the Companies (Audit,<br />

Investigations and Community Enterprise) Act 2004, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum.


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4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Plastic Materials and Articles in Contact with Food (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (325)<br />

2. (i) General Medical Council (Registration Appeals Panels Procedure) Rules Order of<br />

Council 2005— (400)<br />

(ii) General Medical Council (Fraud or Error in relation to Registration) Rules Order of<br />

Council 2005— (401)<br />

(iii) General Medical Council (Constitution of Panels and Investigation Committee)<br />

(Amendment) Rules Order of Council 2005— (402)<br />

laid under the Medical Act 1983;<br />

3. Production of Bovine Collagen Intended for Human Consumption in the <strong>United</strong><br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

(404)<br />

4. Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 (Continuance of OYce of Commissioner) Order 2005,<br />

laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000. (—)<br />

5. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report of a Call-Out Order of Members of the Reserve Forces, laid under the Reserve Forces<br />

Act 1996.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

6. Statutory Instruments—The 10th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Courts Act 2003 (Consequential Provisions) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Employment Zones (Allocation to Contractors) Pilot Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Carrying on Regulated Activities by<br />

Way of Business) (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-<br />

Seekers) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Opticians Act 1989 (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Water Fluoridation (Consultation) (England) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Water Supply (Fluoridation Indemnities) (England) Regulations 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 64)<br />

7. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The 11th Report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

11th Report, on the following aYrmative instrument:<br />

Draft Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications and Deemed Applications)<br />

(Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005;<br />

and on the following negative instrument:<br />

Town and Country Planning (Temporary Stop Notice) (England) Regulations<br />

2005. (HL Paper 67)<br />

Private Business<br />

8. Midland Metro (Wednesbury to Brierley Hill and Miscellaneous Amendments) Order 2005—The<br />

Report by the Chairman of Committees and the Chairman of Ways and Means in the House<br />

of Commons pursuant to section 3(5) of the Statutory Orders (Special Procedure) Act 1945,<br />

that no Petitions had been presented against the Midland Metro (Wednesbury to Brierley Hill<br />

and Miscellaneous Amendments) Order 2005, was laid before the House and ordered to lie on<br />

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Public Business<br />

9. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—A bill to provide for the making against individuals involved in<br />

terrorism-related activity of orders imposing obligations on them for purposes connected with<br />

preventing or restricting their further involvement in such activity; to make provision about<br />

appeals and other proceedings relating to such orders; and for connected purposes, having<br />

been brought from the Commons on Monday 28th February and printed pursuant to<br />

Standing Order 51, was read a first time. (HL Bill 34)<br />

10. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The Explanatory Notes relating to the bill were printed pursuant to<br />

Standing Order 51. (HL Bill 34-EN)<br />

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that Standing Order<br />

47 (No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with today to allow the<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill to be read a second time; the motion was agreed to.<br />

12. Gambling Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that it be an instruction to the<br />

Committee of the Whole House to which the Gambling Bill has been committed that they<br />

consider the bill in the following order:<br />

Clauses 1 to 11 Clauses 174 to 241<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 10<br />

Clauses 12 to 14 Clauses 242 to 252<br />

Schedule 2 Schedule 11<br />

Clause 15 Clauses 253 to 269<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 12<br />

Clauses 16 to 20 Clauses 270 to 278<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 13<br />

Clause 21 Clauses 279 to 284<br />

Schedule 5 Schedule 14<br />

Clauses 22 to 29 Clauses 285 to 290<br />

Schedule 6 Schedule 15<br />

Clauses 30 to 124 Clauses 291 to 349<br />

Schedule 7 Schedules 16 and 17<br />

Clauses 125 to 138 Clauses 350 to 351<br />

Schedule 8 Schedule 18<br />

Clauses 139 to 173 Clauses 352 and 353;<br />

Schedule 9<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton, on behalf of the<br />

Baroness Scotland of Asthal, that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion<br />

was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

14. Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005—The Grand Committee reported that<br />

it had considered the draft Order.<br />

15. Pension Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005—The Grand Committee reported that<br />

it had considered the draft Order.<br />

16. Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005—The Grand Committee<br />

reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

17. Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection Provisions) Regulations<br />

2005—The Grand Committee reported that it had considered the draft Regulations.<br />

18. Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005—The Grand Committee reported that<br />

it had considered the draft Regulations.<br />

19. Regulatory Reform (Prison OYcers) (Industrial Action) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Bassam of Brighton, on behalf of the Baroness Scotland of Asthal, that the draft Regulatory<br />

Reform Order laid before the House on 17th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Triesman, on<br />

behalf of the Lord Filkin, that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered<br />

the draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was<br />

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Pension Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of<br />

Heigham that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the draft Pension<br />

Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness<br />

Hollis of Heigham that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the<br />

draft Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005; the motion was agreed<br />

to.<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection Provisions) Regulations 2005—It<br />

was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the Grand Committee do report to the House<br />

that it has considered the draft Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection<br />

Provisions) Regulations 2005; the motion was agreed to.<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of<br />

Heigham that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the draft<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005; the motion was agreed to.<br />

H M Customs and Excise: heavy goods vehicles—The Earl Attlee asked Her Majesty’s Government<br />

whether, in order to reduce tax and duty evasion, H M Customs and Excise have determined the<br />

feasibility of requiring all heavy goods vehicles leaving Great Britain to do so with a nearly full tank<br />

of fuel; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Davies of Oldham.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-three minutes before six o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 2nd March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.


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Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

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Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Highbury, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Derby.<br />

1. Barony of Burnham in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Petition of Harry Frederick Alan<br />

Lawson claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Burnham in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong><br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> and praying that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter the<br />

petitioner as the Lord Burnham on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing<br />

Order 10(5) was presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report<br />

upon to the House pursuant to Standing Order 11.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. R (on the application of Hammond) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Appellant) (England)—The appeal of the Secretary of State for the Home Department was<br />

presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and<br />

appendix thereto be lodged on or before 13th April.<br />

3. Standard Commercial Property Securities Limited and others (Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council and others (Appellants) (Scotland)—The appeal of Atlas Investments Limited was<br />

presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and<br />

appendix thereto be lodged on or before 13th April.<br />

4. Jameel and others (Respondents) v. Wall Street Journal Europe Sprl (Petitioners)—The petition<br />

of Wall Street Journal Europe Sprl praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—The petition of Roger Smith, Director<br />

of Justice for and on behalf of the Executive Board and Members of Justice and Justice<br />

praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

6. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The appeal was set down for<br />

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7. Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (Respondent) v. Rutherford and another (FC)<br />

(Appellants) and others—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the<br />

appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

8. Appeal Committee—The 29th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth Court (Respondents) ex parte Director of Public<br />

Prosecutions (Respondent) (AE and another (by her mother and litigation friend) (FC)<br />

(Petitioner) (Interested parties))—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of the<br />

petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999.<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth Court (Respondents) ex parte N (a minor) (by his mother<br />

and litigation friend) (FC) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of<br />

the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999.<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth Court (Respondents) ex parte Director of Public<br />

Prosecutions (Respondent) (I (by his litigation friend) (FC) (Petitioner) (Interested party))—<br />

That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with<br />

the Access to Justice Act 1999.<br />

Papers<br />

9. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Media—<br />

(i) Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Culture, Media and<br />

Sport Select Committee on a public BBC; (6474)<br />

(ii) Review of the BBC’s Royal Charter: A strong BBC, independent of government:<br />

Government Consultation Document; (—)<br />

2. Cultural Activities—Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and Armenia on the<br />

Establishment and Activities of Cultural Centres; (6480)<br />

3. Human Rights—European Agreement relating to Persons Participating in Proceedings<br />

of the European Court of Human Rights. (6482)<br />

10. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Draft Restriction on the Preparation of Adoption Reports Regulations 2005,<br />

together with an Explanatory Memorandum—<br />

(ii) Draft Suitability of Adopters Regulations 2005, together with an Explanatory<br />

Memorandum—<br />

laid under the Adoption and Children Act 2002;<br />

2. Draft Local Government (Northern Ireland) Order 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Virgin West Coast Class 390) Exemption Order 2005—<br />

(329)<br />

(ii) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Croydon Tramlink Class CR4000 Vehicles) Exemption<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005— (395)<br />

laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995;<br />

2. (i) Adoption Agencies Regulations 2005— (389)<br />

(ii) Adoptions with a Foreign Element Regulations 2005— (392)<br />

laid under the Adoption and Children Act 2002;


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3. Family Proceedings (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005, laid under the Matrimonial and<br />

Family Proceedings Act 1984; (412)<br />

4. Family Proceedings Courts (Children Act 1989) (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005, laid<br />

under the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980; (413)<br />

5. Environmental Protection (Waste Recycling Payments) (England) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990; (415)<br />

6. Crime (International Co-operation) Act 2003 (Exercise of Functions) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Crime (International Co-operation) Act 2003; (425)<br />

7. Pension Protection Fund (Multi-employer Schemes) (Modification) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004. (441)<br />

12. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report for 2003–04 of the StaV Commission for Education and Library Boards, laid under the<br />

Northern Ireland Act 2000.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

13. Constitution Committee—The following reports from the Select Committee were made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

2nd Report, on the Prevention of Terrorism Bill; (HL Paper 66)<br />

3rd Report, on the Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill. (HL Paper 65)<br />

14. Human Rights—The following reports from the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed:<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill, together with an appendix. (10th Report-HL Paper 68)<br />

Government Response to the Third Report from the Joint Committee, Deaths in Custody,<br />

together with an appendix. (11th Report-HL Paper 69)<br />

15. Refreshment—The First Report of the Refreshment Committee was made and ordered to be<br />

printed (see appendix 2). (HL Paper 70)<br />

Public Business<br />

16. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to with<br />

amendments and with a privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commons amendments<br />

be printed. (HL Bill 35)<br />

17. Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill, Draft—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that<br />

the Baroness Morgan of Drefelin be appointed a member of the Select Committee in place of<br />

the Baroness Massey of Darwen; the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. BBC Charter—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee be<br />

appointed to consider and report on the review of the BBC Charter;<br />

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the<br />

Committee:<br />

L. Armstrong of Ilminster L. Kalms<br />

B. Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury L. King of Bridgwater<br />

L. Fowler (Chairman) Bp. Manchester<br />

B. Gibson of Market Rasen L. Maxton<br />

L. Holme of Cheltenham L. Peston<br />

B. Howe of Idlicote B. O’Neill of Bengarve;<br />

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;<br />

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;<br />

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the<br />

Committee think fit, be printed;<br />

That the Committee do meet on Tuesday 8th March;<br />

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19. Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Triesman,<br />

on behalf of the Lord Filkin, that the draft Order laid before the House on 10th January be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Pension Protection Fund (PPF Ombudsman) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis<br />

of Heigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 31st January be approved; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 31st January be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Occupational Pension Schemes (Modification of Pension Protection Provisions) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before<br />

the House on 9th February be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis<br />

of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 9th February be approved;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

24. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; a privilege<br />

amendment was agreed to and the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

25. Education Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to; amendments were<br />

agreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)<br />

withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); a privilege amendment was<br />

agreed to; then the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.<br />

26. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee<br />

without amendment.<br />

27. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 20th January<br />

be approved; then it was moved by the Lord Smith of Clifton, as an amendment thereto, at<br />

end to insert “but this House regrets that Her Majesty’s Government did not take full account<br />

of the concerns expressed by the Electoral Commission about polling for more than one<br />

election using diVerent voting systems taking place on the same day”; after debate, the<br />

amendment was (by leave of the House) withdrawn; then the original motion was agreed to.<br />

28. Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington<br />

of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 3rd February be approved; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

29. District Policing Partnerships (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 21st February be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

30. Special Educational Needs and Disability (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 9th February<br />

be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

31. Gangmasters (Licensing Authority) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the<br />

draft Regulations laid before the House on 26th January be approved; after debate, the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

32. Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment Scheme (Set-aside) (England) Regulations 2004—It<br />

was moved by the Baroness Byford to resolve that this House calls on Her Majesty’s<br />

Government to revoke the Regulations laid before the House on 21st December 2004 (S.I.<br />

2004/3385); after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

33. South-west Territorial Waters (Prohibition of Pair Trawling) Order 2004—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Wilcox to resolve that this House calls on Her Majesty’s Government to revoke the<br />

Order laid before the House on 23rd December 2004 (S.I. 2004/3397); after debate, the motion<br />

was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

34. Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature Conservation Committee) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Whitty that the draft Regulatory Reform Order laid before the House on 24th January<br />

be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business


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DIVISIONS<br />

EDUCATION BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Morris of Bolton, after Clause 69, to insert the new Clause (Closure of<br />

rural primary schools); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 138<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 136<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E. [Teller]<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.


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Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Hanningfield, after Clause 70, to insert the new Clause (Closure of special<br />

schools: statutory consultation); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the<br />

House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 148<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 126<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.


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Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B. [Teller]<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.


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Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Walmsley, after Clause 114, to insert the new Clause (Requirements to be<br />

registered); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 119<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 125<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B. [Teller]<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.


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Dearing, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX 1<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The bill was further considered in the Grand<br />

Committee; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was<br />

ordered that the bill be reported without amendment.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at ten minutes before six o’clock.


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2005 3rd March<br />

249<br />

Thursday 3rd March 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Briggs, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carey of Clifton, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Derby, Bp.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

HoVmann, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.


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Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

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Warnock, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Derby.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Hinchy (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Appellant)— It was moved by<br />

the Lord HoVmann, That the 24th Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the<br />

motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of<br />

20th February 2003 be set aside save as to costs and the Decision of the Social Security<br />

Commissioner Mr Patrick Howell QC of 3rd May 2002 restored; and that the appellant do<br />

pay to the respondent her costs in this House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 16<br />

2. Akumah (FC) (Appellant) v. London Borough of Hackney (Respondents)— It was moved by the<br />

Lord HoVmann, That the 25th Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the<br />

motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of<br />

17th April 2002 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs; that the amounts thereof, if<br />

any, to be paid by the appellant and to be paid out of the Community Legal Service Fund be<br />

certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s in accordance with section 11 of the Access to Justice<br />

Act 1999; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed in accordance with the<br />

Access to Justice Act 1999. [2005] UKHL 17<br />

3. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Appellant) v. M (Respondent) (England)— The appeal<br />

of the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions was presented and it was ordered that in<br />

accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before<br />

14th April.<br />

4. In re W (children)— The petition of the father praying for leave to appeal was presented without<br />

payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to<br />

Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 21st February, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005.<br />

6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Hong Kong—Six-monthly Report on Hong Kong July—December 2004. (6484)<br />

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. New Forest National Park Authority (Establishment) Order 2005, laid under the Town<br />

and Country Planning Act 1990; (421)<br />

2. Pesticides (Maximum Residue Levels in Crops, Food and Feeding StuVs) (England and<br />

Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

(432)<br />

3. Employment Tribunals (Constitution and Rules of Procedure) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Employment Tribunals Act 1996. (435)<br />

Public Business<br />

8. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner (Amendment) Bill [hl]— The bill was read a third time and passed<br />

and sent to the Commons.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

9. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; it was<br />

moved by the Lord Peyton of Yeovil that the House be resumed; after debate, the motion was<br />

(by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was moved; an amendment thereto<br />

was moved and a debate thereon having arisen, further debate was adjourned and the House<br />

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10. Child Benefit Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the bill be now read a<br />

second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Grand<br />

Committee.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

11. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

further debate on an amendment to an amendment was resumed; the amendment to the<br />

amendment was (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; then the original amendment was<br />

agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments<br />

were agreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 46.<br />

12. Data Protection (Subject Access Modification) (Social Work) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Triesman that the draft Order laid before the House on 26th January be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes past seven o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at a quarter past three o’clock.<br />

Railways Bill—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after clause 33<br />

stood part.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at two minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

Monday 7th March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Briggs, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

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Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

McFarlane of LlandaV, B.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

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Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Portsmouth.<br />

1. Lord Sheppard of Liverpool—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that Lord Sheppard of<br />

Liverpool, a member of the House, had died on 5th March 2005.<br />

2. Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the Baroness Jeger for the<br />

remainder of this <strong>Parliament</strong>.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

3. MH (by her litigation friend, OYcial Solicitor) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Department of Health (Appellant) and others (England)— The appeal of the Secretary of<br />

State for the Department of Health was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 18th April.<br />

4. McCarroll (Petitioner) v. Statham Gill Davies (a firm) (Respondents)— The petition of Anthony<br />

McCarroll praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.


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5. Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Group plc (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue and another (Petitioners)— The petition of Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue and Her Majesty’s Attorney General praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 4th March).<br />

6. Brunt and others (Petitioners) v. Southampton International Airport Limited (Respondents)—<br />

The petition of Nigel Richard Pierce Brunt, Viscount Chilston, John Dudley Harding, Ian<br />

Richard McKellen Parker, Timothy Roger Smith, Richard Rainsbury and David Owen<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

7. Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Appellants)—<br />

8. Mitchell and others (Respondents) v. Al-Dali and others and Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia) (Appellants)—<br />

9. Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Respondents)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined, that they be allowed to<br />

lodge one statement and one appendix in respect of the three appeals, that the appellants and<br />

respondents have leave to lodge separate cases and that the respondents in the first and second<br />

appeals be separately represented (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was<br />

presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

10. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Environment—Securing the future: Delivering UK Sustainable Development Strategy;<br />

(6467)<br />

2. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—Government Response to the Report of the House of<br />

Commons Constitutional AVairs Select Committee on the Constitutional Reform Bill<br />

[hl]; (6488)<br />

3. Contingent Liability—<br />

(i) Minute from the Northern Ireland OYce on the legal indemnity for the Inquiry into<br />

the Death of Rosemary Nelson; (—)<br />

(ii) Minute from the Northern Ireland OYce on the legal indemnity for the Inquiry into<br />

the Death of Robert Hamill; (—)<br />

(iii) Minute from the Northern Ireland OYce on the legal indemnity for the Inquiry into<br />

the Death of Billy Wright. (—)<br />

11. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)— The following negative instruments, having been laid<br />

before the House on 4th March, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Education (Budget Statements) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the School<br />

Standards and Framework Act 1998; (345)<br />

2. Criminal Procedure Rules 2005, laid under the Courts Act 2003; (384)<br />

3. Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 (References to Financial Investigators) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002; (386)<br />

4. (i) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Surrey)<br />

(Borough of Spelthorne) Order 2005— (403)<br />

(ii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of<br />

Hertfordshire) (Borough of Broxbourne) Order 2005— (405)<br />

laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991;<br />

5. Health Protection Agency Regulations 2005, laid under the Health Protection Agency<br />

Act 2004; (408)<br />

6. Community Trade Mark (Designation of Community Trade Mark Courts) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Trade Marks Act 1994; (440)<br />

7. (i) Trade in Goods (Control) (Amendment) Order 2005— (443)<br />

(ii) Trade in Controlled Goods (Embargoed Destinations) (Amendment) Order 2005—<br />

(445)<br />

(iii) Export of Goods, Transfer of Technology and Provision of Technical Assistance<br />

(Control) (Amendment) Order 2005— (468)<br />

laid under the Export Control Act 2002;<br />

8. Courts-Martial Appeal (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the Courts-Martial<br />

(Appeals) Act 1968; (446)


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9. Information Tribunal (Enforcement Appeals) (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the<br />

Data Protection Act 1998; (450)<br />

10. (i) Dairy Produce Quotas Regulations 2005— (465)<br />

(ii) Dairy Produce Quotas (General Provisions) (Amendment) Regulations 2005—<br />

(466)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972.<br />

12. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Northern Ireland Act 1998, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

13. Regulatory Reform—The following order was laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, together with a Statement by the OYce of<br />

the Deputy Prime Minister.<br />

14. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Cambridge University Hospitals National Health Service Foundation Trust (Transfer of<br />

Trust Property) Order 2005, laid under the Health and Social Care (Community Health<br />

and Standards) Act 2003; (398)<br />

2. Castle Vale Housing Action Trust (Dissolution) Order 2005, laid under the Housing Act<br />

1988; (411)<br />

3. Water Industry (Determination of Turnover for Penalties) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Water Industry Act 1991; (477)<br />

4. Whole of Government Accounts (Designation of Bodies) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000. (486)<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Consumer Credit Bill—A bill to amend the Consumer Credit Act 1974; to extend the ombudsman<br />

scheme under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 to cover licensees under the<br />

Consumer Credit Act 1974; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read<br />

a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 36)<br />

16. Consumer Credit Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed.<br />

(HL Bill 36-EN)<br />

17. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that, in the event<br />

that the Prevention of Terrorism Bill has been reported to the House, Standing Order 47 (No<br />

two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with tomorrow, to allow the bill to be<br />

taken through its remaining stages that day; and that Standing Order 49 (Amendments on<br />

Third Reading) be dispensed with to allow amendments for Third Reading of the bill to be<br />

tabled tomorrow; the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Companies Act 1985 (Operating and Financial Review and Directors’ Report etc.) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the order of 10th February<br />

referring the draft Regulations to a Grand Committee be discharged; the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

19. Budget (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that<br />

the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Higher Education (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness<br />

Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Public Processions (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

22. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the question that a<br />

clause stand part of the bill was negatived; an amendment to an amendment was agreed to (see<br />

division list); further amendments to the amendment were agreed to; then the original<br />

amendment, as amended, was agreed to; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was<br />

moved and, on question, tellers for the Contents not having been appointed, the amendment<br />

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24. Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham<br />

that the draft Order laid before the House on 1st February be approved; after debate, the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

25. Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of<br />

Heigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 1st February be approved; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

26. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;<br />

amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)<br />

withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered<br />

that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 37)<br />

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before midnight<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISION<br />

PREVENTION <strong>OF</strong> TERRORISM BILL<br />

It was moved by the Lord Goodhart, in Clause 3, line 2, as an amendment to amendment 55 moved by<br />

the Baroness Scotland of Asthal, to leave out “Secretary of State” and insert “court”; which being<br />

objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 249<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 119<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

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Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

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Jordan, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

School Transport Bill—The bill was considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committee was adjourned after<br />

amendment 18.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-three minutes before eight o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 8th March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

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Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luce, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackay of Drumadoon, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.


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Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Portsmouth.


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Judicial Business<br />

1. Davidson (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The appeal of Scott<br />

Davidson was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the<br />

statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th April.<br />

2. Horton (Appellant) v. Sadler and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying that<br />

the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might<br />

be extended to 19th April (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented;<br />

and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

3. Appeal Committee—The 30th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R (on the application of Kent Pharmaceuticals Limited) (Petitioners) v. Director of the Serious<br />

Fraud OYce (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty<br />

to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted,<br />

that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.<br />

Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Barclays Bank plc<br />

(Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 22nd<br />

March.<br />

Abumujor (Petitioner) v. Kingston University (Respondents)—That the petition be dismissed<br />

as inadmissible.<br />

4. Appeal Committee—The 31st Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—That the petition of Roger Smith,<br />

Director of Justice for and on behalf of the Executive Board and Members of Justice and<br />

Justice that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be allowed.<br />

Papers<br />

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Central Sussex College (Incorporation) Order 2005— (396)<br />

(ii) Central Sussex College (Government) Regulations 2005— (397)<br />

laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;<br />

2. Council Tax (Prescribed Classes of Dwellings) (Amendment) (England) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992; (416)<br />

3. Local Authorities (Discretionary Expenditure Limits) (England) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Local Government Act 1972; (419)<br />

4. West Hertfordshire Hospitals National Health Service Trust (Transfer of Trust Property)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; (451)<br />

5. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of<br />

Hertfordshire) (Borough of Stevenage) Order 2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991;<br />

(452)<br />

6. Police Authorities (Best Value) Performance Indicators Order 2005, laid under the Local<br />

Government Act 1999; (470)<br />

7. (i) Fines Collection (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (484)<br />

(ii) Register of Fines (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (485)<br />

(iii) Collection of Fines (Pilot Schemes) (Amendment) Order 2005— (487)<br />

laid under the Courts Act 2003;<br />

8. (i) Electricity (Class Exemptions from the Requirement for a Licence) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005— (488)<br />

(ii) Electricity Act 1989 (Uniform Prices in the North of Scotland) Order 2005— (490)<br />

laid under the Electricity Act 1989;<br />

9. Legal Services Ombudsman (Jurisdiction) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Courts and Legal Services Act 1990; (489)<br />

10. Immigration (Passenger Transit Visa) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Immigration and Asylum Act 1999; (492)<br />

11. (i) Insolvency (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (512)<br />

(ii) Insolvency Practitioners and Insolvency Services Account (Fees) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005— (523)<br />

(iii) Insolvency Practitioners Regulations 2005— (524)<br />

(iv) Insolvency (Amendment) Rules 2005— (527)


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(v) Insolvency Proceedings (Fees) (Amendment) Order 2005— (544)<br />

laid under the Insolvency Act 1986;<br />

12. Children (Allocation of Proceedings) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Children<br />

Act 1989; (520)<br />

13. Energy Act 2004 (Assistance for Areas with High Distribution Costs) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Energy Act 2004; (528)<br />

14. (i) Legal Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) Regulations (Northern Ireland)<br />

2005— (—)<br />

(ii) Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005— (—)<br />

(iii) Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005—<br />

(—)<br />

laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981.<br />

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, together with the<br />

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—<br />

(ii) Accounts for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Police Service Pension Scheme,<br />

together with Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—<br />

laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2003;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003-04 of the National Lottery Distribution Fund, laid under the National<br />

Lottery etc. Act 1993, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

7. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following reports from the Select Committee were made<br />

and ordered to be printed:<br />

12th Report, on the following aYrmative instrument:<br />

Draft Renewables Obligation Order 2005; (HL Paper 71)<br />

13th Report, on the following negative instruments:<br />

Asylum and Immigration Tribunal (Procedure) Rules 2005;<br />

Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Designated Activities) (Revocation) Order 2005;<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Market Abuse) Regulations 2005. (HL<br />

Paper 72)<br />

8. Statutory Instruments—The 11th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Community Legal Service (Asylum and Immigration Appeals) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3 Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Companies Act 1989 (Delegation) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Open-Ended Investment Companies (Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Remand in Custody (EVect of Concurrent and Consecutive Sentences of<br />

Imprisonment) Rules 2005;<br />

Draft Restriction on the Preparation of Adoption Reports Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft Suitability of Adopters Regulations 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 73)<br />

9. European Union—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to<br />

be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence:<br />

Evidence from the Financial Secretary on the proposed reforms of the Stability and Growth<br />

Pact; (7th Report—HL Paper 74)<br />

Proposal to ban trade in products used for capital punishment or torture; (8th Report—HL<br />

Paper 75)<br />

The European Defence Agency. (9th Report—HL Paper 76)


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Public Business<br />

10. Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Bill—A bill to restate, with minor changes, certain<br />

enactments relating to income tax on trading income, property income, savings and<br />

investment income and certain other income; and for connected purposes was brought from<br />

the Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read<br />

a first time.<br />

11. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The report was received; amendments were agreed to; further<br />

amendments were agreed to (see division lists 1 to 4 and 6); amendments were moved and (by<br />

leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 5); it was<br />

ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 38)<br />

12. Water Fluoridation (Consultation) (England) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Warner that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Water Supply (Fluoridation Indemnities) (England) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Warner that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Opticians Act 1989 (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Warner that the draft<br />

Order laid before the House on 24th February be approved; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

15. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—Standing Order 47 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a<br />

third time; amendments were agreed to; then, after debate, the bill was passed and returned<br />

to the Commons with amendments.<br />

The House was adjourned at five minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

PREVENTION <strong>OF</strong> TERRORISM BILL<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in Clause 1, page 1, line 17, to leave out “may include, in<br />

particular” and insert “are”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House<br />

divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 256<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 129<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.


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Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

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Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lady Saltoun of Abernethy, after Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Control orders:<br />

supplementary); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 240<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 139<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

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Feldman, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E. [Teller]<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. [Teller]<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

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Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in Clause 13, page 16, line 4, to leave out subsections (2) to (6);<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 297<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 110<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

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Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.


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TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 4<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in the Schedule, page 19, line 30, to leave out sub-paragraphs (2)<br />

to (4) and insert:<br />

“( ) The relevant rules of court shall be made by the Lord Chief Justice after consulting the<br />

Lord Chancellor.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 232<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 130<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.


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Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.


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Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 5<br />

It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, in the Schedule, page 20, line 10, to leave out paragraph<br />

4 and insert:<br />

“4 Rules of court in the exercise of the relevant powers must comply with the <strong>United</strong><br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong>’s obligations under Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights,<br />

and in particular, must—<br />

(a) ensure that the relevant party and his legal representatives are given notice of all control order<br />

proceedings and relevant appeal proceedings and are able to attend for the duration of those<br />

proceedings, make representations, question witnesses and call evidence subject to the provisions in subparagraph<br />

(d) below;<br />

(b) ensure that the Secretary of State supplies to the relevant party and his legal representatives at the<br />

commencement of control order proceedings, a summary of the allegations made against him;<br />

(c) make provision for the exclusion of evidence in control proceedings which the Secretary of State<br />

knows or reasonably suspects has been obtained by torture in any jurisdiction;<br />

(d) secure that the Secretary of State is required for the purposes of any control order proceedings or<br />

relevant appeal proceedings to disclose to the relevant court and, subject only to the court’s discretion<br />

on an application ex parte by the Secretary of State for public interest immunity, to a relevant party any<br />

relevant material which may harm or assist the relevant party’s case;


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(e) ensure that the proceedings shall be determined with a hearing unless all the parties agree to it being<br />

determined without a hearing.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 76<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 123<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.


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Pendry, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 6<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in the Schedule, page 20, line 11, to leave out from beginning to<br />

end of line 3 on page 21 and insert:<br />

“( ) The rules of court must comply with the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>’s obligations under Article 6<br />

of the European Convention on Human Rights.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 173*<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 110<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.


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Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

* The Tellers for the Contents reported 173 votes; the Clerks recorded 172 names. It was subsequently<br />

established that L. Shutt of Greetland should have been recorded as voting Content.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to; the<br />

Committee was adjourned after amendment 112.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at nineteen minutes before eight o’clock.


276 9th March<br />

2005<br />

Wednesday 9th March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allen of Abbeydale, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.


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Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McFarlane of LlandaV, B.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rana, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Portsmouth.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Kay and others and another (FC) (Petitioners) v. London Borough of Lambeth and others<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Gavin Kay, William Gorman, Ian Peter Constantine, Cherry<br />

Barnett, Christopher Cole, Mieczyslaw Dymny and Thomas Greenhalgh praying for leave to<br />

appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The third petitioner’s certificate<br />

of public funding was lodged.<br />

2. Ridgeway Motors (Isleworth) Limited (Petitioners) v. ALTS Limited (Respondents)—The<br />

petition of Ridgeway Motors (Isleworth) Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented<br />

and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. Gottlieb and another (Petitioners) v. AXA General Insurance Limited (Respondents)—The<br />

petition of Clara Gottlieb and Joseph Meyer Gottlieb praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Freakley and others (Petitioners) v. Centre Reinsurance International Company and others<br />

(Respondents) and one other action—The petition of Simon Vincent Freakley, James John<br />

Gleave and Gary Peter Squires praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Telewest Communications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise (Petitioners)—The petition of Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs<br />

and Excise praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

6. Ali (FC) (Respondent) v. Headteacher and Governors of Lord Grey School (Appellants)—The<br />

petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and<br />

setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 12th April (the agents for the<br />

respondent not consenting thereto) was presented; and it was referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee. The respondent’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The 32nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the<br />

following Order was made—<br />

Jackson and others (Petitioners) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent)—That<br />

leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 23rd March.<br />

Papers<br />

8. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Environment—Kyoto Protocol to the <strong>United</strong> Nations Framework Convention on Climate<br />

Change. (6485)<br />

9. AYrmative Instrument—The following Instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Revised Funding Code prepared by the Legal Services Commission, laid under the Access to<br />

Justice Act 1999.<br />

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Town and Country Planning (Blight Provisions) (England) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Town and Country Planning Act 1990; (406)<br />

2. Surrey Hampshire Borders National Health Service Trust (Transfer of Trust Property)<br />

Order 2005, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; (444)<br />

3. Pension Protection Fund (Hybrid Schemes) (Modification) Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Pensions Act 2004; (449)<br />

4. (i) Family Proceedings Fees (Amendment) Order 2005— (472)<br />

(ii) Civil Proceedings Fees (Amendment) Order 2005— (473)<br />

(iii) Justices’ Clerks Rules 2005— (545)<br />

(iv) Justices of the Peace (Size and Chairmanship of Bench) Rules 2005— (553)<br />

(v) Local Justice Areas Order 2005— (554)<br />

(vi) Courts Act 2003 (Continuing Provision of Court-houses) Regulations 2005— (562)<br />

(vii) Justices of the Peace (Training and Appraisal) Rules 2005— (564)<br />

laid under the Courts Act 2003;<br />

5. Damages (Government and Health Service Bodies) Order 2005, laid under the Damages<br />

Act 1996; (474)<br />

6. (i) Gaming Act 1968 (Variation of Fees) (England and Wales) Order 2005— (566)


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(ii) Gaming Act 1968 (Variation of Fees) Order 2005— (567)<br />

laid under the Gaming Act 1968;<br />

7. Lotteries (Gaming Board Fees) Order 2005, laid under the Lotteries and Amusements<br />

Act 1976; (568)<br />

8. Gaming (Bingo) Act 1985 (Fees) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Gaming<br />

(Bingo) Act 1985; (570)<br />

9. (i) Directors’ Remuneration Report Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005— (—)<br />

(ii) Companies (1986 Order) (Operating and Financial Review and Directors’ Report<br />

etc.) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005— (—)<br />

laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000.<br />

11. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report on the Reform of the National Health Service Complaints Procedure, laid under<br />

the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

12. Human Rights—The 12th Report of the Joint Committee, Scrutiny: Fifth Progress Report,<br />

together with Appendices, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 77)<br />

13. Mental Health Bill, Draft—The Report from the Joint Committee was made and ordered to be<br />

printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 79)<br />

14. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

13th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Child Benefit Bill;<br />

Mental Capacity Bill—Government amendments for Report Stage;<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—Government response and Consideration of Commons<br />

amendments;<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill—Government response; (HL Paper 80)<br />

14th Report, on the following Orders:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (National Health Service Charitable and Non-Charitable<br />

Trust Accounts and Audit) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Execution of Deeds and Documents) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005. (HL Paper 81)<br />

15. Constitution Committee—The following reports from the Select Committee were made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

4th Report, First Progress Report 2004–05; (HL Paper 78)<br />

5th Report, on the Identity Cards Bill. (HL Paper 82)<br />

Public Business<br />

16. Road Safety Bill—A bill to make provision about road traYc, registration plates, vehicle and<br />

driver information, trunk road picnic areas and private hire vehicles was brought from the<br />

Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 39)<br />

17. Road Safety Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL<br />

Bill 39-EN)<br />

18. Zimbabwe (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Park of Monmouth that there be laid<br />

before the House papers relating to the situation in Zimbabwe; after debate, the motion was<br />

(by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

19. European Union: <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> presidency (Balloted debate)—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Dykes that there be laid before the House papers relating to the forthcoming <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong><br />

presidency of the Council of the European Union from 1st July 2005; after debate, the motion<br />

was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

20. Railways Bill—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee with amendments; it was ordered<br />

that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 40)<br />

21. Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications and Deemed Applications) (Amendment)<br />

(England) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord Rooker that the draft Regulations<br />

laid before the House on 9th February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.


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22. Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Rooker that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 23rd February<br />

be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Code of Audit Practice for local NHS bodies (2005)—It was moved by the Lord Rooker that the<br />

draft Code of Audit Practice laid before the House on 27th January be approved; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

24. Code of Audit Practice for local government bodies (2005)—It was moved by the Lord Rooker<br />

that the draft Code of Audit Practice laid before the House on 27th January be approved; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

25. Renewables Obligation Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Triesman that the draft Order laid<br />

before the House on 9th February be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

26. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain Lords<br />

amendments disagreed to with reasons for such disagreement; with certain other Lords<br />

amendments disagreed to but with amendments proposed in lieu thereof; with certain other<br />

Lords amendments disagreed to but with amendments to the words so restored to the bill; with<br />

certain other Lords amendments agreed to with amendments; and with the remaining Lords<br />

amendments agreed to; it was ordered that the Commons amendments and reasons be printed.<br />

(HL Bill 41)<br />

The House was adjourned at nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Railways Bill—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that<br />

the bill be reported with amendments.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twelve minutes past seven o’clock.<br />

Thursday 10th March 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Ashdown of Norton-sub-<br />

Hamdon, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.


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Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grabiner, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jacobs, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lloyd-Webber, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McFarlane of LlandaV, B.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

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Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

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Stevens of Ludgate, L.<br />

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Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

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Tope, L.<br />

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Trumpington, B.<br />

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Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

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Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

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Wolfson, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Bentham (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—It<br />

was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 26th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the<br />

Order of the Court of Appeal Criminal Division of 5th December 2003 be set aside; and that<br />

the Appellant’s conviction at Preston Crown Court on 5th September 2002 on count 2<br />

(namely, possessing an imitation firearm during the course of robbery, contrary to section<br />

17(2) of the Firearms Act 1968) be quashed. [2005] UKHL 18<br />

2. In re B (FC) (Appellant) (2002)—<br />

3. Regina v. Special Adjudicator (Respondent) ex parte Hoxha (FC) (Appellant)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Steyn, on behalf of the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 27th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered<br />

and adjudged that the orders appealed from be aYrmed and the appeals dismissed with costs;<br />

and that the amounts thereof, if any, to be paid by the appellants and to be paid out of the<br />

Community Legal Service Fund be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s in accordance with<br />

section 11 of the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the costs of the appellants in this House<br />

be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2005] UKHL 19<br />

4. Law Society (Respondents) v. Sephton & Co (a firm) (Appellants) and another and others<br />

(Appellants) (England)—The appeal of Sephton & Co, James Arthur Sephton, Philip Leslie<br />

Houlston and Alexander William Gordon Cunningham was presented and it was ordered that<br />

in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or<br />

before 21st April.<br />

5. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) v. Hindawi (FC) (Petitioner) and<br />

another—The petition of Nezar Hindawi praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged<br />

(lodged 18th February).<br />

6. In re J (a child) (FC)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th March (the<br />

agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

7. In re Sinn Fein (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the appellants was presented<br />

praying that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms agreed between the parties (the agents for<br />

the respondent consenting thereto); and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Public Administration—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons<br />

Public Administration Select Committee on Government by Inquiry; (6481)<br />

2. Intelligence Services—Report of the Intelligence and Security Committee on the<br />

Handling of Detainees by <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> Intelligence Personnel in Afghanistan,<br />

Guantanamo Bay and Iraq. (6469)<br />

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service (Membership, Committee and<br />

Procedure) Regulations 2005, laid under the Criminal Justice and Court Services Act<br />

2000; (433)<br />

2. (i) University Hospital of North StaVordshire National Health Service Trust (Transfer<br />

of Trust Property) Order 2005— (436)<br />

(ii) Sunderland Teaching Primary Care Trust (Transfer of Trust Property) Order 2005—<br />

(456)<br />

(iii) National Health Service (General Ophthalmic Services Supplementary List) and<br />

(General Ophthalmic Services Amendment and Consequential Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005— (480)<br />

(iv) National Health Service (Optical Charges and Payments) and (General Ophthalmic<br />

Services) Amendment Regulations 2005— (483)<br />

(v) National Institute for Clinical Excellence (Establishment and Constitution)<br />

Amendment Order 2005— (497)<br />

(vi) National Institute for Clinical Excellence (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (498)


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(vii) Health and Social Care Information Centre (Establishment and Constitution) Order<br />

2005— (499)<br />

(viii) Health and Social Care Information Centre Regulations 2005— (500)<br />

(ix) Special Health Authorities Abolition Order 2005— (502)<br />

(x) National Health Service Litigation Authority (Establishment and Constitution)<br />

Amendment Order 2005— (503)<br />

(xi) National Patient Safety Agency (Establishment and Constitution) Amendment<br />

Order 2005— (504)<br />

(xii) National Health Service (Dental Charges) Amendment Regulations 2005— (576)<br />

(xiii) National Health Service (Charges for Drugs and Appliances) and (Travel Expenses<br />

and Remission of Charges) Amendment Regulations 2005— (578)<br />

(xiv) National Health Service Liabilities Schemes Amendment Regulations 2005— (604)<br />

(xv) National Health Service (Pharmaceutical Services) Regulations 2005— (641)<br />

laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;<br />

3. (i) Social Security (Deferral of Retirement Pensions) Regulations 2005— (453)<br />

(ii) Social Security (Graduated Retirement Benefit) Regulations 2005— (454)<br />

(iii) Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 2)<br />

Regulations 2005— (573)<br />

(iv) Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2005— (574)<br />

laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;<br />

4. (i) Social Security (Claims and Payments) Amendment Regulations 2005— (455)<br />

(ii) Income-related Benefits (Subsidy to Authorities) Amendment (No. 2) Order 2005—<br />

(535)<br />

laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;<br />

5. (i) Smoke Flavourings (England) Regulations 2005— (464)<br />

(ii) Colours in Food (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005— (519)<br />

laid under the Food Safety Act 1990;<br />

6. (i) Social Security (Retirement Pensions etc.) (Transitional Provisions) Regulations<br />

2005— (469)<br />

(ii) Pension Protection Fund (Entry Rules) Regulations 2005— (590)<br />

(iii) Register of Occupational and Personal Pension Schemes Regulations 2005— (597)<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

7. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Amendment Regulations 2005, laid under the Road TraYc<br />

(NHS Charges) Act 1999; (475)<br />

8. TraYc Management (Strategic Roads in Greater London) Designation Order 2005, laid<br />

under the TraYc Management Act 2004; (476)<br />

9. Day Care and Child Minding (Inspections) (Prescribed Matters) (England)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Children Act 1989; (482)<br />

10. (i) Care Standards Act 2000 (Relevant Registers of Social Workers) Regulations 2005—<br />

(491)<br />

(ii) Commission for Social Care Inspection (Fees and Frequency of Inspections)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005— (575)<br />

(iii) National Care Standards Commission (Commission for Social Care Inspection)<br />

(Fees and Frequency of Inspections) (Adoption Agencies) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005— (640)<br />

(iv) Commission for Healthcare Audit and Inspection (Fees and Frequency of<br />

Inspections) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (647)<br />

laid under the Care Standards Act 2000;<br />

11. (i) General Medical Services and Personal Medical Services Transitional and<br />

Consequential Provisions (Amendment) Order 2005— (518)<br />

(ii) Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003 (Commission<br />

for Healthcare Audit and Inspection) (Transitional Provisions) Order 2005— (631)<br />

laid under the Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003;<br />

12. Health Protection Agency Act 2004 (National Radiological Protection Board and Health<br />

Protection Agency Special Health Authority (Yr Asiantaeth Diogelu Iechyd))<br />

(Consequential Provisions) Order 2005, laid under the Health Protection Agency Act<br />

2004; (525)


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13. LEA Budget, Schools Budget and Individual Schools Budget (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (526)<br />

14. Education (School Teachers’ Pay and Conditions) Order 2005, laid under the School<br />

Teachers’ Pay and Conditions Act 1991; (539)<br />

15. Welsh Local Flood Defence Scheme 1996 (Revocation) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Environment Act 1995; (548)<br />

16. (i) Non-Domestic Rating (Communications and Light Railways) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005— (549)<br />

(ii) Central Rating List (England) Regulations 2005— (551)<br />

(iii) Non-Domestic Rating (Material Day for List Alterations) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005— (558)<br />

(iv) Non-Domestic Rating (Alteration of Lists and Appeals) (England) Regulations<br />

2005— (659)<br />

laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988;<br />

17. (i) Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Transfer of Property, Rights and Liabilities of the<br />

Audit Commission for Local Authorities and the National Health Service in England<br />

and Wales) Order 2005— (550)<br />

(ii) Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Transfer of Property, Rights and Liabilities of the<br />

Comptroller and Auditor General) Order 2005— (552)<br />

laid under the Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004;<br />

18. (i) TSE (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (556)<br />

(ii) Environmental Stewardship (England) Regulations 2005— (621)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

19. Family Proceedings (Amendment No. 3) Rules 2005, laid under the Matrimonial and<br />

Family Proceedings Act 1984; (559)<br />

20. Asylum and Immigration Tribunal (Fast Track Procedure) Rules 2005, laid under the<br />

Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002; (560)<br />

21. Asylum and Immigration (Fast Track Time Limits) Order 2005, laid under the Asylum<br />

and Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004; (561)<br />

22. (i) Discharge of Fines by Unpaid Work (Pilot Schemes) (Amendment) Order 2005—<br />

(563)<br />

(ii) Court Security OYcers (Designation) Regulations 2005— (588)<br />

(iii) Courts Act 2003 (Consequential Provisions) (No. 2) Order 2005— (617)<br />

(iv) Collection of Fines (Pilot Schemes) (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005— (642)<br />

laid under the Courts Act 2003;<br />

23. (i) Community Legal Service (Funding) (Amendment) Order 2005— (571)<br />

(ii) Community Legal Service (Financial) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (589)<br />

laid under the Access to Justice Act 1999;<br />

24. Charities (Accounts and Reports) Regulations 2005, laid under the Charities Act 1993;<br />

(572)<br />

25. Merchant Shipping (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Merchant<br />

Shipping Act 1995; (580)<br />

26. Police Authorities (Lay Justices Selection Panel) Regulations 2005, laid under the Police<br />

Act 1996; (584)<br />

27. Family Proceedings Courts (Children Act 1989) (Amendment No. 3) Rules 2005, laid<br />

under the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980; (585)<br />

28. High Court and County Courts Jurisdiction (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Courts and Legal Services Act 1990; (587)<br />

29. Civil Legal Aid (General) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Legal Aid Act<br />

1988; (591)<br />

30. (i) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Exemption) (Amendment) Order 2005—<br />

(592)<br />

(ii) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005— (593)<br />

(iii) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Stakeholder Products) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005— (594)<br />

laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000;


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31. (i) Asylum Support (Interim Provisions) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (595)<br />

(ii) Travel Documents (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (653)<br />

(iii) Immigration (Leave to Remain) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (654)<br />

laid under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999;<br />

32. Local Government (Best Value) Performance Indicators and Performance Standards<br />

(England) Order 2005, laid under the Local Government Act 1999; (598)<br />

33. Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice) (Revisions to Code C) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984; (602)<br />

34. Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service (Reviewed Case Referral)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Children Act 1989; (605)<br />

35. Communications (Television Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Communications Act 2003; (606)<br />

36. National Assembly for Wales (Conduct of Litigation and Exercise of Rights of Audience)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Children Act 2004; (607)<br />

37. Transformational Grants Joint Scheme (Authorisation) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

National Lottery etc. Act 1993; (608)<br />

38. Occupational and Personal Pension Schemes (General Levy) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the Pension Schemes Act 1993; (626)<br />

39. Immigration Employment Document (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002; (627)<br />

40. Penalties for Disorderly Behaviour (Form of Penalty Notice) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001; (630)<br />

41. (i) Gender Recognition (Disclosure of Information) (England, Wales and Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005— (635)<br />

(ii) Gender Recognition (Application Fees) Order 2005— (638)<br />

laid under the Gender Recognition Act 2004;<br />

42. British Nationality (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the British<br />

Nationality Act 1981; (651)<br />

43. (i) Court of Protection (Amendment) Rules 2005— (667)<br />

(ii) Court of Protection (Enduring Powers of Attorney) (Amendment) Rules 2005—<br />

(668)<br />

laid under the Mental Health Act 1983;<br />

44. Information and Consultation of Employees Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid<br />

under the Northern Ireland Act 2000; (—)<br />

45. (i) Crown Court (Prosecution Appeals) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005— (—)<br />

(ii) Crown Court (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005— (—)<br />

laid under the Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978.<br />

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Statement on the Salary of Viscountess Cobham in her Role as Deputy Chair of the<br />

British Tourist Authority, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;<br />

2. Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pay and Allowances) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865.<br />

Private Business<br />

11. Crossrail Bill—The Examiner’s Certificate that certain Standing Orders apply to the bill (currently<br />

before the House of Commons) and that, of those which are applicable, Standing Orders 4,<br />

4A, 10, 11, 12, 12A, 13, 19, 21, 27, 27A, 31, 32, 33, 35, 36, 37, 41, 42, 43, 45 and 47 have not<br />

been complied with was delivered and referred to the Standing Orders Committee.<br />

Public Business<br />

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos), that the following Unstarred Question be referred to a Grand Committee—<br />

The Baroness Walmsley—To ask Her Majesty’s Government what progress has been<br />

made on the recommendations of the <strong>United</strong> Nations Committee on the Rights of the<br />

Child Report 2002;<br />

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13. Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation Scheme) (Rights of<br />

Appeal) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos), that the draft Regulations be referred to a Grand Committee; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Child Benefit Bill—The order of commitment of 3rd March was discharged and the bill was<br />

committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

15. Higher Education (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of<br />

Ribbleton, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), that the order of 7th March<br />

referring the draft Order to a Grand Committee be discharged; the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Mental Capacity Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that, notwithstanding<br />

the motion agreed to by the House on 22nd February 2005, the amendments for the Report<br />

stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:<br />

Clause 58 Schedule 3<br />

Clauses 1 to 9 Clauses 60 to 62<br />

Schedule 1 Schedules 4 and 5<br />

Clauses 10 to 18 Clause 63<br />

Schedule 2 Schedules 6 and 7<br />

Clauses 19 to 57 Clauses 64 and 65;<br />

Clause 59<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The Commons amendments and reasons were considered; motions<br />

to insist on certain Lords amendments but not to insist on other amendments, to disagree with<br />

certain Commons amendments, to propose amendments in lieu of Commons amendments,<br />

and to propose consequential amendments to the bill were agreed to (see division lists 1 to 4);<br />

amendments to certain other Commons amendments were agreed to; a Committee was<br />

appointed to propose a reason for the disagreement and insistences.<br />

The Lords following were named of the Committee:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reasons:<br />

In respect of the disagreement with Commons Amendments 1A and 1B, and the insistence on<br />

Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 28 and 37:<br />

“Because reasonable suspicion is too low a test; because the authority to conduct a<br />

prosecution should be the Director of Public Prosecutions and not the chief of the<br />

relevant police force; and because all control orders should be subject to the same<br />

procedure before the courts.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendments 27, 31 and 32:<br />

“Because the Act ought to be subject to the form of review proposed by the Lords.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendment 38:<br />

“Because the Lord Chief Justice not the Lord Chancellor should make the rules of<br />

court.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendment 39:<br />

“Because it is consequential on Lords amendment 38.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendment 40:<br />

“Because the rules of court ought to comply with Article 6 of the European Convention<br />

on Human Rights”.<br />

The Report was agreed to; then the bill was returned to the Commons with amendments and<br />

reasons.<br />

18. Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill—A bill to authorise the use of resources for the service<br />

of the years ending with 31st March 2004 and 31st March 2005 and to apply certain sums out<br />

of the Consolidated Fund to the service of the years ending with 31st March 2004 and 31st<br />

March 2005; and to appropriate the supply authorised in this Session of <strong>Parliament</strong> for the<br />

service of the years ending with 31st March 2004 and 31st March 2005 was brought from the<br />

Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read a<br />

first time.<br />

19. Gambling Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an<br />

amendment was agreed to (see division list 5); the House was resumed after clause 11 stood<br />

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20. School Transport Bill—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee without amendment.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

21. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments<br />

to which they have disagreed insisted on; with certain other amendments to which they have<br />

disagreed insisted on but with amendments proposed in lieu thereof; with certain other Lords<br />

amendments disagreed to but with amendments to the words so restored to the bill; with<br />

certain Lords amendments disagreed to; with a Commons amendment not insisted on; and<br />

with the remaining Lords amendments agreed to without amendment; the Commons<br />

amendments and reason were considered forthwith; motions to insist on certain Lords<br />

amendments and to disagree to certain Commons amendments were agreed to (see division<br />

lists 6 to 8); a motion not to insist on certain other Lords amendments and to agree to certain<br />

other Commons amendments was agreed to; a Committee was appointed to propose a reason<br />

for the disagreement and insistences.<br />

The Lords following were named of the Committee:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reasons:<br />

In respect of the insistence on disagreement with Commons Amendments 1A and 1B; the<br />

insistence on Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 28 and 37, and Lords Amendments 37Q<br />

to 37T; and the disagreement with Commons Amendments 17H to 17M and 37A to 37O:<br />

“Because the Lords remain of the view that reasonable suspicion is too low a test; that the<br />

authority to conduct a prosecution should be the Director of Public Prosecutions and not<br />

the chief of the relevant police force; and that all control orders should be subject to the<br />

same procedure before the courts.”<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendments 27, 31 and 32, and the disagreement with<br />

the Commons in their Amendments 27C and 27D in lieu thereof :<br />

“Because they remain of the view that the Act ought to be subject to the form of review<br />

proposed by the Lords.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendment 33D and the disagreement with Commons<br />

Amendments 33A to 33C in lieu thereof:<br />

“Because it is appropriate that the Act should cease to have eVect as proposed by the<br />

Lords.”<br />

The Report was agreed to; then the bill was returned to the Commons with amendments and<br />

reasons.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

22. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain Commons<br />

amendments in lieu insisted on; with certain other amendments to which the Lords have<br />

disagreed insisted on and with amendments in lieu thereof insisted on; with certain Commons<br />

amendments to Lords amendments, disagreed to by the Lords, insisted on; with amendments<br />

to the words to be restored to the bill insisted on; with the Commons disagreement to certain<br />

Lords amendments and Lords amendments in lieu insisted on; with the Commons<br />

disagreement to certain Commons amendments to Lords amendments insisted on; and with<br />

certain Commons amendments to which the Lords have disagreed not insisted on but with<br />

amendments proposed in lieu thereof; the Commons amendments were considered forthwith;<br />

motions to insist on certain Lords amendments, to insist on the Lords disagreement with the<br />

Commons in certain amendments and to disagree with certain other Commons amendments<br />

were agreed to (see division lists 9 to 11); a Committee was appointed to propose reasons for<br />

the disagreements and insistences.<br />

The Lords following were named of the Committee:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reasons:<br />

In respect of the insistence on disagreement with Commons Amendments 1A and 1B; the<br />

insistence on Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 28 and 37, and Lords Amendments 37Q<br />

to 37T; and the disagreement with Commons Amendments 17H to 17M, 37A to 37C, 37E to<br />

37O and 37V:


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“Because the Lords remain of the view that reasonable suspicion is too low a test; that the<br />

authority to conduct a prosecution should be the Director of Public Prosecutions and not<br />

the chief of the relevant police force; and that all control orders should be subject to the<br />

same procedure before the courts.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendments 27, 31 and 32, and the disagreement with<br />

the Commons in their Amendments 27C, 27D and 32D in lieu thereof :<br />

“Because the Lords remain of the view that the Act ought to be subject to the form of<br />

review proposed by the Lords.”;<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendment 33D and the disagreement with the Commons<br />

in their Amendments 33C, 33F and 33G in lieu thereof:<br />

“Because it is appropriate that the Act should cease to have eVect as proposed by the<br />

Lords.”<br />

The Report was agreed to; then the bill was returned to the Commons with amendments and<br />

reasons.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

23. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain Commons<br />

amendments in lieu insisted on; with certain Commons amendments to Lords amendments,<br />

disagreed to by the Lords, insisted on; with the Commons’ disagreement to certain other<br />

amendments and Lords amendments in lieu thereof insisted on; with amendments to words<br />

to be restored to the bill insisted on; with certain Commons amendments in lieu, disagreed to<br />

by the Commons, not insisted on; and with amendments proposed in lieu; the Commons<br />

amendments were considered forthwith; motions to insist on the Lords disagreement with the<br />

Commons in certain amendments; to disagree with certain Commons amendments; not to<br />

insist on a Lords amendment and to propose an amendment in lieu thereof were agreed to (see<br />

division lists 12 and 13); a motion not to insist on certain other Lords amendments and to<br />

agree with the Commons in their amendments in lieu thereof was agreed to; a Committee was<br />

appointed to propose a reason for the disagreements and insistences.<br />

The Lords following were named of the Committee:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reason:<br />

In respect of the insistence on Lords amendment 33D and the disagreement with the Commons<br />

in their Amendments 33C, 33G, 33I and 33J in lieu thereof:<br />

“Because the Lords remain of the view that it is appropriate that the Act should cease to<br />

have eVect as proposed by the Lords.”<br />

The Report was agreed to; then the bill was returned to the Commons with amendments and<br />

a reason.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

24. Prevention of Terrorism Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments<br />

to a Lords amendment insisted on; with their disagreement to certain other Lords<br />

amendments and their amendments in lieu thereof insisted on; with their disagreement to<br />

Lords amendments proposed in lieu of a Lords amendment insisted on; with their<br />

amendments to words so restored to the bill by their insistence on a disagreement to another<br />

Lords amendment insisted on; with a Lords amendment in lieu disagreed to; with their<br />

disagreement to certain other Lords amendments and certain of their amendments in lieu<br />

thereof insisted on; and with an amendment in lieu, to which the Lords have agreed, not<br />

insisted on but with an amendment proposed in lieu thereof; the Commons amendments and<br />

reason were considered forthwith; a motion to insist on the Lords disagreement to certain<br />

Commons amendments was disagreed to (see division list 14); motions not to insist on the<br />

Lords disagreement to certain Commons amendments and to agree with certain other<br />

Commons amendments were agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

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25. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Lord Brabazon of Tara) notified the Queen’s Assent to the<br />

following Act:<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Act c. 2<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before eight o’clock<br />

in the evening of Friday 11th March<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

PREVENTION <strong>OF</strong> TERRORISM BILL<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, as an amendment to Motion A moved by the Lord<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “Do disagree with the Commons<br />

in their Amendments 1A and 1B to Lords Amendment 1, but do agree with the Commons in their<br />

Amendment 1C to Lords Amendment 1; do not insist on its Amendment 8 to which the Commons have<br />

disagreed but do propose Amendment 37P in lieu thereof; do not insist on its Amendment 9 to which<br />

the Commons have disagreed; do insist on its amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 28 and 37 and do disagree<br />

with the Commons in their Amendments 37A to 37O in lieu of those Lords amendments; do agree with<br />

the Commons in their Amendments 16A to 16G to Lords amendment 16 and their Amendment 23A to<br />

Lords Amendment 23; and do propose Amendments 37R to 37T as consequential amendments to the<br />

bill”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 214<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 126<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

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Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

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Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to Motion C moved by the Baroness Scotland<br />

of Asthal, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its Amendments 27, 31 and 32”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 225<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 127<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.


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Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.


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Warner, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Hayman, as an amendment to Motion D moved by the Baroness Scotland<br />

of Asthal, to leave out from “33,” to end and insert “do disagree with the Commons in their<br />

Amendments 33A to 33C in lieu thereof, and do propose Amendment 33D in lieu of Lords Amendment<br />

33”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 250<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 101<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B. [Teller]<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L. [Teller]<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.


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Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


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Division No. 4<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to Motion E moved by the Lord Falconer of<br />

Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its Amendments 38, 39 and 40 to<br />

which the Commons have disagreed, do not insist on its Amendment 42 and do disagree with the<br />

Commons in their Amendments 42A to 42C in lieu thereof, but do propose Amendments 42D and 42E<br />

in lieu of Lords Amendment 42”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the<br />

House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 200<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 129<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.


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Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

GAMBLING BILL<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

May of Oxford, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 5<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Buscombe, in Clause 7, page 3, line 42, at end to insert:<br />

“( ) In this Act “casino premises” means premises in respect of which a casino premises licence<br />

has been granted under section 148(1)(a).”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 123<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 105


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Addington, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Pendry, L.


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Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PREVENTION <strong>OF</strong> TERRORISM BILL<br />

Division No. 6<br />

It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, as an amendment to Motion A moved by the Lord<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “Do insist on its disagreement with<br />

the Commons in their Amendments 1A and 1B to Lords Amendment 1; do insist on its Amendments<br />

37Q to 37T in lieu of Lords Amendment 8 to which the Commons have disagreed; do insist on their<br />

insistence on Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 28 and 37 in respect of which the Commons have<br />

insisted on their disagreement and do insist on their disagreement with the Commons in their<br />

Amendments 37A to 37O in lieu of those Lords Amendments; and do disagree with the Commons in<br />

their Amendments 17H to 17M to the words restored to the bill by the Commons insistence on their<br />

disagreement to Lords Amendment 17”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and<br />

the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 182<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 112<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.


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Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


2005 10th March<br />

301<br />

Division No. 7<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland to move, as an amendment to Motion B moved by the Lord<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on Lords Amendments<br />

27, 31 and 32 and do disagree with the Commons in their Amendments 27C and 27D in lieu thereof”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 178<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 111<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

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Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 8<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland to move, as an amendment to Motion C moved by the Lord<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its Amendment 33D<br />

and do disagree with the Commons in their Amendments 33A to 33C in lieu thereof”; which being<br />

objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 192<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 107<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L. [Teller]<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.


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Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.


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Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 9<br />

It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, as an amendment to Motion A moved by the Lord<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its disagreement with<br />

the Commons in their Amendments 1A and 1B to Lords Amendment 1; do insist on its Amendments<br />

37Q to 37T in lieu of Lords Amendment 8 to which the Commons have insisted on their disagreement;<br />

do insist on its insistence on Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 28 and 37 in respect of which the<br />

Commons have insisted on their disagreement and do insist on their disagreement with the Commons<br />

in their Amendments 37A to 37C and 37E to 37O in lieu of those Lords Amendments; do insist on their<br />

disagreement with the Commons in their Amendments 17H to 17M to the words restored to the bill by<br />

the Commons insistence on their disagreement to Lords Amendment 17; and do disagree with the<br />

Commons in their Amendment 37V in lieu”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon,<br />

and the House divided:.<br />

Contents … … … … … … 153<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 98<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.


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Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 10<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to Motion B moved by the Baroness Scotland<br />

of Asthal, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on Lords Amendments 27, 31 and 32;<br />

do insist on its disagreement with the Commons in their Amendments 27C and 27D in lieu thereof; and<br />

do disagree with the Commons in their Amendment 32D in lieu”; which being objected to, the question<br />

was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 155<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 97


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Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L. [Teller]<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]


2005 10th March<br />

307<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 11<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to Motion C moved by the Baroness Scotland<br />

of Asthal, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its Amendment 33D and do disagree<br />

with the Commons in their Amendments 33C, 33F and 33G in lieu thereof.”; which being objected to,<br />

the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 164<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 96<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashcroft, L.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.


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Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Waldegrave of North Hill, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 12<br />

It was moved by the Lord Goodhart, as an amendment to Motion A moved by the Lord Falconer of<br />

Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its disagreement with the Commons<br />

in their Amendments 1A and 1B to Lords Amendment 1; do insist on its Amendments 37Q, 37S and<br />

37T in lieu of Lords Amendment 8; do insist on its insistence on Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17, 22,<br />

28 and 37 in respect of which the Commons have insisted on their disagreement and do insist on their<br />

disagreement with the Commons in their Amendments 37A to 37C and 37E to 37O in lieu of those Lords<br />

Amendments; do insist on their disagreement with the Commons in their Amendments 17H to 17M to<br />

the words restored to the bill by the Commons insistence on their disagreement to Lords Amendment<br />

17; do disagree with the Commons in their Amendment 37X in lieu; do not insist on its Amendment<br />

37R and do propose Amendment 37Y in lieu thereof”; which being objected to, the question was put<br />

thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 176<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 128


2005 10th March<br />

309<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.


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Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 13<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to Motion C moved by the Baroness Scotland<br />

of Asthal, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its Amendment 33D and do disagree<br />

with the Commons in their Amendments 33C, 33G, 33I and 33J in lieu thereof”; which being objected<br />

to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 194<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 123<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Broers, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Garel-Jones, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.


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Goschen, V.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selkirk of Douglas, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Sterling of Plaistow, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.


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Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 14<br />

It was moved by the Lord Goodhart, as an amendment to Motion A moved by the Lord Falconer of<br />

Thoroton, to leave out from “House” to end and insert “do insist on its disagreement with the Commons<br />

in their Amendments 1A and 1B to Lords Amendment 1; do insist on its Amendments 37Q, 37S, 37T<br />

and 37Y in lieu of Lords Amendment 8; do insist on its insistence on Lords Amendments 12, 13, 15, 17,<br />

22, 28 and 37 in respect of which the Commons have insisted on their disagreement and do insist on their<br />

disagreement with the Commons in their Amendments 37A to 37C and 37E to 37O and 37X in lieu of<br />

those Lords Amendments; and do insist on their disagreement with the Commons in their Amendments<br />

17H to 17M to the words restored to the bill by the Commons insistence on their disagreement to Lords<br />

Amendment 17”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 56<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 117<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Willoughby de Broke, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

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Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grabiner, L.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at a quarter past three o’clock.<br />

School Transport Bill—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments<br />

were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be<br />

reported without amendment.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at one minute past five o’clock.<br />

Monday 14th March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

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Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Guthrie of Craigiebank, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McFarlane of LlandaV, B.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Parkinson, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

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Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chelmsford.<br />

1. Hereditary Peers’ By-election—The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s notified the House that the Lord De<br />

Mauley had been elected in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 10 (Hereditary<br />

peers: by-elections) to fill the vacancy created by the death of Lord Burnham among the peers<br />

excepted from section 1 of the House of Lords Act 1999.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Harding (Appellant) v. Wealands (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of Giles Christian<br />

Harding was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the<br />

statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 25th April.<br />

3. Horton (Original Appellant and Cross-respondent) v. Sadler and others (Original Respondents<br />

and Cross-appellants) (England)—The cross-appeal of the Motor Insurers’ Bureau was<br />

presented notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order VII has expired and it was<br />

ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be<br />

lodged on or before 25th April.<br />

4. London Borough of Islington (Respondents) v. Green and another (FC) (Petitioner)—The petition<br />

of Gary O’Shea praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 10th March).<br />

5. Mukasa (aka Barker) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—<br />

The petition of Steven Mukasa (aka Stephen John Barker) praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

6. Bhamjee (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions and<br />

others (Respondents)—The petition of Ismail Abdulhai Bhamjee praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without<br />

payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to<br />

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7. R (on the application of Bhamjee) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport<br />

and the Regions and others (Respondents)—The petition of Ismail Abdulhai Bhamjee<br />

praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has<br />

expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal<br />

Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

8. R (on the application of Bhamjee) (Petitioner) v. Legal Services Ombudsman and others<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Ismail Abdulhai Bhamjee praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without<br />

payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to<br />

Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

9. Massey and another (Appellants) v. Boulden and another (Respondents)—The petition of the<br />

appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 25th April (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

10. Harding (Appellant) v. Wealands (Respondent)—It was ordered that the appellant be allowed to<br />

prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

Papers<br />

11. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Housing—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Select<br />

Committee on the ODPM Homelessness Inquiry; (6490)<br />

2. Social Security—Report by the Social Security Advisory Committee and the statement<br />

withdrawing the proposed regulations by the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions in<br />

the Draft Social Security (Incapacity for Work) (General) Amendment Regulations 2003.<br />

(6491)<br />

12. AYrmative Instrument—The following Instrument was laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005, laid under the Prevention of Terrorism<br />

Act 2005.<br />

13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Armed Forces Early Departure Payments Scheme Order 2005— (437)<br />

(ii) Armed Forces Pension Scheme Order 2005— (438)<br />

(iii) Armed Forces and Reserve Forces (Compensation Scheme) Order 2005— (439)<br />

(iv) Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Act 2004 (Transitional Provision)<br />

Order 2005— (660)<br />

laid under the Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Act 2004;<br />

2. Contracting-out, Protected Rights and Safeguarded Rights (Transfer Payment)<br />

Amendment Regulations 2005, laid under the Pension Schemes Act 1993; (555)<br />

3. (i) Feeding StuVs (Establishments and Intermediaries) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act 1972— (557)<br />

(ii) Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005— (639)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

4. (i) Asylum and Immigration Tribunal (Procedure) (Amendment) Rules 2005— (569)<br />

(ii) Immigration (European Economic Area) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2005—<br />

(671)<br />

laid under the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002;<br />

5. Stakeholder Pension Schemes (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Welfare<br />

Reform and Pensions Act 1999; (577)<br />

6. Penalties for Disorderly Behaviour (Amount of Penalty) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid<br />

under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001; (581)<br />

7. (i) Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Sentencing) (Transitory Provisions) Order 2005— (643)<br />

(ii) Criminal Justice (Sentencing) (Licence Conditions) Order 2005— (648)<br />

(iii) Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Retrial for Serious OVences) Order 2005— (679)<br />

laid under the Criminal Justice Act 2003;<br />

8. Personal Injuries (Civilians) (Amendment) Scheme 2005, laid under the Personal Injuries<br />

(Emergency Provisions) Act 1939; (655)


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9. Detention Centre (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the Immigration and Asylum Act<br />

1999; (673)<br />

10. Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Variation of Threshold Conditions)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.<br />

(680)<br />

14. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Accounts for 2003–04 of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland, laid under the Probation<br />

Board (Northern Ireland) Order 1982, together with the Comptroller and Auditor General’s<br />

Report.<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham, on behalf of the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos), that Standing Orders 41 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) and 47<br />

(No two stages of a bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with on 16th March to allow the<br />

Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill to be taken through its remaining stages that day<br />

before the motion in the name of the Baroness Sharp of Guildford; the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham, on behalf of the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos), that Standing Order 47 (No two stages of a bill to be taken on one<br />

day) be dispensed with on 23rd March to allow the Income Tax (Trading and Other Income)<br />

Bill to be taken through its remaining stages that day; the motion was agreed to.<br />

17. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham, on behalf of the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos), that the following Unstarred Question be referred to a Grand<br />

Committee—<br />

The Baroness Gould of Potternewton—To ask Her Majesty’s Government what progress<br />

has been made on the Plan of Action agreed at the <strong>United</strong> Nations World Conference on<br />

Women held in Beijing in 1995;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Davies of Oldham, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), that the draft<br />

Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal that<br />

the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was<br />

committed to a Committee of the Whole House.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the<br />

Committee was adjourned after amendment 148.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before eight o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 15th March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

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Bell, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Heseltine, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

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Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Park of Monmouth, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Renwick of Clifton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Highbury, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

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Tomlinson, L.<br />

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TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

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TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wolfson of Sunningdale, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chelmsford.<br />

1. Oath—Rupert Charles Lord De Mauley, having received a Writ of Summons in accordance with<br />

Standing Order 10 (Hereditary peers: by-elections) following the death of Lord Burnham, sat<br />

first in <strong>Parliament</strong>, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.<br />

2. Baroness Strange—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that Baroness Strange, a member<br />

of the House, had died on 11th March 2005.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

3. R (on the application of Nunn) (Petitioner) v. First Secretary of State (Respondent)—The petition<br />

of Christine Nunn praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 8th March).<br />

4. In re Faraj (FC) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of Faraj<br />

Hassan Faraj praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged and<br />

for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960, was presented<br />

and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was<br />

lodged.<br />

5. A and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) (2004)—<br />

The petition of the AIRE Centre, Amnesty International Limited, the Association for the<br />

Prevention of Torture, British Irish Rights Watch, the Committee on the Administration of<br />

Justice, Doctors for Human Rights, Human Rights Watch, the International Federation of<br />

Human Rights, INTERIGHTS, the Law Society of England and Wales, Liberty, the Medical<br />

Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture, REDRESS and the World Organisation<br />

Against Torture praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal was presented and referred<br />

to an Appeal Committee.<br />

6. Matthews and others (Appellants) v. Kent and Medway Towns Fire Authority and others<br />

(Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee.<br />

7. Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Appellants)—<br />

8. Mitchell and others (Respondents) v. Al-Dali and others and Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia) (Appellants)—<br />

9. Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Respondents)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix<br />

and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 26th April (the agents for the<br />

respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

10. R (on the application of Hammond) (FC) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Appellant) (Criminal Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The<br />

respondent’s certificate of public funding was lodged.<br />

Papers<br />

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Pension Protection Fund (Appointment of Ordinary Members) Regulations 2005—<br />

(616)<br />

(ii) Pensions Regulator Tribunal Rules 2005— (690)<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;


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2. National Health Service (Pension Scheme and Injury Benefits) Amendment Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Superannuation Act 1972; (661)<br />

3. Education (Grants etc.) (Dance and Drama) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Education Act 1996; (677)<br />

4. Pensions Regulator (Freezing Orders and Consequential Amendments) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Pension Schemes Act 1993; (686)<br />

5. Pensions Increase (Civil Service Injury Benefits Scheme) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Pensions (Increase) Act 1971; (698)<br />

6. Pneumoconiosis, etc., (Workers’ Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000; (—)<br />

7. Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the<br />

Pensions Appeal Tribunals Act 1943. (—)<br />

12. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Amendment to the Rates of Pay, Bounty and Allowances of the Royal Air Force<br />

Reserve and Royal Auxiliary Air Force—<br />

(ii) Amendment List 11 to Volume 7 (1st edition) of Air Publication 3392, Regulations<br />

for the Reserve Air Forces—<br />

laid under the Reserve Forces Act 1996;<br />

2. (i) Amendments to the Rates of Pay, Allowances, Pensions of the Royal Air Force;<br />

(ii) Royal Air Force Manual of Personnel Administration Volume 2 Pay and Personnel<br />

(2nd Edition)—<br />

(iii) Royal Air Force Manual of Personnel Administration Volume 3 Allowances (2nd<br />

Edition)—<br />

laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

13. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

14th Report, on the following negative instruments:<br />

Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Croydon Tramlink Class CR4000 Vehicles) Exemption<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005;<br />

Pension Protection Fund (Multi-employer Schemes) (Modification) Regulations 2005;<br />

New Forest National Park Authority (Establishment) Order 2005. (HL Paper 83)<br />

14. European Union—The 10th Report from the Select Committee, The Hague Programme: A Five<br />

Year Agenda for EU Justice and Home AVairs, was made and ordered to be printed, together<br />

with the Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 84)<br />

15. Statutory Instruments—The 12th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 85)<br />

16. Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill [hl]—The Report from the Select Committee was made<br />

and ordered to be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 86)<br />

Public Business<br />

17. Registration of Cancer Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision about the registration of cancer; and for<br />

connected purposes was presented by the Lord Williamson of Horton, on behalf of the<br />

Baroness Finlay of LlandaV, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 46)<br />

18. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—It was moved by the Lord Grocott, on behalf of the<br />

Baroness Scotland of Asthal, that it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House<br />

to which the Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill has been committed that they consider<br />

the bill in the following order:


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Clause 1 Clause 124<br />

Schedule 1 Schedule 10<br />

Clauses 2 to 53 Clauses 125 to 141<br />

Schedule 2 Schedule 11<br />

Clauses 54 and 55 Clauses 147 to 154<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 12<br />

Clause 56 Clause 155<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 13<br />

Clauses 57 to 78 Clause 156<br />

Schedule 5 Schedule 14<br />

Clauses 79 to 105 Clauses 157 and 158<br />

Schedule 6 Schedule 15<br />

Clauses 106 and 107 Clauses 159 to 166<br />

Schedule 7 Schedule 16<br />

Clauses 108 to 118 Clauses 167 to 169<br />

Schedules 8 and 9 Schedules 17 and 18<br />

Clauses 119 to 123 Clauses 170 to 174;<br />

Clauses 142 to 146<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

19. Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

20. Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3 Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

21. Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

22. Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-Seekers) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Regulations be<br />

referred to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005—It was moved by<br />

the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

24. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered; motions that the<br />

House do disagree with certain Commons amendments were agreed to (see division lists 1 and<br />

2); a motion that the House do disagree with a Commons amendment was (by leave of the<br />

House) withdrawn; motions that the House do disagree with certain other Commons<br />

amendments were agreed to; the remaining Commons amendments and the privilege<br />

amendment were agreed to; a Committee was appointed to propose reasons for such<br />

disagreement.<br />

The Lords following were named of the Committee:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reason in respect of the<br />

disagreement on Commons amendment 1:<br />

“Because the Lord Chancellor should always be a member of the House of Lords.”;<br />

the following reason in respect of the disagreement on Commons amendment 2:<br />

“Because it is appropriate that the Lord Chancellor should have the legal qualifications<br />

proposed by the Lords.”;<br />

and the following reason in respect of the disagreement on Commons amendments 264, 265<br />

and 593:<br />

“Because these amendments are consequential on Commons Amendment 1, to which the<br />

Lords have disagreed.”;<br />

The Report was agreed to; then the bill was returned to the Commons with reasons.<br />

25. Budget (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—The Grand Committee reported that it had considered the<br />

draft Order.<br />

26. Public Processions (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—The Grand Committee<br />

reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

27. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005—The Grand<br />

Committee reported that it had considered the draft Order.


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28. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005—The Grand<br />

Committee reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

29. Mental Capacity Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the<br />

House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; further consideration on report was<br />

adjourned after amendment 7.<br />

The House was adjourned at two minutes past ten o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to the motion that this House do agree with the<br />

Commons in their Amendment 1, to leave out “agree” and insert “disagree”; which being objected to,<br />

the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 215<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 199<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Heseltine, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

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Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wolfson of Sunningdale, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.


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Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Highbury, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Lloyd of Berwick, as an amendment to the motion that this House do agree<br />

with the Commons in their Amendment 2, to leave out “agree” and insert “disagree”; which being<br />

objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 209<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 195<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bell, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carr of Hadley, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Harptree, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.<br />

Habgood, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Heseltine, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

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Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L. [Teller]<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Lower Marsh, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gwydir, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Wolfson of Sunningdale, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.


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Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rogers of Riverside, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Highbury, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Budget (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the<br />

Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the draft Budget (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Public Processions (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President<br />

(Baroness Amos) that the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the draft<br />

Public Processions (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005—<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005—<br />

It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the Grand Committee do report to<br />

the House that it has considered the draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962<br />

(Amendment No. 2) Order 2005 and the draft Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962<br />

(Amendment No. 3) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-two minutes past six o’clock.


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Wednesday 16th March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cooke of Islandreagh, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

George, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollick, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.


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Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Portsmouth, Bp.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

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Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chelmsford.<br />

1. Barony of Burnham in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Lord Chancellor reported that<br />

Harry Frederick Alan Lawson had established his succession to the Barony of Burnham in the<br />

Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>. The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s was accordingly directed to<br />

enter the Lord Burnham on the register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing<br />

Order 10(5).<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Law Society (Respondents) v. Sephton & Co (a firm) (Appellants) and another and others<br />

(Appellants)—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without<br />

giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

3. Appeal Committee—The 33rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the<br />

following Orders were made—<br />

Topplan Estates Limited (Petitioners) v. Townley (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be<br />

refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction<br />

5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of<br />

the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Fattal and another (Petitioners) v. John Lyon’s Charity (Respondents)—That leave to appeal<br />

be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

South Bucks District Council (Respondents) v. Coates and others (Petitioners)—That leave<br />

to appeal be refused.<br />

St Leger-Davey (by her litigation friend) (Petitioner) and another v. First Secretary of State<br />

for the Environment and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the first<br />

and third respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d);<br />

and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Papers<br />

4. Instrument Withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 7th March, was<br />

withdrawn:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, together with a Statement by the OYce of<br />

the Deputy Prime Minister.<br />

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Budget—Budget 2005 Investing for our future: Fairness and opportunity for Britain’s hardworking<br />

families. (—)<br />

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Pension Protection Fund (Reviewable Matters) Regulations 2005— (600)<br />

(ii) Transfer of Employment (Pension Protection) Regulations 2005— (649)<br />

(iii) Pension Protection Fund (Maladministration) Regulations 2005— (650)<br />

(iv) Pension Protection Fund (Reviewable Ill Health Pensions) Regulations 2005—<br />

(652)<br />

(v) Pension Protection Fund (Review and Reconsideration of Reviewable Matters)<br />

Regulations 2005— (669)<br />

(vi) Pension Protection Fund (Compensation) Regulations 2005— (670)<br />

(vii) Pension Protection Fund (Valuation) Regulations 2005— (672)<br />

(viii) Pension Protection Fund (Provision of Information) Regulations 2005— (674)<br />

(ix) Pension Protection Fund (Statement of Investment Principles) Regulations 2005—<br />

(675)<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;


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2. (i) Health and Safety (Fees) Regulations 2005— (676)<br />

(ii) Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (689)<br />

(iii) Community Designs (Designation of Community Design Courts) Regulations<br />

2005— (696)<br />

(iv) Producer Responsibility Obligations (Packaging Waste) (Amendment) (England and<br />

Wales) Regulations 2005— (717)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

3. Occupational Pension Schemes (Employer Debt) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Pensions Act 1995; (678)<br />

4. (i) Companies Act 1985 (Power to Enter and Remain on Premises: Procedural)<br />

Regulations 2005— (684)<br />

(ii) Reporting Standards (Specified Body) Order 2005— (692)<br />

(iii) Companies (Defective Accounts) (Authorised Person) Order 2005— (699)<br />

laid under the Companies Act 1985;<br />

5. Patents (Translations) Rules 2005, laid under the Patents Act 1977; (687)<br />

6. Welfare Food (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security Act 1988;<br />

(688)<br />

7. Personal and Occupational Pension Schemes (Indexation and Disclosure of Information)<br />

(Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2005, laid under the Pension Schemes Act<br />

1993; (704)<br />

8. Pensions Appeal Tribunals (England and Wales) (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under<br />

the Pensions Appeal Tribunals Act 1943; (709)<br />

9. Certification OYcer (Amendment of Fees) Regulations 2005, laid under the Trade Union<br />

and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992; (713)<br />

10. Supervision of Accounts and Reports (Prescribed Body) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Companies (Audit, Investigations and Community Enterprise) Act 2004; (715)<br />

11. (i) Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating Regulations 2005— (719)<br />

(ii) Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2005— (728)<br />

(iii) Statutory Maternity Pay (General) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (729)<br />

laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;<br />

12. Work at Height Regulations 2005, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act<br />

1974; (735)<br />

13. Asylum Support (Amendment) (No.2) Regulations 2005, laid under the Immigration and<br />

Asylum Act 1999; (738)<br />

14. (i) Legal Aid for Crown Court Proceedings (Costs) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005—<br />

(—)<br />

(ii) Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland)<br />

2005— (—)<br />

laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981.<br />

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Remit for the Monetary Policy Committee, laid under the Bank of England Act 1998;<br />

2. Report and Accounts 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Council for the Curriculum,<br />

Examinations and Assessment, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;<br />

3. Report on an announced inspection of Magilligan Prison by HM Chief Inspector of<br />

Prisons and the Chief Inspector of Criminal Justice in Northern Ireland, laid under the<br />

Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002.<br />

8. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House<br />

that he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,<br />

notification that the following instrument came into operation before being laid before<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005. (656)<br />

Public Business<br />

9. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debates on<br />

the motions in the names of the Baroness Sharp of Guildford and the Lord Garden set down<br />

for today shall each be limited to 2° hours; the motion was agreed to.


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10. Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that<br />

the bill be now read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committee was<br />

negatived; then, Standing Order 47 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a third time<br />

and passed.<br />

11. Education: Tomlinson Report (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Sharp of<br />

Guildford that there be laid before the House papers relating to the Tomlinson Report and to<br />

ways in which more 16-19 year olds can be encouraged to participate in education and<br />

training; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

12. Iraq (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Garden that there be laid before the House<br />

papers relating to the economic, political and security developments in Iraq since the<br />

intervention in 2003 by <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> armed forces; after debate, the motion was (by leave<br />

of the House) withdrawn.<br />

13. Regulatory Reform (Trading Stamps) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Triesman that the<br />

draft Regulatory Reform Order laid before the House on 17th January be approved; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Companies Act 1985 (Operating and Financial Review and Directors’ Report etc.) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord Triesman that the draft Regulations laid before the House<br />

on 12th January be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at eight minutes before nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, a quarter before ten o’clock for judicial business,<br />

eleven o’clock for public business.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the Committee was adjourned<br />

after amendment 183A.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty minutes past six o’clock.<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Thursday 17th March 2005<br />

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Butler of Brockwell, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Caithness, E.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chelmsford, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

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Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Gavron, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Michie of Gallanach, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

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Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Weatherill, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Worcester, Bp.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Young of Old Scone, B.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chelmsford.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Regina v. Ashworth Hospital Authority (Appellants) and another ex parte B (FC) (Respondent)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 28th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order<br />

and declaration of the Court of Appeal of 15th April 2003 be set aside and the Order of Sir<br />

Richard Tucker in the High Court of Justice, Queen’s Bench Division, Administrative Court<br />

of 1st July 2002 restored; that the respondent do pay to the appellants their costs in the Court<br />

of Appeal and in this House; and that the amounts thereof, if any, to be paid by the respondent<br />

and to be paid out of the Community Legal Service Fund be determined by a Costs Judge for<br />

those costs incurred in the Court of Appeal and certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s for<br />

those costs incurred before this House in accordance with section 11 of the Access to Justice<br />

Act 1999. [2005] UKHL 20<br />

2. Regina v. Durham Constabulary and another (Appellant) ex parte R (FC) (Respondent) (Criminal<br />

Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—<br />

3. Regina v. Durham Constabulary (Appellants) and another ex parte R (FC) (Respondent)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 29th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order<br />

of the Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division of 29th November 2002 be quashed;<br />

and that the question of costs be adjourned in order that the parties may make written<br />

submissions within 14 days. [2005] UKHL 21<br />

4. R v. Hasan (Respondent) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (formally<br />

Regina v. Z (Respondent) (2003))—It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the<br />

30th Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was<br />

ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal Criminal Division of 7th<br />

February 2003 be set aside and the Order of His Honour Judge Paget QC in the Central<br />

Criminal Court of 9th February 2001 restored; that the question set out in paragraph (a) of<br />

the certified question be answered in the negative; that the rest of the certified question be<br />

answered by saying that ’the defence of duress is excluded when as a result of the accused’s<br />

voluntary association with others engaged in criminal activity he foresaw or ought reasonably<br />

to have foreseen the risk of being subjected to any compulsion by threats of violence’; and that<br />

the case be remitted to the Court of Appeal so that the defendant may surrender to his bail.<br />

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5. Tehrani (AP) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)<br />

(Scotland)—The appeal of Behrouz Tehrani was presented and it was ordered that in<br />

accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before<br />

28th April. The appellant’s legal aid certificate was lodged (lodged 7th March).<br />

6. OBG Limited and others (Petitioners) v. Allan and others (Respondents)—The petition of OBG<br />

Limited and OBG (Plant & Transport hire) Limited (both in creditors’ voluntary liquidation)<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

7. R v. Richards (Petitioner)—The petition of Michael Richards praying for leave to appeal in<br />

accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee (lodged 16th March).<br />

8. Appeal Committee—The 34th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Harris (Petitioner) v. Harris (Respondent)—That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible.<br />

9. Appeal Committee—The 35th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

London Borough of Newham (Respondents) v. Kibata (FC) (Petitioner)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Access to<br />

Justice Act 1999; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance<br />

with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by<br />

the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Currey (Petitioner) v. Currey (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the<br />

respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the<br />

application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if<br />

not agreed between the parties.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

Papers<br />

10. Instruments withdrawn—The following instruments, laid before the House on the dates shown,<br />

were withdrawn:<br />

1. Draft OVshore Petroleum Activities (Oil Pollution Prevention and Control) Regulations<br />

2005; (10th February 2005)<br />

2. Draft Community Interest Company Regulations 2005. (1st March 2005)<br />

11. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Companies—Company Law Reform: Government Proposals. (6456)<br />

12. Regulatory Reform—The following order was laid before the House under section 4(2) of the<br />

Regulatory Reform Act 2001 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee:<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, together with a statement by the OYce of<br />

the Deputy Prime Minister.<br />

13. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Community Interest Company Regulations 2005, laid under the Companies<br />

(Audit, Investigations and Community Enterprise) Act 2004, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Draft OVshore Petroleum Activities (Oil Pollution Prevention and Control) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Pollution Prevention and Control Act 1999, together with an<br />

Explanatory Memorandum.<br />

14. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Transport for London (Reserved Services) (Croydon Tramlink and Docklands Light<br />

Railway) Exception Order 2005, laid under the Greater London Authority Act 1999;<br />

(763)<br />

2. (i) Medicines (Sale or Supply) (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment Regulations<br />

2005— (764)<br />

(ii) Medicines for Human Use (Prescribing) Order 2005— (765)<br />

(iii) Medicines (Pharmacy and General Sale—Exemption) Amendment Order 2005—<br />

(766)<br />

laid under the Medicines Act 1968;


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3. Medicines for Human Use (Marketing Authorisations Etc.) Amendment Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (768)<br />

4. Working Tax Credit (Entitlement and Maximum Rate) (Amendment) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Tax Credits Act 2002. (769)<br />

5. Immigration (Leave to Remain) (Prescribed Forms and Procedures) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Immigration Act 1971; (771)<br />

6. Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 3) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (778)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

15. Human Rights—The following reports from the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed.<br />

13th Report, Scrutiny: Sixth Progress Report, together with Appendices; (HL Paper 87)<br />

14th Report, The Convention on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, together with<br />

Appendices and Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 88)<br />

Public Business<br />

16. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Lord Brabazon of Tara) notified the Queen’s Assent to the<br />

following Act:<br />

Appropriation Act c. 3<br />

17. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain Commons<br />

amendments not insisted on but with amendments proposed in lieu thereof and with<br />

consequential amendments to the bill; it was ordered that the Commons amendments be<br />

printed. (HL Bill 47)<br />

18. Budget (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—<br />

19. Public Processions (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—<br />

20. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005—<br />

21. Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005—<br />

It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Orders laid before the<br />

House on 9th, 22nd and 24th February and on 7th March be approved en bloc; the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

22. Child Benefit Bill—The order of commitment was discharged.<br />

23. Mental Capacity Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; further consideration on<br />

report was adjourned.<br />

24. Gender Recognition (Approved Countries and Territories) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting that the draft Order laid before the House on 20th January be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

25. Courts Act 2003 (Consequential Provisions) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Evans of<br />

Temple Guiting that the draft Order laid before the House on 9th February be approved; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

26. Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 23rd<br />

February be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

27. Mental Capacity Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill<br />

be printed as amended. (HL Bill 48)<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-three minutes past six o’clock<br />

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.


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Monday 21st March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackstone, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

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Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brightman, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eames, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Elystan-Morgan, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Fellowes, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

GoV of Chieveley, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.


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Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

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Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

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Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

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Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

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Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Liverpool.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Kirin-Amgen Inc and others (Appellants) v. Hoechst Marion Roussel Limited and others<br />

(Respondents)—<br />

2. Kirin-Amgen Inc and others (Respondents) v. Hoechst Marion Roussel Limited and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

Further to the Judgment of the House of 21st October (55th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee, [2004] UKHL 46), it was ordered that the Orders of Mr. Justice Neuberger in the<br />

High Court (Chancery Division) (Patents Court) of 3rd May 2001, 16th May 2001, 8th August<br />

2001, 13th September 2001 and 18th April 2002 and the Order of the Court of Appeal of 27th<br />

March 2003 be set aside so far as they relate to costs (save for paragraphs 7 and 8 of the Order<br />

of Mr. Justice Neuberger of 18th April 2002, as set out below); that paragraphs 7 and 8 of the<br />

Order of Mr. Justice Neuberger in the High Court (Chancery Division) (Patents Court) of 18th<br />

April 2002 be aYrmed; that Hoechst Marion Roussel Limited, Hoechst Marion Roussel Inc.<br />

and Transkaryotic Therapies Inc. do pay to Kirin-Amgen Inc., Ortho Biotech Inc. and Ortho<br />

Biotech Products LP their costs of the appeal from the judgment of Mr. Justice Neuberger of<br />

21st March 2002; that Kirin-Amgen Inc., Ortho Biotech Inc. and Ortho Biotech Products LP<br />

do pay to Hoechst Marion Roussel Limited, Hoechst Marion Roussell Inc. and Transkaryotic<br />

Therapies Inc. their costs in this House and 90% of their costs in the High Court (Chancery<br />

Division) (Patents Court) and the Court of Appeal other than the costs in paragraphs 7 and<br />

8 of the Order of Mr. Justice Neuberger and the costs of the appeal from the judgment of Mr.<br />

Justice Neuberger of 21st March 2002 as set out above; that the amounts thereof be<br />

determined by a Costs Judge for those costs incurred in the High Court and the Court of<br />

Appeal and certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s for those incurred in this House; that<br />

European Patent (UK) No. 0 148 605 be amended by the deletion of paragraphs 19 to 26, 29<br />

and 31 of the summary on pages 8 and 9 and claims 19 to 26, 29 and 31; that the remaining<br />

paragraphs and claims and references to them be renumbered accordingly; and that the<br />

advertisement of the said amendments be dispensed with.<br />

3. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Greenfield (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—Further to the Order of the House of Wednesday 16th February 2005 (22nd<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee, Session 2004–05 [2005] UKHL 14), it was ordered that<br />

the respondent do pay or cause to be paid to the appellant his costs incurred in the Divisional<br />

Court of Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice Queen’s Bench Division and in Her Majesty’s<br />

Court of Appeal and that the amount of such costs be determined by a Costs Judge; that the<br />

appellant do pay or cause to be paid to the respondent his costs in this House and that the<br />

amount of such costs, if any, to be paid by the appellant and to be paid out of the Community<br />

Legal Service Fund be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s in accordance with section 11<br />

of the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed in<br />

accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999.


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4. Regina v. Parole Board (Respondents) ex parte West (FC) (Appellant)—Further to the Order of<br />

the House of Thursday 27th January 2005 (9th Report from the Appellate Committee, Session<br />

2004–05 [2005] UKHL 1), it was ordered that the respondents do pay to the appellant his costs<br />

incurred before Mr Justice Turner and on the application for permission to appeal to Her<br />

Majesty’s Court of Appeal (up to and including 20th June 2002 when permission to appeal<br />

was granted); that the respondents do pay to the appellant half of his costs incurred before<br />

this House and that the amount of such last-mentioned costs be certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s in accordance with section 11 of the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the costs<br />

of the appellant be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999.<br />

5. Regina v. Smith (Appellant) (2004) (No. 2) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division))—Further to the Order of the House of Wednesday 16th February 2005 (20th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee, Session 2004–05 [2005] UKHL 12), it was ordered that<br />

the costs of the appellant Smith in the Court of Appeal Criminal Division and in this House<br />

be paid out of central funds in accordance with s.16 (5)(d) of the Prosecution of OVences Act<br />

1985, the amount of such costs in this House to be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s.<br />

6. Robertson and others (Petitioners) v. Department of Environment, Food and Rural AVairs<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Guy Robertson, Mark Alexander, Simon Harland, Mark<br />

Holder, James Windebank and Simon Huish praying for leave to appeal was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

7. O’Connell (Petitioner) v. Ipswich Crown Court (Respondents)—The petition of Shaun Paul<br />

O’Connell praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee<br />

having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said<br />

petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 16th March).<br />

8. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Adam (FC)<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

9. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Tesema<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

10. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Limbuela<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the National Council for Civil Liberties and Justice praying for leave to<br />

intervene in the said appeals was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

11. London Diocesan Fund and others and others (Respondents) v. Avonridge Property Company<br />

Limited (Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee.<br />

12. Sutradhar (FC) (Appellant) v. Natural Environment Research Council (Respondents)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

13. Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Appellants)—The<br />

petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and<br />

setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 20th April (the agents for the<br />

respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

14. Ali (FC) (Respondent) v. Headteacher and Governors of Lord Grey School (Appellants)—The<br />

respondent now consenting to the petition praying that the time for lodging the statement and<br />

appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 12th April, it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

15. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Prisons—Government Reply to the First Report from the House of Commons Home<br />

AVairs Committee Session 2004–05 on Rehabilitation of Prisoners; (6486)<br />

2. Health—Government Report on Independence, Well-being and Choice—Our vision for<br />

the future of social care for adults in England: Government consultation document;<br />

(6499)<br />

3. Civil List—Pensions for 2004–2005, laid under the Civil List Act 1972. (—)<br />

16. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following negative instruments, having been laid<br />

before the House on 18th March 2005, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Social Security Benefits Up-rating Regulations 2005— (632)


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(ii) Social Security (Industrial Injuries) (Dependency) (Permitted Earnings Limits) Order<br />

2005— (633)<br />

laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;<br />

2. National Assistance (Sums for Personal Requirements and Assessment of Resources)<br />

(Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the National Assistance Act 1948;<br />

(708)<br />

3. (i) Pensions Regulator Tribunal (Legal Assistance Scheme) Regulations 2005— (781)<br />

(ii) Pensions Regulator Tribunal (Legal Assistance Scheme - Costs) Regulations 2005—<br />

(782)<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

4. Tax Credits Notification of Changes of Circumstances (Civil Partnership) (Transitional<br />

Provisions) Order 2005, laid under the Civil Partnership Act 2004. (828)<br />

17. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Local Authorities (Categorisation) (England) Order 2005, laid under the Local<br />

Government Act 2003; (694)<br />

2. Occupational Pension Schemes (Independent Trustee) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Pension Schemes Act 1993; (703)<br />

3. Contaminants in Food (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Food<br />

Safety Act 1990; (775)<br />

4. Social Security (Claims and Payments) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Social Security Administration Act 1992; (777)<br />

5. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of<br />

Hertfordshire) (District of Welwyn Hatfield) Order 2005, laid under the Road TraYc Act<br />

1991; (779)<br />

6. Crime Prevention (Designated Areas) Order 2005, laid under the Highways Act 1980;<br />

(829)<br />

7. Pensions Increase (Review) Order 2005, laid under the Social Security Pensions Act 1975;<br />

(858)<br />

8. Revision of Statutes made by Wolfson College, Cambridge, laid under the Universities<br />

of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923. (—)<br />

18. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Report and Accounts for 2002–03 of the Central Police Training and Development<br />

Authority—<br />

(ii) Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the Central Police Training and Development<br />

Authority—<br />

laid under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Grants and Loans to the Housing Action Trusts, together<br />

with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Housing Act<br />

1988;<br />

3. Law Commission: Ninth Programme of Law Reform, laid under the Law Commission<br />

Act 1965;<br />

4. Business Plan for 2004–05 of the Northern Ireland Legal Services Commission, laid under<br />

the Access to Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2003;<br />

5. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Public Health Laboratory Service Board, together with the<br />

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Health Service<br />

Act 1977;<br />

6. Report and Accounts for 2003-04 of the Equality Commission for Northern Ireland, laid<br />

under the Northern Ireland Act 1998.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

19. Science and Technology—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee, Radioactive Waste<br />

Management: Government Response, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 89)<br />

20. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

15th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill;<br />

Mental Capacity Bill—Government amendment for Third Reading; (HL Paper 90)<br />

16th Report, on the Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005. (HL Paper 91)


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Public Business<br />

21. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the following<br />

Unstarred Question be referred to a Grand Committee—<br />

The Countess of Mar—To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they will reconsider<br />

their policy on bovine tuberculosis in light of concerns expressed by more than 350<br />

veterinary surgeons to the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs<br />

about the spread of the disease;<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiative) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

23. Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order be referred to a Grand Committee; the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

24. Constitutional Reform Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered; motions that the<br />

House do disagree with certain Commons amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1<br />

and 2); then the Commons amendments were agreed to; further Commons amendments were<br />

agreed to.<br />

25. Identity Cards Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal that the bill be now read a<br />

second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a<br />

Committee of the Whole House.<br />

26. Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee with amendments; it was<br />

ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 49)<br />

The House was adjourned at two minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to the motion that this House do agree with the<br />

Commons in their Amendment 1B, to leave out “agree” and insert “disagree”; which being objected to,<br />

the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 191<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 203<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brightman, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

GoV of Chieveley, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

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Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

London, Bp.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

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Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Richmond, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Lloyd of Berwick, as an amendment to the motion that this House do agree<br />

with the Commons in their amendment 1C, to leave out “agree” and insert “disagree”; which being<br />

objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 189<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 201<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Ballyedmond, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brightman, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Lochbroom, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carrington, L.<br />

Chadlington, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chilver, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawford and Balcarres, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

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Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

GoV of Chieveley, L.<br />

Goschen, V.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Peckham, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkham, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L. [Teller]<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Palumbo, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Prior, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Wolfson, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

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Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Brookwood, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Varley, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Charities Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was<br />

ordered that the bill be reported with amendments.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-five minutes before eight o’clock.


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Tuesday 22nd March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Cavendish of Furness, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henig, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.


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Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Highbury, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.


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Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Liverpool.<br />

Papers<br />

1. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Education—Skills: Getting on in business, getting on at work; (6483)<br />

2. Commissioner for Older People (Wales) Bill, Draft. (6498)<br />

2. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Adoption Support Services Regulations 2005, laid under the Adoption Act 1976; (691)<br />

2. High Hedges (Appeals) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the Anti-social<br />

Behaviour Act 2003; (711)<br />

3. Local Authorities (Functions and Responsibilities) (Amendment) (England) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the Local Government Act 2000; (714)<br />

4. Recreation Grounds (Revocation of Parish Council Byelaws) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Local Government Act 1972; (867)<br />

5. Local Government (General Grant) (Amendment) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005,<br />

laid under the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2002; (—)<br />

6. Family Proceedings (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid under the Family<br />

Law (Northern Ireland) Order 1993. (—)<br />

3. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Marriage, divorce and adoption statistics: Review of the Registrar General on marriages,<br />

divorces and adoptions in England and Wales in 2002, laid under the Registration Service<br />

Act 1953;<br />

2. (i) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Maltese Naval Locally Engaged Personnel<br />

Disablement Awards) Order 2004—<br />

(ii) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Maltese Naval Locally Engaged Personnel<br />

Widows’ Attributable Pensions) Order 2004—<br />

(iii) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Maltese Naval Locally Engaged Ratings’<br />

Service Pensions Increase) Order 2004—<br />

laid under the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

4. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following report from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

15th Report, on the following aYrmative instrument:<br />

Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005;<br />

and on the following negative instruments:<br />

Criminal Procedure Rules 2005;<br />

General Medical Services and Personal Medical Services Transitional and Consequential<br />

Provisions (Amendment) Order 2005;


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Commission for Social Care Inspection (Fees and Frequency of Inspections)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service (Membership, Committee and<br />

Procedure) Regulations 2005. (HL Paper 92)<br />

5. Statutory Instruments—The 13th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:<br />

Draft Community Interest Company Regulations 2005;<br />

Draft OVshore Petroleum Activities (Oil Pollution Prevention and Control)<br />

Regulations 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 93)<br />

6. European Union—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to<br />

be printed:<br />

Remaining Government Responses for session 2003–04; (11th Report—HL Paper 94)<br />

European Contract Law—the way forward?, together with the Minutes of Evidence; (12th<br />

Report—HL Paper 95)<br />

Preventing Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction: The EU Contribution, together<br />

with the Minutes of Evidence. (13th Report—HL Paper 96)<br />

Private Business<br />

7. Crossrail Bill—It was reported from the Standing Orders Committee, that the Standing Orders not<br />

complied with in respect of the bill, currently before the Commons, ought to be dispensed<br />

with; the report was agreed to.<br />

Public Business<br />

8. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that Standing Order<br />

43 (Postponement and advancement of business) be dispensed with tomorrow to allow the<br />

unstarred question standing in the name of the Countess of Mar to be asked in the Grand<br />

Committee before the unstarred question in the name of the Baroness Walmsley; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

9. Higher Education (Northern Ireland) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness<br />

Amos) that the draft Order laid before the House on 8th February be approved; then it was<br />

moved by the Lord Glentoran, as an amendment thereto, at end to insert “but this House<br />

regrets that the Government have not provided the opportunity for the people of Northern<br />

Ireland to express their opinion on the matter, either through democratically elected<br />

institutions or by means of a referendum”; after debate, the amendment was agreed to (see<br />

division list 1); then the original motion, as amended, was agreed to.<br />

10. Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation Scheme) (Rights of<br />

Appeal) Regulations 2005—The Grand Committee reported that it had considered the draft<br />

Regulations.<br />

11. Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2005—The Grand Committee reported<br />

that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

12. Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3 Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005—The Grand Committee<br />

reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

13. Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005—The Grand Committee<br />

reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

14. Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-Seekers) Regulations<br />

2005—The Grand Committee reported that it had considered the draft Regulations.<br />

15. Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005—The Grand<br />

Committee reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

16. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to (see division lists 2 and<br />

3); amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 50)<br />

17. Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the bill be<br />

now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

18. Stipends (Cessation of Special Payments) Measure—It was moved by the Lord Bishop of<br />

Liverpool that this House do direct that, in accordance with the Church of England Assembly<br />

(Powers) Act 1919, the Stipends (Cessation of Special Payments) Measure be presented to Her<br />

Majesty for the Royal Assent; after debate, the motion was agreed to.


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19. Care of Cathedrals (Amendment) Measure—It was moved by the Lord Bishop of Liverpool that<br />

this House do direct that, in accordance with the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act<br />

1919, the Care of Cathedrals (Amendment) Measure be presented to Her Majesty for the<br />

Royal Assent; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

20. Church of England (Miscellaneous Provisions) Measure—It was moved by the Lord Bishop of<br />

Liverpool that this House do direct that, in accordance with the Church of England Assembly<br />

(Powers) Act 1919, the Church of England (Miscellaneous Provisions) Measure be presented<br />

to Her Majesty for the Royal Assent; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

21. Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004 (Relaxation of Restriction on Disclosure) Order 2005—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that the draft Order laid before the House on 9th<br />

February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Community Legal Service (Asylum and Immigration Appeals) Regulations 2005—It was moved<br />

by the Baroness Ashton of Upholland that the draft Regulations laid before the House on<br />

23rd February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Revised Funding Code prepared by the Legal Services Commission—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Ashton of Upholland that the Revised Funding Code laid before the House on 9th<br />

March be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at twelve minutes before eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

HIGHER EDUCATION (NORTHERN IRELAND) ORDER 2005<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Glentoran, as an amendment to the motion that the draft Order laid before<br />

the House on 8th February be approved, at end to insert “but this House regrets that the Government<br />

have not provided the opportunity for the people of Northern Ireland to express their opinion on the<br />

matter, either through democratically elected institutions or by means of a referendum”; which being<br />

objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 168<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 150<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

James of Holland Park, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

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Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Simon of Highbury, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.


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Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Tillyorn, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

COMMISSIONERS FOR REVENUE AND CUSTOMS BILL<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Earl of Northesk, in Clause 13, page 6, line 19, at end to insert “, and<br />

( ) issuing instructions under section 20(1)(a)”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 147<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 136<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Chalker of Wallasey, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dykes, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of High Cross, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsdown, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E. [Teller]<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.


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Tugendhat, L.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Earl of Northesk, in Clause 20, page 10, line 28, to leave out subsection (6); which<br />

being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 134<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 126<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.


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Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Inglewood, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Vinson, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Wilcox, B. [Teller]<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.


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McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN COMMITTEE ROOM 3A/4B)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation Scheme) (Rights of<br />

Appeal) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord Bach that the Grand Committee do consider<br />

the draft Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation Scheme)<br />

(Rights of Appeal) Regulations 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord Bassam of<br />

Brighton that the Grand Committee do consider the draft Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3 Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Bassam of Brighton that the Grand Committee do consider the draft Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3<br />

Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005; the motion was agreed to.<br />

Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

Bassam of Brighton that the Grand Committee do consider the draft Immigration (Leave to Enter<br />

and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-Seekers) Regulations<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord Bassam of Brighton that the Grand Committee do consider the<br />

draft Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-Seekers)<br />

Regulations 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Bassam of Brighton that the Grand Committee do consider the draft Criminal Procedure and<br />

Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

World Conference on Women—The Baroness Gould of Potternewton asked Her Majesty’s<br />

Government what progress has been made on the Plan of Action agreed at the <strong>United</strong> Nations<br />

World Conference on Women held in Beijing in 1995; after debate, the question was answered by<br />

the Baroness Scotland of Asthal.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at ten minutes before seven o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 23rd March 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baker of Dorking, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Best, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blaker, L.


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Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craig of Radley, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Flather, B.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glenarthur, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grantchester, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jopling, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lindsay, E.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.


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Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Miller of Hendon, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Patten of Barnes, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Richardson of Calow, B.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roll of Ipsden, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tanlaw, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Liverpool.<br />

1. Hereditary Peers’ By-election—The Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s notified the House that the Viscount<br />

Eccles had been elected in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 10 (Hereditary<br />

peers: by-elections) to fill the vacancy created by the death of Lord Aberdare among the peers<br />

excepted from section 1 of the House of Lords Act 1999.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

2. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Barclays Bank plc<br />

(Appellants) (England)—The appeal of Barclays Bank plc was presented and it was ordered<br />

that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on<br />

or before 4th May (lodged 22nd March).<br />

3. Jackson and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) (England)—The<br />

appeal of John Bernard Haysom Jackson, Patrick Douglas Martin and Harriet Mair Hughes<br />

was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement<br />

and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 4th May.


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4. R v. Z (Appellant) (Northern Ireland) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland)—<br />

The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

5. R (on the application of Gillan (FC) and another (FC)) (Appellants) v. Commissioner of Police for<br />

the Metropolis and another (Respondents)—The petition of the appellants praying that the<br />

time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be<br />

extended to 19th April (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and<br />

it was ordered as prayed (lodged 21st March).<br />

6. In re D (a child appearing by her guardian ad litem) (Respondent) (FC)—The petition of the<br />

second respondent praying for leave to lodge a separate case (the agents for the appellant<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

7. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Barclays Bank plc<br />

(Appellants)—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without<br />

giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

8. Jackson and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent)—It was ordered<br />

that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for<br />

costs as required by Standing Order.<br />

9. Bottomley (Respondent) v. Secretary and Members of Todmorden Cricket Club (Appellants) and<br />

others—The petition of the appellants was presented praying that the appeal be withdrawn<br />

on the terms agreed between the parties (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto);<br />

and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

10. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Older People—Opportunity Age: Meeting the Challenges of ageing in the 21st century;<br />

(6466)<br />

2. Intelligence Services—Review of Intelligence on Weapons of Mass Destruction:<br />

Implementation of Its Conclusions; (6492)<br />

3. Council of Europe—Sixth Protocol to the General Agreement on Privileges and<br />

Immunities of the Council of Europe; (6493)<br />

4. Nuclear Energy—Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and Ireland on the Early<br />

Notification of a Nuclear Accident or Incident of Radiological Significance and the<br />

Exchange of Information concerning the Operation and Management of Nuclear<br />

Facilities or Activities; (6494)<br />

5. Police—Headquarters Agreement between the Government of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and<br />

the European Police College; (6495)<br />

6. Corporate Manslaughter Bill, Draft—Corporate Manslaughter: The Government’s Draft<br />

Bill for Reform: Government Consultation Document; (6497)<br />

7. Culture—Report of the Spoliation Advisory Panel in Respect of a 12th Century<br />

Manuscript now in the Possession of the British Library. (—)<br />

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Occupational Pension Schemes (Winding up etc.) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Pension Schemes Act 1993; (706)<br />

2. Workmen’s Compensation (Supplementation) (Amendment) Scheme 2005, laid under<br />

the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (832)<br />

3. Reserve Forces (Call-out and Recall) (Financial Assistance) Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Reserve Forces Act 1996; (859)<br />

4. Prison (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the Prison Act 1952; (869)<br />

5. (i) Insolvency Act 1986 (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (879)<br />

(ii) Waste Management Licensing (England and Wales) (Amendment and Related<br />

Provisions) Regulations 2005— (883)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

6. Landfill Allowances and Trading Scheme (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Waste and Emissions Trading Act 2003; (880)<br />

7. <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Pensions (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

and Other Pensions Act 1987; (887)<br />

8. Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) 2005, laid under the<br />

Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978; (—)<br />

9. Prison and Young OVenders Centre (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005, laid<br />

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12. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Report and Accounts for 2003–04 of the National Care Standards Commission, laid<br />

under the Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003<br />

(Commission for Healthcare Audit and Inspection and Commission for Social Care<br />

Inspection) (Transitional and Consequential Provisions) Order 2004, together with the<br />

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Consolidated Fund and National Loans Fund, laid under<br />

the National Loans Act 1968, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor<br />

General;<br />

3. Prudential Borrowing Code for National Health Service Foundation Trusts, laid under<br />

the Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003;<br />

4. Report of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner for Administration on the Maxwell<br />

Communications Pension Plan Complaint, laid under the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner<br />

Act 1967;<br />

5. Naval, Military and Air Forces Etc. (Disablement and Death) Service Pensions<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Social Security (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act<br />

1977. (851)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

13. Human Rights—The following Reports from the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed:<br />

Scrutiny of Bills: Progress Report, together with appendices; (15th Report—HL Paper 97)<br />

Equality Bill, together with an appendix; (16th Report—HL Paper 98)<br />

Review of International Human Rights Instruments, together with appendices. (17th<br />

Report—HL Paper 99)<br />

Public Business<br />

14. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the debates on<br />

the motions in the names of the Baroness Perry of Southwark and the Lord Howard of Rising<br />

set down for today shall each be limited to 2° hours; the motion was agreed to.<br />

15. Railways Bill—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that the amendments for the Report<br />

stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:<br />

Clause 1 Clauses 23 to 25<br />

Schedules 1 and 2 Schedule 8<br />

Clause 2 Clauses 26 to 45<br />

Schedule 3 Schedule 9<br />

Clauses 3 and 4 Clauses 46 to 52<br />

Schedule 4 Schedule 10<br />

Clauses 5 to 19 Clause 53<br />

Schedule 5 Schedule 11<br />

Clauses 20 and 21 Clauses 54 to 58<br />

Schedule 6 Schedules 12 and 13<br />

Clause 22 Clause 59;<br />

Schedule 7<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Schools: pupil behaviour (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Perry of Southwark<br />

that there be laid before the House papers relating to pupil behaviour in schools; after debate,<br />

the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

17. Planning policies (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Howard of Rising that there be laid<br />

before the House papers relating to Government planning policies on new house building and<br />

the control of traveller sites; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.<br />

18. New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiative) Order 2005—The Grand Committee<br />

reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

19. Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005—The Grand Committee<br />

reported that it had considered the draft Order.<br />

20. Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey<br />

that the bill be now read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committee was<br />

negatived; then, Standing Order 47 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a third time<br />

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21. Open-Ended Investment Companies (Amendment) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 10th February be<br />

approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

22. Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Carrying on Regulated Activities by Way of Business)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft<br />

Order laid before the House on 10th February be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

23. Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Funds Payments) Order<br />

2005—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the<br />

House on 1st February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

24. Child Trust Funds (Appeals) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham<br />

that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 9th February be approved; after debate,<br />

the motion was agreed to.<br />

25. Child Trust Funds (Appeals) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Baroness<br />

Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 9th February be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

26. Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Child Trust Funds) Regulations 2005—It was moved<br />

by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 9th<br />

February be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-four minutes past nine o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

PROCEEDINGS <strong>OF</strong> THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)<br />

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.<br />

New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiative) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh<br />

of Haringey that the Grand Committee do consider the draft New Opportunities Fund<br />

(Specification of Initiative) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

McIntosh of Haringey that the Grand Committee do consider the draft Contracting Out<br />

(Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

Bovine tuberculosis—The Countess of Mar asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they will<br />

reconsider their policy on bovine tuberculosis in light of concerns expressed by more than 350<br />

veterinary surgeons to the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs about the<br />

spread of the disease; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations: Rights of the Child Report 2002—The Baroness Walmsley asked Her Majesty’s<br />

Government what progress has been made on the recommendations of the <strong>United</strong> Nations<br />

Committee on the Rights of the Child Report 2002; after debate, the question was answered by the<br />

Baroness Andrews.<br />

The Committee was adjourned at two minutes before seven o’clock.<br />

Thursday 24th March 2005<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

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Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Elystan-Morgan, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Aberavon, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

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Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Sutherland of Houndwood, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Liverpool.<br />

Papers<br />

1. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Pay Review Bodies—Third Report of the Prison Service Pay Review Body on Northern<br />

Ireland; (6504)<br />

2. Law—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Constitutional<br />

AVairs Select Committee on Family Justice: the Operation of the family courts; (6507)<br />

3. Contingent Liability—Departmental Minute from HM Treasury on the Bequest to the<br />

Nation of Harold William Frost Deceased. (—)<br />

2. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Equipment and Protective Systems Intended for Use in Potentially Explosive<br />

Atmospheres (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (830)<br />

(ii) Supply of Machinery (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (831)<br />

(iii) Hazardous Waste (England and Wales) Regulations 2005— (894)<br />

(iv) List of Wastes (England) Regulations 2005— (895)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

2. (i) Social Security (Graduated Retirement Benefit) (Amendment) Regulations 2005—<br />

(846)<br />

(ii) Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating) Consequential Amendment Regulations<br />

2005— (915)<br />

laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;<br />

3. Merchant Shipping (Accident Reporting and Investigation) Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (881)<br />

4. National Health Service (Primary Medical Services) (Miscellaneous Amendments)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; (893)<br />

5. General Medical Council (Legal Assessors) (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the<br />

Medical Act 1983; (896)<br />

6. Young OVender Institution (Amendment) Rules 2005, laid under the Prison Act 1952;<br />

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7. (i) Materials and Articles in Contact with Food (England) Regulations 2005— (898)<br />

(ii) Food Labelling (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005— (899)<br />

laid under the Food Safety Act 1990;<br />

8. (i) Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Code of Conduct) Order 2005—<br />

(901)<br />

(ii) Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Procedural Rules) Order 2005—<br />

(903)<br />

(iii) Public Order (Prescribed Forms) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2005— (904)<br />

(iv) Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Guidelines) Order 2005— (905)<br />

laid under the Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998;<br />

9. Plant Health (Import Inspection Fees) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Finance Act 1973; (906)<br />

10. Child Trust Funds (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2005, laid under the Child Trust<br />

Funds Act 2004; (909)<br />

11. Courts Act 2003 (Transitional Provisions, Savings and Consequential Provisions) Order<br />

2005, laid under the Courts Act 2003; (911)<br />

12. Crime Prevention (Designated Areas) (No. 2) Order 2005, laid under the Highways Act<br />

1980; (914)<br />

13. Gender Recognition (Disclosure of Information) (England, Wales and Northern Ireland)<br />

(No. 2) Order 2005, laid under the Gender Recognition Act 2004; (916)<br />

14. Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Child Trust Funds) Regulations (Northern<br />

Ireland) 2005, laid under the Social Security (Northern Ireland) Order 1998; (—)<br />

15. (i) Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment No. 2) 2005— (—)<br />

(ii) Criminal Appeal (Retrial for Serious OVences) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005—<br />

(—)<br />

(iii) Criminal Appeal (Prosecution Appeals) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2005— (—)<br />

(iv) Criminal Appeal (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Rules 2005— (—)<br />

laid under the Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978;<br />

16. Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules, laid under the Immigration Act 1971. (—)<br />

3. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Plan for 2005–06 of the OYce of Fair Trading, laid under the Enterprise Act 2002;<br />

2. Accounts for 2003–04 of the Dartford-Thurrock Crossing Road User Charging Scheme,<br />

laid under the Trunk Road Charging Schemes (Bridges and Tunnels) (Keeping of<br />

Accounts) (England) Regulations 2003.<br />

Select Committee Report<br />

4. Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill, Draft—The Report from the Joint Committee was made<br />

and ordered to be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 100)<br />

Public Business<br />

5. Expenses—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) to resolve, That for the purposes<br />

of the Resolutions of the House relating to the entitlement to recover expenses of travel, oYce<br />

costs and day and overnight subsistence, attendance at the House on Friday 11th March shall<br />

constitute attendance at a separate sitting of the House; the motion was agreed to.<br />

6. Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed Forces and Reserve Forces Compensation Scheme) (Rights of<br />

Appeal) Regulations 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Crawley that the draft Regulations<br />

laid before the House on 13th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

7. Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2005—<br />

8. Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3 Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005—<br />

9. Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005—<br />

10. Immigration and Asylum (Provision of Accommodation to Failed Asylum-Seekers) Regulations<br />

2005—


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11. Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 2005—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Rooker that the draft Orders laid before the House on 10th, 21st<br />

and 23rd February and the draft Regulations on 7th February be approved en bloc; the motion<br />

was agreed to.<br />

12. New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiative) Order 2005—It was moved by the Lord<br />

McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 9th February be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

13. Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Cultural Objects) Order 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 24th February be<br />

approved; the motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Child Benefit Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.<br />

15. Procedure of the House—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the First Report from<br />

the Select Committee be agreed to; then it was moved by the Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank,<br />

as an amendment thereto, at end to insert “but with the omission of paragraph 20(a)”; after<br />

debate, the amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); then it was moved by the<br />

Baroness Lockwood, as an amendment to the original motion, at end to insert “but with the<br />

omission of paragraph 20(b)”; the amendment was agreed to; then the original motion, as<br />

amended, was agreed to.<br />

16. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Lord Brougham and Vaux) notified the Queen’s Assent to the<br />

following Acts and Measures:<br />

Constitutional Reform Act c. 4<br />

Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Act c. 5<br />

Child Benefit Act c. 6<br />

Stipends (Cessation of Special Payments) Measure No. 1<br />

Care of Cathedrals (Amendment) Measure No. 2<br />

Church of England (Miscellaneous Provisions) Measure No. 3<br />

17. Mental Capacity Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were moved and (by leave of<br />

the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); amendments were<br />

agreed to; then the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.<br />

18. Regulatory Reform (National Health Service Charitable and Non-Charitable Trust Accounts and<br />

Audit) Order 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Andrews that the draft Regulatory Reform<br />

Order laid before the House on 9th February be approved; after debate, the motion was<br />

agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes before six o’clock<br />

to Monday 4th April next, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

FIRST REPORT FROM THE PROCEDURE COMMITTEE<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank, as an amendment to the motion that the First<br />

Report from the Select Committee be agreed to, at end to insert “but with the omission of paragraph<br />

20(a)”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 98<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 135<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blatch, B.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brougham and Vaux, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Cockfield, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

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Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L. [Teller]<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Skidelsky, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Boothroyd, B.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B. [Teller]<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller]<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morgan of Huyton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.


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Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

MENTAL CAPACITY BILL<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Earl Howe, in Clause 11, page 7, line 24, to leave out from “treatment,” to “and”<br />

in line 25; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 18<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 118<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Carlile of Berriew, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chapman, B.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L. [Teller]<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gibson of Market Rasen, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howells of St. Davids, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mitchell, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B. [Teller]<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Shrewsbury, E.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Pearson of Rannoch, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. Albans, Bp.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Tenby, V.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


368 4th April<br />

2005<br />

Monday 4th April 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Adebowale, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Croham, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Hattersley, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howard of Rising, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Chesterton, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.


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369<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McCluskey, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Moore of Wolvercote, L.<br />

Moran, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Moynihan, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quinton, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steinberg, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.


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Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

1. Oath—John Dawson Viscount Eccles, having received a Writ of Summons in accordance with<br />

Standing Order 10 (Hereditary peers: by-elections) following the death of Lord Aberdare, took<br />

and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.<br />

2. Deaths of Lords—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that the following members of the<br />

House had died:<br />

Lord Callaghan of CardiV on 26th March 2005<br />

Lord Roll of Ipsden on 30th March 2005.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

3. Smith (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and another (Respondents)<br />

(England)—The appeal of Helen Smith was presented and it was ordered that in accordance<br />

with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 16th May.<br />

The appellant’s certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 14th March).<br />

4. R (on the application of N) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of N praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 28th<br />

February).<br />

5. M (FC) (Petitioner) v. Immigration Appeal Tribunal (Respondents)—The petition of M praying<br />

for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s<br />

certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 23rd March).<br />

6. G (FC) (Petitioner) v. Immigration Appeal Tribunal (Respondents)—The petition of G praying<br />

for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s<br />

certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 23rd March).<br />

7. R (on the application of Begum (by her litigation friend, Rahman)) (Respondent) v. Headteacher<br />

and Governors of Denbigh High School (Petitioners)—The petition of the Headteacher and<br />

Governors of Denbigh High School praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee.<br />

8. Clare (FC) (Petitioner) v. Perry (trading as Widemouth Manor Hotel) (Respondent)—The petition<br />

of Lorraine Ann Clare praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 24th March).<br />

9. Jafari-Fini (Petitioner) v. Skillglass Limited and others (Respondents)—The petition of<br />

Mohammad Jafari-Fini praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

10. Will Gannon & Smith Limited (Petitioners) v. Abbott and another (Respondents)—The petition<br />

of Will Gannon & Smith Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee.<br />

11. Kuwait Airways Corporation (Respondents) v. Iraqi Airways Company (Petitioners) (2005)—The<br />

petition of Iraqi Airways Company praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee.<br />

12. Autologic Holdings plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

13. BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

14. The Future Network plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

15. Perkins Engines Company Limited and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

16. HJ Heinz Company Inc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

17. British Telecommunications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 24th<br />

March).


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18. College of Estate Management (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the<br />

statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 25th<br />

May (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered<br />

as prayed.<br />

19. In re J (a child) (FC)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 31st March next<br />

(the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed<br />

(lodged 24th March).<br />

20. Standard Commercial Property Securities Limited and others (Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council (Appellants) and others (Scotland)—<br />

21. Standard Commercial Property Securities Limited and others (Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council and others (Appellants) (Scotland)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined, that they be allowed to<br />

lodge one statement, one appendix and separate cases and that the respondents have leave to<br />

lodge separate cases and be separately represented (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

22. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Security—Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and the <strong>United</strong> States on<br />

Cooperation in Science and Technology for Critical Infrastructure Protection and other<br />

Homeland/Civil Security Matters; (31st March) (6501)<br />

2. Human Rights—Protocols 1 and 2 to the European Convention for the Prevention of<br />

Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; (1st April) (6502)<br />

3. Sentenced Persons—Agreement between the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and India on the Transfer<br />

of Sentenced Persons; (1st April) (6512)<br />

4. Housing—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons ODPM Select<br />

Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government and the Regions on the Role<br />

and EVectiveness of the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment; (4th<br />

April) (6509)<br />

5. Contingent Liability—Minute from the Department of Health in Respect of the<br />

Employers’ Organisation. (4th April) (—)<br />

23. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 71)—The following statutory instruments, having been<br />

laid before the House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

S.I. No.<br />

Title, etc. 2005<br />

Date of Laying<br />

Negative instruments<br />

Adopted Children and Adoption Contact Registers Regulations 924 29th March<br />

2005, laid under the Adoption and Children Act 2002;<br />

Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (Service of Prosecution Evidence) 902 30th March<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998;<br />

Enterprise Act 2002 (Part 8) (Designation of the Consumers’ 917 30th March<br />

Association) Order 2005, laid under the Enterprise Act 2002;<br />

(i) Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment and Support<br />

Schemes (Cross Compliance) (England) (Amendment)<br />

918 30th March<br />

Regulations 2005—


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S.I. No.<br />

Title, etc. 2005<br />

Date of Laying<br />

(ii) Greenhouse Gas Emissions Trading Scheme Regulations 925 30th March<br />

2005—<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

Pensions Regulator (Contribution Notices and Restoration Orders) 931 30th March<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

Pensions Appeal Commissioners (Procedure) (Northern Ireland) 965 30th March<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Pensions Appeal Tribunals Act<br />

1943;<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Contracting-out) (Amount 891 31st March<br />

Required for Restoring State Scheme Rights) Amendment<br />

(i)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Pension Schemes Act 1993;<br />

Pensions Regulator (Notifiable Events) Regulations 2005— 900 31st March<br />

(ii) Occupational Pension Schemes and Pension Protection Fund<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005—<br />

993 31st March<br />

laid under the Pensions Act 2004;<br />

Statutory Maternity Pay (General) and Statutory Sick Pay (General) 989 31st March<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Social Security<br />

Administration Act 1992;<br />

Courts Act 2003 (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Order 1012 31st March<br />

2005, laid under the Courts Act 2003;<br />

National Health Service (Pharmaceutical Services) Amendment 1015 31st March<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the National Health Service Act<br />

1977;<br />

Education (Amendments to Regulations Requiring the Publication 845 1st April<br />

of Pupil Performance Information) (England) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Education Act 1996;<br />

(i) Export and Import of Dangerous Chemicals Regulations 928 1st April<br />

2005—<br />

(ii) Civil Aviation (Denied Boarding,<br />

Assistance) Regulations 2005—<br />

Compensation and 975 1st April<br />

(iii) FeedingstuVs (Zootechnical Products) and Medicated<br />

FeedingstuVs (Amendment) (England, Scotland and Wales)<br />

1033 1st April<br />

Regulations 2005—<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

Local Authorities (Functions and Responsibilities) (Amendment) 929 1st April<br />

(No. 2) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the Local<br />

Government Act 2000;<br />

Asylum (Designated States) (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under 1016 1st April<br />

the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002.<br />

24. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by<br />

resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Draft Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Armed Forces Act 2001, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;<br />

2. Direction given on 1st April by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland under the<br />

Northern Ireland Act 1998, regarding Reduction of Financial Assistance, laid under the<br />

Northern Ireland Act 1998.<br />

25. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. European Communities (Designation) Order 2005, laid under the European<br />

Communities Act 1972; (850)<br />

2. Copyright and Performances (Application to Other Countries) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988; (852)


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3. Education (Variation of Admission Arrangements) (England) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2005, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (873)<br />

4. Education (Head Teachers’ Qualifications) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005,<br />

laid under the Education Act 2002; (875)<br />

5. Norfolk and SuVolk Broads Act 1988 (Alteration of Constitution of the Broads<br />

Authority) Order 2005, laid under the Norfolk and SuVolk Broads Act 1988; (1067)<br />

6. Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005, laid under the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act<br />

1990; (1085)<br />

7. Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 4) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (1086)<br />

26. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Accounts for 2003–04 of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Contributory Pension Fund, together with<br />

the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary and<br />

Other Pensions Act 1972;<br />

2. Report of the making of a call-out order of members of the Reserve Forces, laid under<br />

the Reserve Forces Act 1996;<br />

3. Report for 2004 on the number of notices served, directions given and enforcement<br />

notices served under the Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990, laid under that Act;<br />

4. Report for 2004 on the number of notices served, directions given and enforcement<br />

notices served under the Aviation Security Act 1982, laid under that Act;<br />

5. Report for 2004 on the number of notices served, directions given and enforcement<br />

notices served under the Channel Tunnel (Security) Order 1994, laid under that Act;<br />

6. Report for 2004 on the number of notices served, instructions given and enforcement<br />

notices served under the Railways Act 1993, laid under that Act;<br />

7. Amendments to—<br />

(i) rates of pay of the Royal Air Force—<br />

(ii) regulations of Royal Air Force retired pay and pensions—<br />

laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917;<br />

8. Amendments to—<br />

(i) rates of pay and bounties of the Royal Air Force Reserve, the Royal Auxiliary Air<br />

Force and Uniformed Adult Instructors of the Air Training Corps and the Combined<br />

Cadet Force (RAF)—<br />

(ii) rates of pay and bounties of the Royal Fleet Reserve, the Royal Naval Reserve and<br />

the Royal Marine Reserve—<br />

laid under the Reserve Forces Act 1996;<br />

9. Community Legal Service Fund Specific Budgets 2005-06, laid under the Access to Justice<br />

Act 1999;<br />

10. Human Rights Act 1998 (Amendment) Order 2005, laid under the Human Rights Act<br />

1998. (1071)<br />

Private Business<br />

27. Standing Orders (Private Business)—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the<br />

amendments in the marshalled list, dated 24th March 2005, be made to the Standing Orders<br />

relating to Private Business; the motion was agreed to.<br />

Public Business<br />

28. Railways Bill—The report was received; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list);<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed<br />

to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 51)<br />

29. Drugs Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal that the bill be now read a second<br />

time; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes past eight o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


374 4th April<br />

2005<br />

DIVISION<br />

RAILWAYS BILL<br />

It was moved by the Viscount Astor, in Clause 3, page 5, line 5, at end to insert:<br />

“( ) After subsection (7B) insert—<br />

“(7C) The Secretary of State shall have a duty to exercise his functions under this Part and under the<br />

Railways Act 2005 that are not safety functions in the manner which he considers best<br />

calculated to—<br />

(a) promote the use of the railway network in Great Britain for the carriage of passengers and<br />

goods; and<br />

(b) secure the development of that railway network.<br />

(7D) In calculating how best to exercise the functions referred to in subsection (7C), the Secretary of<br />

State shall have regard to any strategy made by him under subsection (7E).<br />

(7E) Secretary of State shall formulate and keep under review such strategies for the railway network<br />

in Great Britain as he considers appropriate, including strategies relating to—<br />

(a) the resources available for the operation and expansion of passenger and freight services in<br />

England and Wales, including investment plans;<br />

(b) rolling stock;<br />

(c) infrastructure;<br />

(d) passenger franchising policy; and<br />

(e) policies for community railways.<br />

(7F) A draft of the strategies made by the Secretary of State under subsection (7E) shall be laid before,<br />

and approved by a resolution of, each House of <strong>Parliament</strong> every three years.””<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 120<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 136<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alliance, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Hunt of Wirral, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E. [Teller]<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.


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Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Tebbit, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B. [Teller]<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jay of Paddington, B.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Layard, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.


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Tuesday 5th April 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Blood, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bowness, L.<br />

Boyce, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Chorley, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Coventry, Bp.<br />

Cox, B.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Fearn, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glasgow, E.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haskins, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.


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Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Imbert, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kalms, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Linklater of Butterstone, B.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, Bp.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lloyd of Berwick, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mallalieu, B.<br />

Manchester, Bp.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neill of Bladen, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Onslow, E.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Oxford, Bp.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharman, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Sheppard of Didgemere, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tombs, L.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

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Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Walton of Detchant, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilcox, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

1. Barony of Aberdare in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Petition of Alastair John<br />

Lyndhurst Bruce claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Aberdare in the Peerage of the<br />

<strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and praying that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter the<br />

petitioner as the Lord Aberdare on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing<br />

Order 10(5) was presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report<br />

upon to the House pursuant to Standing Order 11.<br />

2. Barony of Boyle in the Peerage of Great Britain—The Petition of John (also known as Jonathan)<br />

Richard Boyle claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Boyle in the Peerage of Great<br />

Britain and praying that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter the petitioner<br />

as the Lord Boyle on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5)<br />

was presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report upon to the<br />

House pursuant to Standing Order 11.<br />

3. Barony of Mountgarret in the Peerage of the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>—The Petition of Piers James<br />

Richard Butler claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Mountgarret in the Peerage of<br />

the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and praying that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter<br />

the petitioner as the Lord Mountgarret on his register of hereditary peers maintained under<br />

Standing Order 10(5) was presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and<br />

report upon to the House pursuant to Standing Order 11.<br />

4. Barony of Polwarth in the Peerage of Scotland—The Petition of Andrew Walter Hepburne Scott<br />

claiming to have succeeded to the Barony of Polwarth in the Peerage of Scotland and praying<br />

that the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s might be directed to enter the petitioner as the Lord Polwarth<br />

on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5) was presented and<br />

was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report upon to the House pursuant to<br />

Standing Order 11.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

5. Royle (Petitioner) v. Manchester City Football Club plc (Respondents)—The petition of Joe Royle<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

6. Walsh (AP) (Petitioner) v. Director of Assets Recovery Agency (Respondent) (Northern<br />

Ireland)—The petition of Cecil Walsh praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the<br />

time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.<br />

7. Jackson and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent)—The petition<br />

of the League Against Cruel Sports Limited praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal<br />

was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

8. In re J (a child) (FC)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee (lodged 31st March).<br />

Papers<br />

9. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Foreign AVairs—Government Response to the Third Report of the House of Commons<br />

Foreign AVairs Committee on the Western Balkans; (6505)<br />

2. Defence—Departmental Minute concerning the Ministry of Defence’s intention to<br />

introduce a Service Group Life Insurance (SGLI) Scheme for the Armed Forces. (—)<br />

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. Manufacture and Storage of Explosives Regulations 2005, laid under the Health and<br />

Safety at Work etc. Act 1974; (1082)<br />

2. (i) Common Agricultural Policy Single Payment and Support Schemes (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005— (1087)<br />

(ii) Civil Aviation (Insurance) Regulations 2005— (1089)


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(iii) Merchant Shipping (Amendments to Reporting Requirements) Regulations 2005—<br />

(1092)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

3. Railways (Penalty Fares) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Railways Act<br />

1993; (1095)<br />

4. Community Legal Services (Financial) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2005, laid under<br />

the Access to Justice Act 1999; (1097)<br />

5. Education (School Teachers’ Pay and Conditions) (No. 2) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Education Act 2002; (1101)<br />

6. Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment No. 3) 2005, laid under the<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005. (—)<br />

11. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—the following paper was laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

Report on the inspection of the Juvenile Justice Centre (Northern Ireland) in October 2004,<br />

laid under the Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

12. European Union—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to<br />

be printed:<br />

Strengthening National <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Scrutiny of the EU—the Constitution’s Subsidiarity<br />

Early Warning Mechanism, together with the Minutes of Evidence; (14th Report-HL Paper<br />

101)<br />

Clause 2 of the European Union Bill—the Constitution’s passerelle provisions; (15th Report-<br />

HL Paper 102)<br />

Finland’s National <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Scrutiny of the EU, together with the Minutes of Evidence;<br />

(16th Report-HL Paper 103)<br />

Proposed European Union Integrated Action Programme for Life-long Learning, together<br />

with the Minutes of Evidence. (17th Report–HL Paper 104)<br />

13. Merits of Statutory Instruments—The following reports from the Select Committee was made and<br />

ordered to be printed:<br />

16th Report, on the following negative instruments:<br />

Local Government (Best Value) Performance Indicators and Performance Standards<br />

(England) Order 2005;<br />

Immigration Employment Document (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2005;<br />

Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005;<br />

Non-Domestic Rating (Material Day for List Alterations) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005;<br />

Non-Domestic Rating (Alteration of Lists and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2005;<br />

Producer Responsibility Obligations (Packaging Waste) (Amendment) (England and<br />

Wales) Regulations 2005; (HL Paper 105)<br />

17th Report, Special Report: The Work of the Committee in Session 2004–05. (HL Paper 106)<br />

14. Statutory Instruments—The 14th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory<br />

instruments, including the following aYrmative instrument:<br />

Draft Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005;<br />

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 107)<br />

Public Business<br />

15. Standing Orders (Public Business)—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the<br />

Standing Orders relating to public business be amended as follows:<br />

Standing Order 41 (Arrangement of the Order Paper)<br />

In paragraph (1), leave out “except on Thursdays, when business other than Unstarred<br />

Questions may be entered before Starred Questions”.<br />

In paragraph (4), leave out “Wednesdays” and insert “Thursdays”.<br />

In paragraph (5), leave out “Wednesdays” and insert “Thursdays”.<br />

Standing Order 42 (Business of which notice is not necessary)<br />

In paragraph (3), leave out “On Thursdays Bills may also be presented after Starred Questions<br />

in the afternoon”.<br />

Standing Order 71 (Laying of Statutory Instruments)<br />

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Standing Order 73 (AYrmative Instruments)<br />

In paragraph (2), leave out “the Emergency Powers Act 1920” and insert “Part 2 of the Civil<br />

Contingencies Act 2004”.<br />

the motion was agreed to; it was ordered that the amendments be printed. (HL Paper 108)<br />

16. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the<br />

bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were<br />

agreed to; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was negatived; the House was<br />

resumed.<br />

17. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were<br />

agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment<br />

was disagreed to (see division list); then the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with<br />

amendments.<br />

18. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon<br />

the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments<br />

were agreed to; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was negatived; the question<br />

that a Schedule be a Schedule to the bill was negatived; the House was resumed and the bill was<br />

reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 52)<br />

19. Mental Capacity Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendments agreed to.<br />

20. Employment Zones (Allocation of Contractors) Pilot Regulations 2005—It was moved by the<br />

Baroness Andrews, on behalf of the Baroness Hollis of Heigham, that the draft Regulations<br />

laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes before midnight<br />

till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.<br />

DIVISION<br />

COMMISSIONERS FOR REVENUE AND CUSTOMS BILL<br />

It was moved by the Lord Campbell of Alloway, after Clause 18, to insert the new Clause (Protection<br />

of confidential information); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House<br />

divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 43<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 90<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brookeborough, V.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L. [Teller]<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E. [Teller]<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

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Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Wednesday 6th April 2005<br />

The House met at half-past two o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alderdice, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Birt, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Carter of Coles, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Chester, Bp.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elis-Thomas, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

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Filkin, L.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fowler, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Freyberg, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hannay of Chiswick, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Hardie, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Healey, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Hurd of Westwell, L.<br />

Hylton, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Maginnis of Drumglass, L.<br />

Mancroft, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mason of Barnsley, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Moser, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbourne, L.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Norwich, Bp.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Owen, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peterborough, Bp.<br />

Peyton of Yeovil, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prashar, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Rawlings, B.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rees, L.<br />

Rees-Mogg, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Rennard, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rosslyn, E.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

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Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Weidenfeld, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Wilson of Dinton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of GraVham, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. A and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) (2004)—<br />

2. A and others (Appellants) (FC) and others v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined, that they be allowed to<br />

lodge one statement, one appendix and separate cases and that the respondent have leave to<br />

lodge one case (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was<br />

ordered as prayed.<br />

Papers<br />

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Cyprus—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Foreign AVairs<br />

Select Committee on Cyprus; (6506)<br />

2. Finance—Treasury Minutes on the First, Second and Fourth Reports from the<br />

Committee of Public Accounts. (6496)<br />

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. European Communities (Recognition of Professional Qualifications) (Second General<br />

System) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the European Communities Act<br />

1972; (882)<br />

2. Education (Free School Lunches) (State Pension Credit) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Education Act 1996; (885)<br />

3. Teacher Training Agency (Additional Functions) (England) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

Education Act 1994; (892)<br />

4. Occupational and Personal Pension Schemes (Pension Liberation) Regulations 2005, laid<br />

under the Pensions Act 2004; (992)<br />

5. Special Guardianship Regulations 2005, laid under the Children Act 1989; (1109)<br />

6. Draft Pensions Regulator Code of Practice: Notifiable Events, laid under the Pensions<br />

Act 2004. (—)


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5. Instrument not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following instrument was laid before<br />

the House and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Elections (Welsh Forms) Order 2005, laid under the Welsh Language Act 1993.<br />

(1105)<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

6. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following reports from the Select Committee<br />

were made and ordered to be printed:<br />

17th Report, on the following bills:<br />

Railways Bill—Government response;<br />

Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—Government response; (HL Paper 109)<br />

18th Report, Special Report on Sessions 2003–04 and 2004–05: The Work of the Committee.<br />

(HL Paper 110)<br />

7. Human Rights—The following Reports from the Joint Committee were made and ordered to be<br />

printed:<br />

Scrutiny: Final Progress Report, together with Appendices; (18th Report-HL Paper 111)<br />

The Work of the Committee in the 2001-2005 <strong>Parliament</strong>, together with Appendices. (19th<br />

Report-HL Paper 112)<br />

Public Business<br />

8. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that Standing Order<br />

41 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) be suspended until the end of the Session so far as is<br />

necessary to give Her Majesty’s Government the power to arrange the order of business; and<br />

that Standing Orders 43 (Postponement and advancement of business) and 47 (No two stages of<br />

a Bill to be taken on one day) be suspended for the same period; the motion was agreed to.<br />

9. Railways Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to (see division lists 1 and<br />

2); amendments were agreed to; the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with<br />

amendments.<br />

10. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—The report was received; amendments were agreed to;<br />

amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed<br />

to (see division lists 3 and 4); then, Standing Order 47 having been suspended, the bill was read<br />

a third time and passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.<br />

11. Finance (No. 2) Bill—A bill to grant certain duties, to alter other duties, and to amend the law<br />

relating to the National Debt and the Public Revenue, and to make further provision in<br />

connection with finance was brought from the Commons and read a first time.<br />

12. Appropriation Bill—A bill to appropriate the supply authorised in this Session of <strong>Parliament</strong> for<br />

the service of the year ending with 31st March 2006 was brought from the Commons endorsed<br />

with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read a first time.<br />

13. Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the bill be<br />

committed to a Committee of the Whole House; the motion was agreed to.<br />

14. Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Bill—After debate, the House resolved itself into a<br />

Committee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was<br />

reported with amendments; then, Standing Order 47 having been suspended, the report was<br />

received; the Queen’s consent was signified; the bill was read a third time and, after debate,<br />

passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.<br />

15. Drugs Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal that the bill be committed to a<br />

Committee of the Whole House; the motion was agreed to.<br />

16. Drugs Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved<br />

and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the question that a clause<br />

stand part of the bill was agreed to (see division list 5); the House was resumed and the bill<br />

was reported with amendments; then, Standing Order 47 having been suspended, the report<br />

was received; the bill was read a third time and passed and returned to the Commons with<br />

amendments.<br />

17. Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed<br />

to with a privilege amendment; the amendment was considered and agreed to.<br />

18. Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the<br />

amendments agreed to.<br />

19. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to with an<br />

amendment and a privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commons amendments be<br />

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20. Inquiries Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to with amendments and a<br />

privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commons amendments be printed. (HL Bill 54)<br />

21. Railways Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments disagreed to<br />

but with amendments proposed in lieu thereof; with certain amendments disagreed to with<br />

reasons for such disagreement; and with the remaining amendments agreed to; it was ordered<br />

that the Commons reasons and amendments be printed. (HL Bill 55)<br />

22. Gambling Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were<br />

moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the question<br />

that a clause stand part of the bill was disagreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was<br />

reported with amendments; then, Standing Order 47 having been suspended, the report was<br />

received; the Queen’s and Prince of Wales’s consents were signified; the bill was read a third<br />

time and passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.<br />

The House was adjourned at twenty-four minutes past eleven o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

RAILWAYS BILL<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bradshaw, in Clause 13, page 12, line 10, at end to insert:<br />

“(1A) An Executive that has been consulted under subsection (1) in relation to a franchise agreement<br />

where the services to be provided under the agreement are or include services for the carriage of<br />

passengers by railways within the passenger transport area of that Executive may, before the expiry<br />

period of 60 days following the date on which that consultation began, make a statement to the<br />

Secretary of State specifying—<br />

(a) the services for the carriage of passengers by railway which the Passenger Transport<br />

Authority for the area in question considers it appropriate to secure to meet any public<br />

transport requirements within that area, so far as relating to the provision of services of the<br />

same description as those to be provided under the franchise agreement in question;<br />

(b) any minimum level of quality to which any services so specified are to be provided;<br />

(c) any requirements with respect to the fares to be charged to persons using any services so<br />

specified; and<br />

(d) any minimum level of quality with respect to the operation of any station within the area<br />

in question which may be required by any such franchise agreement.<br />

(1B) Where a Passenger Transport Executive for an area in England submits a statement under<br />

subsection (1A) the Secretary of State shall ensure that the services, and any minimum levels of quality<br />

or requirements with respect to fares, specified in that statement are provided for in any franchise<br />

agreement into which he may enter in respect of the services in which the Executive have an interest.<br />

(1C) The Secretary of State need not do anything under subsection (1B) if or to the extent that it<br />

would—<br />

(a) have an adverse eVect on the provision of services for the carriage of passengers or goods<br />

by railway (whether inside or outside the area in question); or<br />

(b) increase the amount of any expenditure of the Secretary of State in respect of railways under<br />

agreements or any other arrangements entered into with any franchise operator, any<br />

franchisee, or any servant, agent or independent contractor of a franchise operator or<br />

franchisee, and the Secretary of State considers that the Executive would not fund that<br />

increased expenditure.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 149<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 127<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.


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Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Crawley, B. [Teller]<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackay of Clashfern, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Patten, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Steel of Aikwood, L.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Young of GraVham, L.<br />

Hardie, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.


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McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Viscount Astor, in Schedule 4, page 96, line 9, at end to insert:<br />

“(2A) The OYce of Rail Regulation shall not be entitled to make a determination under<br />

paragraph 1G(2) which is likely to lead to the services provided with the use or in respect<br />

of any railway facility being curtailed or discontinued (whether as to quality, time or in<br />

any other respect) unless the requirements of paragraph 1(G)(2B) have been complied<br />

with and the conditions in paragraph 1G(2C) have been satisfied.<br />

(2B) The requirements are that the OYce of Rail Regulation has consulted—<br />

(a) the facility owner and the beneficiaries of all access contracts in respect of the railway facility<br />

in question; and<br />

(b) the franchisee under every franchise agreement which contemplates the franchisee, or any<br />

person on its behalf, using the railway facility in question,<br />

and has taken into consideration all representations and objections made to it by those<br />

persons in respect of the proposed determination.<br />

(2C) The OYce of Rail Regulation may not make a determination under paragraph 1G(2)<br />

unless it is satisfied that—<br />

(a) the value of the rights of such facility owner and the beneficiaries under or in respect of that<br />

railway facility or those access contracts shall not be adversely aVected by the proposed<br />

determination, or that adequate financial compensation shall be payable to them out of public<br />

financial resources in respect of any such adverse eVect; and<br />

(b) in the case of a franchise agreement, the agreement shall be amended so as to relieve the<br />

franchisee from the obligation to comply with its terms to the extent that, if the agreement<br />

were not amended, compliance would be impossible or more onerous by reason of the<br />

proposed determination.<br />

(2D) If the OYce of Rail Regulation fails to make a determination under paragraph 1G(2) by<br />

reason of one or both of the considerations specified in paragraph 1G(2C), the Secretary<br />

of State or Scottish ministers as appropriate shall ensure that public financial resources<br />

shall be increased accordingly.”;<br />

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 158<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 135<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Bledisloe, V.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Carlisle of Bucklow, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Courtown, E.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon-Smith, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles, V.


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Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Feldman, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Home, E.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lane of Horsell, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B. [Teller]<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

McNally, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E. [Teller]<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Platt of Writtle, B.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Renton of Mount Harry, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Gregson, L.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Warwick, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Tugendhat, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Young of GraVham, L.<br />

Hardie, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.


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McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

SERIOUS ORGANISED CRIME AND POLICE BILL<br />

Division No. 3<br />

It was moved by the Baroness Harris of Richmond to leave out Clause 120; which being objected to,<br />

the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 60<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 141<br />

Addington, L. [Teller]<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Berkeley, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Roper, L. [Teller]<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.


390 6th April<br />

2005<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

GriYths of Burry Port, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Puttnam, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Division No. 4<br />

It was moved by the Lord Dholakia to leave out Clause 141; which being objected to, the question was<br />

put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 63<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 125<br />

Addington, L. [Teller]<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Clement-Jones, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Livsey of Talgarth, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

St. John of Bletso, L.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stoddart of Swindon, L.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Vallance of Tummel, L.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Christopher, L.


2005 6th April<br />

391<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Eatwell, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Fyfe of Fairfield, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

McDonagh, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

DRUGS BILL<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Walker of Worcester, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Winston, L.<br />

Young of Hornsey, B.<br />

Division No. 5<br />

On Question that Clause 21 stand part of the bill, the Committee divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 105<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 11<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chandos, V.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Judd, L.<br />

Kinnock, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Levy, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.


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2005<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Robertson of Port Ellen, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Cobbold, L. [Teller]<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Greaves, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scotland of Asthal, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Mancroft, L. [Teller]<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Monson, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

Rea, L.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Thursday 7th April 2005<br />

The House met at eleven o’clock.<br />

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Addington, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B.<br />

Ampthill, L.<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Armstrong of Ilminster, L.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Ashley of Stoke, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

Avebury, L.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bagri, L.<br />

Barker, B.<br />

Barnett, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhatia, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Brabazon of Tara, L.<br />

Bradshaw, L.<br />

Bragg, L.<br />

Bramall, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Brennan, L.<br />

Brett, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brittan of Spennithorne, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.<br />

Burlison, L.<br />

Burns, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Cameron of Dillington, L.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Campbell-Savours, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cobbold, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Colville of Culross, V.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Condon, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Craigavon, V.<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cuckney, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Currie of Marylebone, L.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

Darcy de Knayth, B.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L.<br />

De Mauley, L.<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Denham, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Dholakia, L.<br />

Dixon, L.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Elles, B.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Elton, L.<br />

Emerton, B.<br />

Erroll, E.<br />

Evans of Parkside, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Ezra, L.<br />

Falkender, B.<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Falkner of Margravine, B.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Fitt, L.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Freeman, L.<br />

Gale, B.


2005 7th April<br />

393<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goodhart, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Gray of Contin, L.<br />

Greengross, B.<br />

Greenway, L.<br />

Grenfell, L.<br />

Grocott, L.<br />

Hamwee, B.<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harris of Richmond, B.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hayhoe, L.<br />

Hayman, B.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Holme of Cheltenham, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Hooson, L.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Howie of Troon, L.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Inge, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

Kerr of Kinlochard, L.<br />

Kilclooney, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Kirkhill, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Laird, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lang of Monkton, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lewis of Newnham, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

McAlpine of West Green, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Mackie of Benshie, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Maclennan of Rogart, L.<br />

Maddock, B.<br />

Mar, C.<br />

Mar and Kellie, E.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Murphy, B.<br />

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Newby, L.<br />

Newton of Braintree, L.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Northover, B.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Ouseley, L.<br />

Oxburgh, L.<br />

Palmer, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Patel of Blackburn, L.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Pendry, L.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Peston, L.<br />

Phillips of Sudbury, L.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Prys-Davies, L.<br />

Quirk, L.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Razzall, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Roper, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

St John of Fawsley, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Sandberg, L.<br />

Sanderson of Bowden, L.<br />

Sandwich, E.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Seccombe, B.<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sharp of Guildford, B.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Shutt of Greetland, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Clifton, L.<br />

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Southwark, Bp.<br />

Southwell, Bp.<br />

Stern, B.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

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Thatcher, B.<br />

Thomas of Gresford, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

Tope, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Vincent of Coleshill, L.<br />

Waddington, L.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Wallace of Saltaire, L.<br />

Walmsley, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Waverley, V.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Young of Norwood Green, L.<br />

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.<br />

Judicial Business<br />

1. Oxfordshire County Council (Respondents) v. Oxford City Council (Respondents) and another<br />

(Petitioner) (2005)—The petition of Catherine Mary Robinson praying for leave to appeal<br />

was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 6th April).<br />

2. Oxfordshire County Council (Respondents) v. Oxford City Council (Petitioners) and another<br />

(Respondent) (2005)—The petition of Oxford City Council praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 6th April).<br />

3. Oxfordshire County Council (Petitioners) v. Oxford City Council and another (Respondents)<br />

(2005)—The petition of Oxfordshire County Council praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 7th April).<br />

4. Teleos plc (Petitioners) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents)—<br />

The petition of Teleos plc praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

5. Dornoch Limited and others (Petitioners) v. Royal and Sun Alliance Insurance plc<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Dornoch Limited (on behalf of all members of Syndicate<br />

1209 at Lloyd’s for the relevant underwriting years), Dornoch Limited (on behalf of all<br />

members of Syndicate 861 at Lloyd’s for the relevant underwriting years), R D Montgomerie,<br />

G Carrington, M Harrington, D P Mann, Oak Dedicated Limited, P T Cotterell, A A W<br />

SutcliV, Markel Capital Limited, J R Charman, R G M Finn, P J M Battle and A F Beazley<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

6. Warmisham (Petitioner) v. Kenneth Beavis & Co (a firm) (Respondents)—The petition of Edward<br />

Michael Warmisham praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by<br />

Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been<br />

waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

7. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Mensah (Petitioner)—The petition of Esther<br />

Modukpe Dzagbley Mensah praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited<br />

by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having<br />

been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

8. Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Appellants)—The<br />

petition of the First Secretary of State praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

9. Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (Respondent) v. Rutherford and another (FC)<br />

(Appellants) and others—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee.<br />

10. A and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) (2004)—<br />

11. A and others (Appellants) (FC) and others v. Secretary of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix<br />

and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 18th May (the agents for the<br />

respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 5th April).


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12. Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellant<br />

praying that the hearing date be vacated; and that security for costs as required by Standing<br />

Order V be waived until the review of the refusal of legal aid has been finally determined (the<br />

agents for the respondents not consenting thereto) was presented; and referred to an Appeal<br />

Committee.<br />

13. Davidson (AP) (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The appellant’s legal<br />

aid certificate was lodged.<br />

14. Appeal Committee—The 36th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Al Fayed (Petitioner) and another and others (Petitioners) v. Commissioner of Police of the<br />

Metropolis and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents<br />

be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application<br />

is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed<br />

between the parties.<br />

Lewin (Northamptonshire County Council Trading Standards Service) (Petitioner) v. Purity<br />

Soft Drinks Limited (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by<br />

21st April.<br />

R v. Bradley (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.<br />

15. Civil practice directions—The 37th Report from the Appeal Committee was made and it was<br />

ordered that the practice directions applicable to civil appeals be revoked and that the new<br />

edition agreed by the Committee be promulgated by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s.<br />

16. Criminal practice directions—The 38th Report from the Appeal Committee was made and it was<br />

ordered that the practice directions applicable to criminal appeals be revoked and that the new<br />

edition agreed by the Committee be promulgated by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s.<br />

Papers<br />

17. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her<br />

Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Intelligence Services—Report for 2004-05 of the Intelligence and Security Committee;<br />

(6510)<br />

2. Intelligence Services—Government Response to the Report for 2004–05 of the<br />

Intelligence and Security Committee; (6515)<br />

3. Intelligence Services—Government Response to the Report of the Intelligence and<br />

Security Committee on the Handling of Detainees by UK Intelligence Personnel in<br />

Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and Iraq; (6511)<br />

4. National Statistics—Public Expenditure Statistical Analyses 2005. (6521)<br />

18. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie<br />

on the Table:<br />

1. (i) Disclosure of Adoption Information (Post-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations<br />

2005— (888)<br />

(ii) Adoption Information and Intermediary Services (Pre-Commencement Adoptions)<br />

Regulations 2005— (890)<br />

laid under the Adoption and Children Act 2002;<br />

2. (i) Control of Major Accident Hazards (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (1088)<br />

(ii) Control of Vibration at Work Regulations 2005— (1093)<br />

laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;<br />

3. (i) Medicines (Advisory Bodies) Regulations 2005— (1094)<br />

(ii) Blood Safety and Quality (Amendment) Regulations 2005— (1098)<br />

(iii) Medicines for Human Use (Fees Amendments) Regulations 2005— (1124)<br />

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;<br />

4. Carers (Equal Opportunities) Act 2004 (Isles of Scilly) Order 2005, laid under the Carers<br />

(Equal Opportunities) Act 2004; (1096)<br />

5. Miscellaneous Food Additives (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2005, laid under the<br />

Food Safety Act 1990; (1099)<br />

6. National Health Service (Standing Advisory Committees) Amendment Order 2005, laid<br />

under the National Health Service Act 1977; (1100)<br />

7. Private Security Industry Act 2001 (Designated Activities) (No. 2) Order 2005, laid under<br />

the Private Security Industry Act 2001; (1107)<br />

8. Crawley College and Haywards Heath College (Dissolution) Order 2005, laid under the<br />

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9. Disability Discrimination (Providers of Services) (Adjustment of Premises)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005, laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.<br />

(1121)<br />

19. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House<br />

and ordered to lie on the Table:<br />

1. Statement of remuneration, laid under the Covent Garden Market Act 1961;<br />

2. (i) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Non-EVective Benefits and Family Pensions)<br />

Order 2005—<br />

(ii) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pay) Order 2005—<br />

(iii) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pensions Increase) Order 2005—<br />

laid under the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865;<br />

3. Northern Ireland Prison Service Corporate Plan 2005–08, laid under the Prison Act<br />

(Northern Ireland) 1953;<br />

4. Amendment List 27 to Air Publication 1269A (the Royal Air Force Manual of<br />

Assessment of Medical Fitness—Third Edition), laid under the Air Force (Constitution)<br />

Act 1917;<br />

5. Reserve Forces Pension Scheme Regulations 2005, laid under the Reserve Forces Act<br />

1996;<br />

6. Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment No. 3) 2005, laid under the<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005.<br />

Select Committee Reports<br />

20. Statutory Instruments—The minutes of proceedings of the Joint Committee for Session 2004–05<br />

were ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 113)<br />

21. Constitution Committee—The 6th Report from the Select Committee on <strong>Parliament</strong> and the<br />

Legislative Process: The Government’s Response was made and ordered to be printed. (HL<br />

Paper 114)<br />

Public Business<br />

22. Crossrail Bill—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldham that if a Crossrail Bill is brought from<br />

the House of Commons in the next session of <strong>Parliament</strong> the Standing Orders of the House<br />

applicable to the bill, so far as complied with or dispensed with in this session, shall be deemed<br />

to have been complied with or (as the case may be) dispensed with in the next session; after<br />

debate, the motion was agreed to and it was ordered that a message be sent to the Commons<br />

to acquaint them therewith.<br />

23. Inquiries Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered; a motion to disagree with a<br />

Commons amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); a motion to disagree with certain<br />

other Commons amendments was disagreed to (see division list 2); the remaining Commons<br />

amendment was agreed to.<br />

24. Disability Discrimination Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered and agreed to.<br />

25. Railways Bill—The Commons amendments and reasons were considered; a motion that the House<br />

do insist on certain Lords amendments was moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn and<br />

the amendments were not insisted on; another Lords amendment was not insisted on and the<br />

Commons amendments in lieu thereof were agreed to.<br />

26. Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the<br />

amendments agreed to.<br />

27. Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the<br />

amendments agreed to.<br />

28. Drugs Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendments agreed to.<br />

29. Finance (No. 2) Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the bill be now read<br />

a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the Committee was negatived; then,<br />

Standing Order 47 having been suspended, the bill was read a third time and passed.


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30. Appropriation Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the bill be now read a<br />

second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committee was negatived; then, Standing<br />

Order 47 having been suspended, the bill was read a third time and passed.<br />

31. Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2) Rules 2005—It was moved by the Baroness Ashton of<br />

Upholland that the Rules laid before the House on 14th March be approved; after debate, the<br />

motion was agreed to.<br />

32. Education Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons with amendments; the Commons<br />

amendments were considered forthwith and agreed to, and the privilege amendment was<br />

agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

33. Crossrail Bill—A message was brought from the Commons that they have made the following<br />

orders:<br />

That further proceedings on the Crossrail Bill shall be suspended until the next session of<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>;<br />

That if a Bill is presented in the next session in the same terms as the Crossrail Bill when it was<br />

presented in this session—<br />

(a) the Bill shall be ordered to be printed and shall be deemed to have been read the first<br />

time; and<br />

(b) the Standing Orders of the House applicable to the Bill, so far as complied with or<br />

dispensed with in this session, shall be deemed to have been complied with or (as the<br />

case may be) dispensed with in the next session;<br />

That these Orders be Standing Orders of the House.<br />

34. Gambling Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments disagreed to<br />

with reasons for such disagreement and with the remaining amendments agreed to; the<br />

Commons reasons were considered forthwith and the Lords amendments were not insisted on.<br />

35. International Organisations Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to with a<br />

privilege amendment; the privilege amendment was considered and agreed to.<br />

The House was adjourned during pleasure.<br />

The House was resumed.<br />

36. Royal Commission—The Lords Commissioners being seated, the Lord Chancellor in the middle<br />

with the Lord President (Baroness Amos) and the Lord McNally on his right-hand and the<br />

Lord Strathclyde and the Lord Molyneaux of Killead on his left and the Commons being<br />

present at the Bar with their Speaker, the Commission for Royal Assent and Prorogation<br />

dated this day was read.<br />

37. Royal Assent—The following Acts received the Royal Assent:<br />

Finance Act c. 7<br />

Appropriation (No. 2) Act c. 8<br />

Mental Capacity Act c. 9<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Act c. 10<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Act c. 11<br />

Inquiries Act c. 12<br />

Disability Discrimination Act c. 13<br />

Railways Act c. 14<br />

Serious Organised Crime and Police Act c. 15<br />

Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act c. 16<br />

Drugs Act c. 17<br />

Education Act c. 18<br />

Gambling Act c. 19<br />

International Organisations Act c. 20<br />

38. The Queen’s Speech—The Queen’s Speech was delivered by the Lord Chancellor.<br />

39. Prorogation—<strong>Parliament</strong> was prorogued to Thursday 14th April.


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DIVISIONS<br />

INQUIRIES BILL [HL]<br />

Division No. 1<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, as an amendment to the motion that this House do agree with the<br />

Commons in their Amendment 1, to leave out “agree” and insert “disagree”; which being objected to,<br />

the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 89<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 142<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Attlee, E.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Acton, L.<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Billingham, B.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Boston of Faversham, L.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Chan, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clark of Windermere, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Hanham, B.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Henley, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

Kimball, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laidlaw, L.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

Lyell, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Masham of Ilton, B.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Molyneaux of Killead, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Coity, L.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Donoughue, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Falconer of Thoroton, L.<br />

(Lord Chancellor)<br />

Falkland, V.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Finlay of LlandaV, B.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Roberts of Conwy, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Ryder of Wensum, L.<br />

Saatchi, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Sharples, B.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Stewartby, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Wade of Chorlton, L.<br />

Wakeham, L.<br />

Windlesham, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Gordon of Strathblane, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

JoVe, L.<br />

Jones, L.<br />

Jordan, L.


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King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Listowel, E.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Ludford, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Methuen, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Parekh, L.<br />

Patel, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Powell of Bayswater, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Radice, L.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Rogan, L.<br />

Rooker, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Scott of Needham Market, B.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Walpole, L.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Crosby, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Williamson of Horton, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

Division No. 2<br />

It was moved by the Lord Kingsland to disagree with Commons amendments 2 and 3 en bloc; which<br />

being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:<br />

Contents … … … … … … 87<br />

Not-Contents … … … … … 135<br />

Ackner, L.<br />

Allenby of Megiddo, V.<br />

Anelay of St Johns, B.<br />

Arran, E.<br />

Astor, V.<br />

Astor of Hever, L.<br />

BiVen, L.<br />

Blackwell, L.<br />

Blaker, L.<br />

Bridgeman, V.<br />

Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.<br />

Buscombe, B.<br />

Byford, B.<br />

Campbell of Alloway, L.<br />

Colwyn, L.<br />

Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]<br />

Crathorne, L.<br />

Crickhowell, L.<br />

Cumberlege, B.<br />

Donaldson of Lymington, L.<br />

Dundee, E.<br />

Eccles, V.<br />

Eccles of Moulton, B.<br />

Eden of Winton, L.<br />

Elliott of Morpeth, L.<br />

Ferrers, E.<br />

Fookes, B.<br />

Forsyth of Drumlean, L.<br />

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.<br />

CONTENTS<br />

Gardner of Parkes, B.<br />

Geddes, L.<br />

Glentoran, L.<br />

Hanningfield, L.<br />

Higgins, L.<br />

Hooper, B.<br />

Howe, E.<br />

Howe of Aberavon, L.<br />

Howe of Idlicote, B.<br />

Howell of Guildford, L.<br />

Jellicoe, E.<br />

Jenkin of Roding, L.<br />

King of Bridgwater, L.<br />

Kingsland, L.<br />

Knight of Collingtree, B.<br />

Laing of Dunphail, L.<br />

Lamont of Lerwick, L.<br />

Lawson of Blaby, L.<br />

Liverpool, E.<br />

Lucas, L.<br />

Luke, L.<br />

McColl of Dulwich, L.<br />

MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.<br />

Marlesford, L.<br />

Mayhew of Twysden, L.<br />

Monro of Langholm, L.<br />

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.<br />

Montrose, D.<br />

Morris of Bolton, B.<br />

Mowbray and Stourton, L.<br />

Naseby, L.<br />

Noakes, B.<br />

Northbrook, L.<br />

Northesk, E.<br />

Norton of Louth, L.<br />

O’Cathain, B.<br />

Peel, E.<br />

Perry of Southwark, B.<br />

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.<br />

Plumb, L.<br />

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.<br />

Reay, L.<br />

Renton, L.<br />

Rotherwick, L.<br />

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.<br />

Seccombe, B. [Teller]<br />

Selborne, E.<br />

Selsdon, L.<br />

Shaw of Northstead, L.<br />

Skelmersdale, L.<br />

Strathclyde, L.<br />

Swinfen, L.<br />

Thatcher, B.<br />

Trefgarne, L.<br />

Trenchard, V.<br />

Trumpington, B.<br />

Ullswater, V.<br />

Windlesham, L.


400 7th April<br />

2005<br />

Ahmed, L.<br />

Alli, L.<br />

Alton of Liverpool, L.<br />

Amos, B. (Lord President)<br />

Andrews, B.<br />

Archer of Sandwell, L.<br />

Ashton of Upholland, B.<br />

Bach, L.<br />

Bassam of Brighton, L.<br />

Beaumont of Whitley, L.<br />

Bernstein of Craigweil, L.<br />

Bhattacharyya, L.<br />

Borrie, L.<br />

Bridges, L.<br />

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.<br />

Brookman, L.<br />

Carter, L.<br />

Christopher, L.<br />

Clarke of Hampstead, L.<br />

Clinton-Davis, L.<br />

Cohen of Pimlico, B.<br />

Corbett of Castle Vale, L.<br />

Crawley, B.<br />

D’Souza, B.<br />

Dahrendorf, L.<br />

David, B.<br />

Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]<br />

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.<br />

Dearing, L.<br />

Desai, L.<br />

Drayson, L.<br />

Dubs, L.<br />

Elder, L.<br />

Evans of Temple Guiting, L.<br />

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.<br />

Faulkner of Worcester, L.<br />

Filkin, L.<br />

Gale, B.<br />

Garden, L.<br />

Giddens, L.<br />

Gilbert, L.<br />

Golding, B.<br />

Goldsmith, L.<br />

Goudie, B.<br />

Gould of Potternewton, B.<br />

NOT-CONTENTS<br />

Graham of Edmonton, L.<br />

Grocott, L. [Teller]<br />

Harris of Haringey, L.<br />

Harrison, L.<br />

Hart of Chilton, L.<br />

Haskel, L.<br />

Haworth, L.<br />

Hilton of Eggardon, B.<br />

Hollis of Heigham, B.<br />

Howarth of Breckland, B.<br />

Hoyle, L.<br />

Hughes of Woodside, L.<br />

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.<br />

Irvine of Lairg, L.<br />

Janner of Braunstone, L.<br />

Jordan, L.<br />

King of West Bromwich, L.<br />

Laming, L.<br />

Lea of Crondall, L.<br />

Leitch, L.<br />

Lester of Herne Hill, L.<br />

Lipsey, L.<br />

Lockwood, B.<br />

Macdonald of Tradeston, L.<br />

McIntosh of Haringey, L.<br />

McIntosh of Hudnall, B.<br />

MacKenzie of Culkein, L.<br />

McKenzie of Luton, L.<br />

Marsh, L.<br />

Massey of Darwen, B.<br />

Maxton, L.<br />

Merlyn-Rees, L.<br />

Morgan, L.<br />

Morgan of Drefelin, B.<br />

Morris of Manchester, L.<br />

Neuberger, B.<br />

Nicol, B.<br />

Paul, L.<br />

Pitkeathley, B.<br />

Plant of Highfield, L.<br />

Prosser, B.<br />

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.<br />

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.<br />

Redesdale, L.<br />

Rendell of Babergh, B.<br />

Richard, L.<br />

Rix, L.<br />

Roberts of Llandudno, L.<br />

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.<br />

Rosser, L.<br />

Rowlands, L.<br />

Royall of Blaisdon, B.<br />

Russell-Johnston, L.<br />

Sainsbury of Turville, L.<br />

Sawyer, L.<br />

Sewel, L.<br />

Sheldon, L.<br />

Simon, V.<br />

Slim, V.<br />

Smith of Leigh, L.<br />

Snape, L.<br />

Stone of Blackheath, L.<br />

Strabolgi, L.<br />

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.<br />

Taverne, L.<br />

Taylor of Blackburn, L.<br />

Temple-Morris, L.<br />

Thomas of Walliswood, B.<br />

Thomson of Monifieth, L.<br />

Thornton, B.<br />

Tomlinson, L.<br />

TordoV, L.<br />

Triesman, L.<br />

Truscott, L.<br />

TunnicliVe, L.<br />

Turnberg, L.<br />

Turner of Camden, B.<br />

Uddin, B.<br />

Wall of New Barnet, B.<br />

Warner, L.<br />

Warnock, B.<br />

Warwick of UndercliVe, B.<br />

Watson of Invergowrie, L.<br />

Wedderburn of Charlton, L.<br />

Whitaker, B.<br />

Whitty, L.<br />

Wilkins, B.<br />

Williams of Elvel, L.<br />

Woolmer of Leeds, L.<br />

Wright of Richmond, L.<br />

BY THE QUEEN<br />

A PROCLAMATION<br />

FOR DISSOLVING THE PRESENT PARLIAMENT AND<br />

DECLARING THE CALLING ANOTHER<br />

Whereas We have thought fit, by and with the advice of Our Privy Council, to dissolve this present<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>, which stands prorogued to Thursday, the fourteenth day of April; We do, for that End,<br />

publish this Our Royal Proclamation, and do hereby dissolve the said <strong>Parliament</strong> accordingly: And the<br />

Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and the Members of the House of Commons, are discharged from<br />

further Attendance thereat: And We being desirous and resolved, as soon as may be, to meet Our People,<br />

and to have their Advice in <strong>Parliament</strong>, do hereby make known to all Our loving Subjects Our Royal<br />

Will and Pleasure to call a new <strong>Parliament</strong>: and do hereby further declare, that, by and with the advice<br />

of Our Privy Council, We have given Order that Our Chancellor of Great Britain and Our Secretary of<br />

State for Northern Ireland do respectively, upon Notice thereof, forthwith issue out Writs, in due Form<br />

and according to Law, for calling a new <strong>Parliament</strong>; And We do hereby also, by this Our Royal<br />

Proclamation under Our Great Seal of Our Realm, require Writs forthwith to be issued accordingly by<br />

Our said Chancellor and Secretary of State respectively, for causing the Lords Spiritual and Temporal<br />

and Commons who are to serve in the said <strong>Parliament</strong> to be duly returned to, and give their Attendance<br />

in, Our said <strong>Parliament</strong> on Wednesday, the eleventh day of May next, which Writs are to be returnable<br />

in due course of Law.


2005 7th-13th April<br />

401<br />

Given at Our Court at Windsor Castle, this eleventh day of April in the Year of our Lord two<br />

thousand and five and in the fifty-fourth year of Our Reign.<br />

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN<br />

HoVman, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

[Judicial Sittings during the Dissolution of <strong>Parliament</strong>, by the<br />

Lords of Appeal in the name of the House of Lords authorised<br />

by virtue of a Writing by Her Majesty The Queen under Her Sign Manual,<br />

dated 11th April 2005, pursuant to the Appellate Jurisdiction Act 1876]<br />

Wednesday 13th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. Hearing and determination of appeals—<strong>Parliament</strong> having been dissolved by Her Majesty by<br />

Proclamation under the Great Seal dated in the morning of 11th April 2005, the Lord Speaker<br />

(Lord Bingham of Cornhill) acquainted their Lordships that Her Majesty had issued a Writing<br />

(pursuant to section 9 of the Appellate Jurisdiction Act 1876) authorising the Lords of Appeal<br />

to hear and determine appeals during the dissolution of <strong>Parliament</strong> and for that purpose to<br />

sit in the House of Lords; and to act in all matters in relation thereto as if such sittings were<br />

a continuation of the sittings of the House of Lords and, in the name of the House of Lords,<br />

to exercise the jurisdiction of the House of Lords accordingly (see Appendix), which Writing<br />

was read.<br />

2. Appeal Committee—A Committee was appointed, which shall include all Lords qualified under<br />

the provisions of the Appellate Jurisdiction Act 1876, to hear such petitions as shall be referred<br />

to it during the dissolution of <strong>Parliament</strong>.<br />

3. Appellate Committee—A Committee was appointed, which shall include all Lords qualified under<br />

the provisions of the Appellate Jurisdiction Act 1876, to hear such appeals as shall be referred<br />

to it during the dissolution of <strong>Parliament</strong>.<br />

4. J & H Ritchie Limited (Appellants) v. Lloyd Limited (Respondents) (Scotland)—The appeal of J<br />

& H Ritchie Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order<br />

VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 25th May (lodged 8th April).<br />

5. Mayne Pharma Pty Limited and others (Petitioners) v. Pharmacia Italia SpA (Respondents)—The<br />

petition of Mayne Pharma Pty Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred<br />

to an Appeal Committee.<br />

6. Majrowski (Respondent) v. Guy’s and St. Thomas’ NHS Trust (Petitioners)—The petition of<br />

Guy’s and St. Thomas’ NHS Trust praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee.<br />

7. Hare (Petitioner) v. Leeds City Council and others (Respondents)—The petition of Margaret Hare<br />

praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has<br />

expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

8. Thornhill (trustee of Clive W Atherton) (Respondent) v. Atherton (Petitioner) and others<br />

(Respondents)—The petition of Clive William Atherton praying for leave to appeal was<br />

presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee<br />

pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee<br />

(lodged 8th April).<br />

9. Ntiamoah-Kumah (Petitioners) v. Osbournes (a firm) (Respondents)—The petition of Jackson<br />

Ntiamoah-Kumah and Comfort Ntiamoah-Kumah praying for leave to appeal<br />

notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without<br />

payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to<br />

Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

10. Ali (FC) (Respondent) v. Headteacher and Governors of Lord Grey School (Appellants)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

11. R (on the application of Hammond) (FC) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Appellant) (Criminal Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

12. Standard Commercial Property Securities Limited and others (Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council (Appellants) and others (Scotland)—


402 13th April<br />

2005<br />

13. Standard Commercial Property Securities Limited and others (Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council and others (Appellants) (Scotland)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix<br />

and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 25th May (the agents for the<br />

respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

14. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Appellant) v. M (Respondent)—The petition of the<br />

appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 26th May next (the agents for the respondent<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

15. Appeal Committee—The First Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the<br />

following Order was made—<br />

R (on the application of Nunn) (Petitioner) v. First Secretary of State (Respondent)—That T-<br />

Mobile be joined as a respondent to the petition for leave to appeal.<br />

16. Appeal Committee—The 2nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Adam (FC)<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Tesema<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Limbuela<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

That the petition of the National Council for Civil Liberties and Justice that they might be<br />

heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeals be allowed to the extent that they may lodge<br />

written submissions only.<br />

17. Appeal Committee—The 3rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Jackson and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent)—That the<br />

petition of the League Against Cruel Sports Limited that they might be heard or otherwise<br />

intervene in the said appeal be allowed to the extent that they may lodge written submissions<br />

only.<br />

18. Appeal Committee—The 4th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—That the petition of the<br />

appellant praying that the hearing date be vacated; and that security for costs as required by<br />

Standing Order V be waived until the review of the refusal of legal aid has been finally<br />

determined be allowed.<br />

19. Greenalls Management Limited (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants)—<br />

The cause was fully heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at twenty minutes before four o’clock<br />

till Monday next, half-past ten o’clock.<br />

APPENDIX<br />

ELIZABETH R.<br />

Right trusty and well beloved Counsellors We greet you well<br />

Whereas by reason of the dissolution of Our late <strong>Parliament</strong> it has appeared to Us to be expedient, with<br />

a view to prevent delay in the administration of justice, to provide for the hearing and determination of<br />

appeals depending before Us in Our Court of <strong>Parliament</strong> during such dissolution<br />

Now, We do hereby, in pursuance of the Appellate Jurisdiction Act, 1876, authorise you, Our Lords of<br />

Appeal, as therein designated, in the name of the House of Lords, to hear and determine such appeals<br />

during such dissolution, and for that purpose to sit in the House of Lords during such dissolution at<br />

such times as you may think expedient<br />

Given at Our Court at Windsor the 11th day of April in the fifty-fourth year of Our Reign<br />

BY HER MAJESTY’S COMMAND<br />

To Our right trusty and well beloved Counsellor Charles Leslie Baron Falconer of Thoroton and to Our<br />

right trusty and well beloved Counsellors Our Lords of Appeal


2005 18th April<br />

403<br />

Monday 18th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

1. Fourie (Petitioner) v. Le Roux and others (Respondents)—The petition of John Louis Carter<br />

Fourie praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee<br />

(lodged 7th April).<br />

2. AMEC Civil Engineering Limited (Petitioners) v. Secretary of State for Transport (Respondent)—<br />

The petition of AMEC Civil Engineering Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented<br />

and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. In re J (a child) (FC)—The petition of the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia praying for leave to intervene<br />

in the said appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Davidson (AP) (Appellant) v. Scottish Ministers (Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the<br />

appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 31st May (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

5. MH (by her litigation friend, OYcial Solicitor) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Department of Health (Appellant) and others—The petition of the appellant praying that the<br />

time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be<br />

extended to 9th May (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it<br />

was ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 5th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

A and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)<br />

(2004)—That the petition of the AIRE Centre, Amnesty International Limited, the<br />

Association for the Prevention of Torture, British Irish Rights Watch, the Committee on the<br />

Administration of Justice, Doctors for Human Rights, Human Rights Watch, the<br />

International Federation of Human Rights, INTERIGHTS, the Law Society of England and<br />

Wales, Liberty, the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture, REDRESS and<br />

the World Organisation Against Torture that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in<br />

the said appeal be allowed.<br />

7. Appeal Committee—The 6th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Appellants)—<br />

That the petition of the First Secretary of State that he might be heard or otherwise intervene<br />

in the said appeal be allowed.<br />

8. Appeal Committee—The 7th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Miles (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of Kent (Respondent)—That the petition be dismissed<br />

as inadmissible.<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Bhamjee (Petitioner)—That the petition be<br />

dismissed as inadmissible.<br />

R v. Coutts (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be<br />

lodged by 2nd May.<br />

Szuluk (FC) (Petitioner) v. Governor of HMP Full Sutton and another (Respondents)—That<br />

leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the<br />

Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in<br />

accordance with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be<br />

certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

R (on the application of Nilsen) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Governor of HMP Full Sutton and<br />

another (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be<br />

taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999; and that the respondents be at liberty<br />

to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted,<br />

that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the<br />

parties.


404 18th-20th April<br />

2005<br />

9. R v. Z (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at four o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half past ten o’clock.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Tuesday 19th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

1. R (on the application of Gillan (FC) and another (FC)) (Appellants) v. Commissioner of Police for<br />

the Metropolis and another (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and<br />

referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

2. Powerhouse Retail Limited and others (Respondents) v. Burroughs and others (Appellants)—The<br />

appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

3. R v. Z (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland) (Northern Ireland)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at twenty minutes past noon<br />

till tomorrow, half-past ten o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 20th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Hale of Richmond, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Woolf, L.<br />

1. Sherrington and others (Petitioners) v. Sherrington (Respondent)—The petition of Daliah Dorit<br />

Sherrington, Donna Karina Sherrington and Ramon Gerrard David Sherrington praying for<br />

leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

2. London Borough of Tower Hamlets (Petitioners) v. Begum (Respondent)—The petition of the<br />

Mayor and Burgesses of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets praying for leave to appeal<br />

was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. Appeal Committee—The 8th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Bultitude (Petitioner) v. Law Society (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the<br />

respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if<br />

the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s<br />

if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Gravgaard (Petitioner) v. Aldridge & Brownlee (a firm) (Respondents)—That leave to appeal<br />

be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

Lincoln National Life Insurance Company (Petitioners) v. Sun Life Assurance Company of<br />

Canada and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be<br />

at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is<br />

granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed<br />

between the parties.<br />

Scribes West Limited (Petitioners) v. Anstalt and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal<br />

be refused; that the first and third respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in<br />

accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be<br />

certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.


2005 20th-21st April<br />

405<br />

4. Appeal Committee—The 9th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

In re J (a child) (FC)—That the petition of the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia that they might be<br />

heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be refused.<br />

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Bagdanavicius (FC)<br />

and another (Appellants)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.<br />

6. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at twenty minutes past four o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half past ten o’clock.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Thursday 21st April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Hutton, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

1. NCR Limited (Petitioners) v. Riverland Portfolio No. 1 Limited (Respondents)—The petition of<br />

NCR Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

2. Government of Albania (Petitioners) v. Bleta and others (Respondents)—The petition of the<br />

Government of the Republic of Albania praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the<br />

Extradition Act 2003 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. Law Society (Respondents) v. Sephton & Co (a firm) (Appellants) and another and others<br />

(Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement<br />

and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 2nd June (the<br />

agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

4. Feasey (a representative Lloyd’s underwriter suing on his own behalf and on behalf of all the<br />

members of Syndicate 957) (Respondent) v. Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada<br />

(Appellants) and others and one other action—<br />

5. Steamship Mutual Underwriting Association (Bermuda) Limited (Respondents) v. Feasey (a<br />

representative Lloyd’s underwriter suing on his own behalf and on behalf of all the members<br />

of Syndicate 957) (Appellant) and one other action—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of the appellants was presented praying that the appeals be withdrawn on the<br />

terms agreed between the parties (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto); and it<br />

was ordered as prayed.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 10th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given;<br />

and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th May.<br />

Department for Work and Pensions (Respondents) v. Webley (Petitioner)—That leave to<br />

appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with<br />

direction 5.1(d); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties.<br />

R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs (Petitioner) and others—That leave to appeal be given;<br />

and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th May.<br />

7. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Bagdanavicius (FC)<br />

and another (Appellants)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

8. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—<br />

The cause was further heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned during pleasure.<br />

Their Lordships resumed in the Chamber.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

Woolf, L.


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9. JD (FC) (Appellant) v. East Berkshire Community Health NHS Trust and others (Respondents)<br />

and two other actions (FC)—It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 31st<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was<br />

agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 31st July 2003<br />

be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed; and that the question of costs be adjourned in order that<br />

the parties may make written submissions within 14 days. [2005] UKHL 23<br />

10. Brooks (FC) (Respondent) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Appellant) and others—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 32nd Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and<br />

adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 26th March 2002, so far as appealed<br />

against, be set aside; that the respondent do pay to the appellant his costs in the Central<br />

London County Court, in the Court of Appeal and in this House; that the order for costs in<br />

the Central London County Court be not enforced without the permission of that Court; and<br />

that the amounts of the costs in the Court of Appeal and in this House, if any, to be paid by<br />

the respondent and to be paid out of the Community Legal Service Fund be determined by a<br />

Costs Judge for those costs incurred in the Court of Appeal and certified by the Clerk of the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>s for those incurred in this House in accordance with section 11 of the Access to<br />

Justice Act 1999 and regulation 5(2) of the Community Legal Service (Costs Protection)<br />

Regulations 2000. [2005] UKHL 24<br />

11. Regina v. Mushtaq (Appellant)(On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Rodger of Earlsferry on behalf of the Lord Steyn, That the 33rd Report<br />

from the Appellate Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to.<br />

It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal Criminal Division of 30th<br />

July 2002 be aYrmed; that the certified question be answered in the aYrmative; and the appeal<br />

dismissed. [2005] UKHL 25<br />

Their Lordships adjourned during pleasure.<br />

Their Lordships resumed in Committee Room No. 2<br />

12. Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole Board (Respondents)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at four o’clock<br />

till Monday next, half-past ten o’clock.<br />

Monday 25th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. Regina v. Secretary of State for Education and Employment and others (Respondents) ex parte<br />

Williamson (Appellant) and others—Further to Order of the House of Thursday 24th<br />

February 2005 (23rd Report Session 2004-05; [2005] UKHL 15), it was Ordered that the Order<br />

for costs made by Mr Justice Elias on 15 November 2001 be aYrmed; that the Order of Her<br />

Majesty’s Court of Appeal of 12 December 2002 aYrmed by this House on 24 February 2005<br />

be varied so far as regards costs; that there be no order for costs in the Court of Appeal; and<br />

that there be no order for costs in this House.<br />

2. Leeds City Council (Respondents) v. Price and others and others (FC) (Appellants) (England)—<br />

The appeal of Kim Maloney, Patrick Maloney (senior), Ellen Maloney, Patrick Maloney<br />

(junior) and Kathleen Maloney was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 6th June. The<br />

appellants’ certificate of public funding was lodged (lodged 18th April).<br />

3. Bailey and others (Respondents) v. Home OYce (Petitioners)—The petition of the Home OYce<br />

praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged<br />

22nd April).<br />

4. Durant (Petitioner) v. Financial Services Authority (Respondents)—The petition of Michael John<br />

Durant praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order<br />

II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.


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5. Horton (Original Appellant and Cross-respondent) v. Sadler and others (Original Respondents<br />

and Cross-appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate<br />

Committee.<br />

6. Massey and another (Appellants) v. Boulden and another (Respondents)—The petition of the<br />

appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the<br />

cause for hearing might be extended to 6th June (the agents for the respondents consenting<br />

thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

7. Harding (Appellant) v. Wealands (Respondent)—The petition of the appellant praying that the<br />

time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be<br />

extended to 23rd May (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and<br />

it was ordered as prayed.<br />

8. National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Spectrum Plus Limited and others and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at four o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half past ten o’clock.<br />

Tuesday 26th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Appellants)—<br />

2. Mitchell and others (Respondents) v. Al-Dali and others and Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia) (Appellants)—<br />

3. Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya AS Saudiya (the <strong>Kingdom</strong> of<br />

Saudi Arabia) (Respondents)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The appeals were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

4. National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Spectrum Plus Limited and others and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

The cause was further heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at four o’clock till tomorrow, half past ten o’clock.<br />

Wednesday 27th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Scott Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Spectrum Plus Limited and others and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

The cause was further heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at four o’clock till tomorrow, half past ten o’clock.


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2005<br />

Thursday 28th April 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestinghope, L.<br />

1. Murphy (Petitioner) v. Slough Borough Council and others (Respondents)—The petition of<br />

Shahina Murphy praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by<br />

Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

2. Tehrani (AP) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)<br />

(Scotland)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and<br />

appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 9th June (the agents<br />

for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

3. National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Spectrum Plus Limited and others and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned during pleasure.<br />

Their Lordships resumed in the Chamber.<br />

4. O’Brien (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of South Wales Police (Appellant)—It was moved by the<br />

Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 34th Report from the Appellate Committee of the late<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order<br />

of the Court of Appeal of 23rd July 2003 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed; and that the<br />

appellant do pay to the respondent his costs in this House, the amount thereof to be certified<br />

by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 26<br />

5. Concord Trust (Original Appellants and Cross-respondents) v. Law Debenture Trust Corporation<br />

plc (Original Respondents and Cross-appellants)—It was moved by the Lord Steyn, That the<br />

35th Report from the Appellate Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion<br />

was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed and the cross-appeal<br />

dismissed; that paragraphs 2 to 4 of the Order of the Court of Appeal of 28th July 2004 be set<br />

aside; that it be declared that “the Trustee (subject to receiving a satisfactory costs indemnity)<br />

is forthwith obliged to give a Condition 12 notice to Elektrim that the Bonds are accelerated”;<br />

that any outstanding issue as to the costs indemnity to which the Trustee is entitled be a matter<br />

for the court at first instance; and that the original respondents do pay to the original<br />

appellants their costs in the High Court of Justice Chancery Division, in the Court of Appeal<br />

and in the appeal and cross-appeal in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to<br />

be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 27<br />

6. Quintavalle (on behalf of Comment on Reproductive Ethics) (Appellant) v. Human Fertilisation<br />

and Embryology Authority (Respondents)—It was moved by the Lord Steyn, That the 36th<br />

Report from the Appellate Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was<br />

agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 16th May<br />

2003 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the<br />

Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 28<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at two o’clock<br />

till Wednesday next, half-past ten o’clock


2005 4th May<br />

409<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Wednesday 4th May 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

HoVman, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. In re McKerr (AP) (Respondent) (Northern Ireland)—Further to the Judgment of the House of<br />

11th March 2004 (21st Report Session 2003-04; [2004] UKHL 12), and the Order of the House<br />

of 30th March 2004, it was Ordered that the Order for costs be varied so far as regards costs<br />

in the High Court of Justice in Northern Ireland and the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland<br />

and it was Ordered, that there be no order for costs between the parties, and that there be<br />

taxation of the costs of the respondent by the Taxing Master in Northern Ireland in<br />

accordance with the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981 in the<br />

High Court of Justice in Northern Ireland and in the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland.<br />

2. Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Group plc (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland<br />

Revenue and another (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Deutsche Morgan Grenfell<br />

Group plc was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the<br />

statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th June.<br />

3. R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs and others (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of<br />

Covent Garden Market Authority was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with<br />

Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th June.<br />

4. Land Securities Group plc (Appellants) v. Scottish Ministers and others (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland)—The appeal of Land Securities Group plc was presented and it was ordered that<br />

in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or<br />

before 15th June.<br />

5. MoncrieV and another (Respondents) v. Jamieson and others (Appellants) (Scotland)—The<br />

appeal of Keith Jamieson, Eloise Jamieson and Bruce Jamieson was presented and it was<br />

ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be<br />

lodged on or before 15th June.<br />

6. R v. Coutts (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))—The appeal of<br />

Graham James Coutts was presented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures<br />

applicable thereto.<br />

7. London Borough of Enfield (Respondents) v. Sivanandan (Petitioner)—The petition of Natasha<br />

Sivanandan praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing<br />

Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived<br />

by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to<br />

an Appeal Committee.<br />

8. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Adam (FC)<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

9. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Tesema<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

10. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Limbuela<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

The petition of Shelter praying for leave to intervene in the said appeals was presented and<br />

referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

11. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Barclays Bank plc<br />

(Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.<br />

12. Jackson and others (Appellants) v. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent)—The petition<br />

of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting<br />

down the cause for hearing might be extended to 18th May (the agents for the respondent<br />

consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.<br />

13. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 36th Report, Session 2004-05:<br />

Lewin (Northamptonshire County Council Trading Standards Service) (Petitioner) v. Purity<br />

Soft Drinks Limited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be<br />

at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 6.1(e); and, if the application is<br />

granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed<br />

between the parties.


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14. Appeal Committee—The 11th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Melville (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the<br />

respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d); and, if the<br />

application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if<br />

not agreed between the parties.<br />

Jameel and others (Respondents) v. Wall Street Journal Europe Sprl (Petitioners)—That leave<br />

to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 18th May.<br />

15. Appeal Committee—The 12th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) v. K (Petitioner)—That leave to<br />

appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 18th May.<br />

Connex South Eastern Limited (Petitioners) v. Bangs (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be<br />

given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 18th May.<br />

In re W (children)—That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible.<br />

16. In re J (a child) (FC)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at five minutes past four o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half past ten o’clock.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Carswell, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, L.<br />

Thursday 5th May 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

HoVman, L.<br />

Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs (Appellant) and others (England)—The appeal of the<br />

Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural AVairs was presented and it was ordered<br />

that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on<br />

or before 16th June.<br />

2. AyliVe and others (Petitioners) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent)—The petition of<br />

Benjamin AyliVe, Natalie Duck, Belinda Fletcher, James Footner, Janice Harron, Oliver<br />

Knowles, Jens Loewe, Rachel Murray, Robin Oakley, Ashby Smith, Graham Thompson,<br />

Helen Wallace, Richard Watson and Laura Yates praying for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

3. Swain (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent)—The petition of Valerie Swain<br />

praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented<br />

and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. In re J (a child) (FC)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned during pleasure.<br />

Their Lordships resumed in the Chamber.<br />

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Appellant) ex parte Hooper and others (FC)<br />

(Respondents)—<br />

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Hooper (Appellant) and<br />

others—<br />

7. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Hooper and others (FC)<br />

(Appellants)<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 37th Report from the Appellate<br />

Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and<br />

adjudged that the appeal of the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions be allowed and the<br />

appeals of Mr Hooper, Mr Withey, Mr Naylor and Mr Martin dismissed; that the Order of<br />

the Court of Appeal of 18th June 2003 and the Order of Mr Justice Moses in the High Court<br />

of Justice Queen’s Bench Division Administrative Court of 27th February 2002 be set aside so<br />

far as appealed against by the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions; and that the question


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411<br />

of costs be adjourned in order that the parties may make written submissions within 14 days.<br />

[2005] UKHL 29<br />

8. Regina v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents) ex parte Wilkinson<br />

(FC) (Appellant)—It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 38th Report<br />

from the Appellate Committee of the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to.<br />

It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 18th June 2003 be<br />

aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with no order as to costs. [2005] UKHL 30<br />

9. N (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—It was moved<br />

by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 39th Report from the Appellate Committee of<br />

the late <strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that<br />

the Order of the Court of Appeal of 16th October 2003 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed<br />

with costs; and that the amounts thereof, if any, to be paid by the appellant and to be paid out<br />

of the Community Legal Service Fund be certified by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s in<br />

accordance with section 11 of the Access to Justice Act 1999, the amount thereof to be certified<br />

by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s if not agreed between the parties. [2005] UKHL 31<br />

10. Ward (Respondent) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants)—It was<br />

moved by the Lord Steyn, That the 40th Report from the Appellate Committee of the late<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order<br />

of the Court of Appeal of 30th July 2003 be set aside; that the Order of Mr Recorder Layton<br />

QC in the Central London County Court of 21st October 2002 be restored so far as it<br />

dismissed the claims against both defendants in that Court; and that there be no order as to<br />

costs in this House or in the courts below. [2005] UKHL 32<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at two minutes past two o’clock<br />

till Monday next, half-past ten o’clock.<br />

Monday 9th May 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

Brown of Eatonunder<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

HoVman, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Phillips of Worth Matravers, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. O (FC) (Appellant) v. Crown Court at Harrow (Respondents) (Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The appeal of O was presented and ordered to be<br />

prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.<br />

2. In re O (Appellant) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus) (Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice)—The appeal of O was presented and ordered to be<br />

prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.<br />

3. In re Marotta (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus) (Northern Ireland)—The<br />

petition of Luigi Marotta praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be<br />

lodged and for leave to appeal in accordance with the Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978<br />

was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

4. Law Society (Original Respondents and Cross-petitioners) v. Sephton & Co (a firm) (Original<br />

Petitioners and Cross-respondents) and another and others (Original Petitioners and Crossrespondents)—The<br />

petition of the Law Society praying for leave to cross-appeal was<br />

presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.<br />

5. R (on the application of Corporation of London) (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for<br />

Environment, Food and Rural AVairs and others (Appellants)—It was ordered that the<br />

appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as<br />

required by Standing Order.<br />

6. Lesotho Highlands Development Authority (Respondents) v. Impregilo SpA and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.


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2005<br />

7. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Kehoe (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—<br />

The cause was in part heard.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at four o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past ten o’clock.<br />

Bingham of Cornhill, L.<br />

Brown of Eaton-under-<br />

Heywood, L.<br />

Hale of Richmond, B.<br />

Tuesday 10th May 2005<br />

Their Lordships met at half-past ten o’clock in Committee Room No. 1<br />

The following Lords of Appeal were present:<br />

HoVman, L.<br />

Hope of Craighead, L.<br />

Phillips of Worth Matravers, L.<br />

Rodger of Earlsferry, L.<br />

Scott of Foscote, L.<br />

Steyn, L.<br />

Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.<br />

1. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Pelling (Petitioner) (First petition)—The petition<br />

of Michael John Pelling praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of<br />

Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 21st February).<br />

2. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Pelling (Petitioner) (Second petition)—The<br />

petition of Michael John Pelling praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the<br />

Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee<br />

(lodged 21st April).<br />

3. R (on the application of Laporte) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of Gloucestershire<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis praying for<br />

leave to intervene in the said petition for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee.<br />

4. R (on the application of Laporte) (FC) (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of Gloucestershire<br />

(Respondent)—The petition of the Chief Constable of the Thames Valley Police praying for<br />

leave to intervene in the said petition for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an<br />

Appeal Committee.<br />

5. Appeal Committee—The 13th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Order was made—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Adam (FC)<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Tesema<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Limbuela<br />

(Respondent)—<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)—<br />

That the petition of Shelter that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeals<br />

be allowed.<br />

6. Appeal Committee—The 14th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following<br />

Orders were made—<br />

Agassi (Respondent) v. Robinson (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Petitioner)—That leave<br />

to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 24th May.<br />

Kinane (Respondent) v. Mackie-Conteh (Petitioner) and others—That the respondent be<br />

invited to lodge objections by 24th May.<br />

Telewest Communications plc and others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise (Petitioners)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by<br />

24th May.<br />

7. Lesotho Highlands Development Authority (Respondents) v. Impregilo SpA and others<br />

(Appellants)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

8. Regina v. Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Respondent) ex parte Kehoe (FC)<br />

(Appellant)—<br />

The cause was further and fully heard and consideration was adjourned sine die.<br />

Their Lordships adjourned at five minutes past three o’clock<br />

till tomorrow, half-past ten o’clock.


2004–05 413<br />

G E N E R A L I N D E X<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Abbreviations:<br />

1 a ; 2 a ; 3 a First, second, third readings<br />

CWH Committee of the Whole House<br />

DPRRC Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform<br />

Committee<br />

GC<br />

Grand Committee<br />

HC<br />

House of Commons<br />

HL<br />

House of Lords<br />

HM<br />

Her Majesty<br />

JCCB Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills<br />

JCHR Joint Committee on Human Rights<br />

JCSI<br />

Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments<br />

RA<br />

Royal Assent<br />

SO<br />

Standing Order<br />

UBC Unopposed Bill Committee<br />

Finding aids:<br />

AFFIRMATIVE INSTRUMENTS<br />

AMENDMENTS TO MOTIONS<br />

COMMITTEES<br />

DIVISIONS<br />

GRAND COMMITTEE<br />

MOTIONS (including motions to<br />

annul (“Prayers”))<br />

“PING-PONG”<br />

PRE-LEGISLATIVE SCRUTINY<br />

PRIVATE BILLS<br />

PUBLIC BILLS<br />

SPECIAL PROCEDURE ORDERS<br />

UNSTARRED QUESTIONS<br />

Quick finder:<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] carried over: 24 Nov 04, 8-9<br />

Extended uses of Grand Committee: see Grand Committee<br />

Resolution time-limiting Unstarred Questions in Grand Committee: 31 Jan 05, 143<br />

Debate on committee report in Grand Committee time-limited: 21 Feb 05, 197<br />

All-night sitting on Prevention of Terrorism Bill: 10 Mar 05, 287<br />

11 Mar treated as separate sitting for Lords expenses: 24 Mar 05, 364<br />

A27:<br />

Unstarred question, 25 Jan, 131.<br />

Access to Justice Act 1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Feb, 150; 10 Mar, 285; 4<br />

Apr, 373; 5 Apr, 379.<br />

Access to Justice (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2003:<br />

Papers (per Order): 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Administration and Works<br />

Committee:<br />

Appointed, 6 Dec, 37.<br />

No reports in Session 2004-05.<br />

Reports from Session 2003-04<br />

1st (Smoking): amendment, after debate,<br />

disagreed to (div), further amendment,<br />

after debate, agreed to (div), report as<br />

amended agreed to, 21 Dec, 86.<br />

Adoption Act 1976:<br />

Papers (per Act): 22 Mar, 349.<br />

Adoption and Children Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Mar, 238; 4 Apr, 371; 7<br />

Apr, 395.<br />

Adults with Incapacity (Scotland)<br />

Act 2000 (Consequential<br />

Modifications) (England, Wales<br />

and Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 25 Jan, 130; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170.<br />

Affirmative Instruments:<br />

Hybrid instruments are marked *. Special procedure<br />

orders are listed separately. Regulatory<br />

reform orders are indexed individually<br />

but not included here<br />

See<br />

Adults with Incapacity (Scotland) Act<br />

2000 (Consequential Modifications)<br />

(England, Wales and Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Agency for International Trade<br />

Information and Co-operation (Legal<br />

Capacities) Order 2004.


414 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Agriculture (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2004.<br />

Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act<br />

2001 (Continuance in Force of<br />

Sections 21 to 23) Order 2005.<br />

Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline<br />

Acts (Continuation) Order 2005.<br />

Asylum (Designated States) Order 2005.<br />

Budget (Northern Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Building Societies Act 1986<br />

(International Accounting<br />

Standards and Other Accounting<br />

Amendments) Order 2004.<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s<br />

Allowance (Decisions and Appeals)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2004.<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s<br />

Allowance Up-Rating Order 2005.<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s<br />

Allowance Up-Rating (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Child Support (Miscellaneous<br />

Amendments) Regulations 2005.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Appeals)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Appeals) (Northern<br />

Ireland) Regulations 2005.<br />

Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2)<br />

Rules 2005.<br />

Code of Audit Practice for Local NHS<br />

Bodies (2005).<br />

Code of Audit Practice for Local<br />

Government Bodies (2005).<br />

Community Interest Company<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Community Legal Service (Asylum and<br />

Immigration Appeals) Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

Companies Act 1985 (Operating and<br />

Financial Review and Director’s<br />

Report etc.) Regulations 2005.<br />

Companies Act 1989 (Delegation) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Company Directors Disqualification<br />

(Amendment) (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Contracting Out (Functions in<br />

Relation to Cultural Objects) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Courts Act 2003 (Consequential<br />

Provisions) Order 2005.<br />

Criminal Defence Service (Choice in<br />

Very High Cost Cases) (Amendment<br />

No. 2) Regulations 2004.<br />

Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of<br />

Offences) Order 2004.<br />

Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Criminal Procedure and Investigations<br />

Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Data Protection (Subject Access<br />

Modification) (Social Work)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Direction Given on 1st April by the<br />

Secretary of State for Northern<br />

Ireland under the Northern Ireland<br />

Act 1998, Regarding Reduction of<br />

Financial Assistance.<br />

District Policing Partnerships<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Drainage (Amendment) (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Education (Additional Support for<br />

Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004<br />

(Consequential Modifications) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland)<br />

1962 (Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland)<br />

1962 (Amendment No. 2) Order 2005.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland)<br />

1962 (Amendment No. 3) Order 2005.<br />

Electricity and Gas (Energy Efficiency<br />

Obligations) Order 2004.<br />

Employment Zones (Allocation of<br />

Contractors) Pilot Regulations 2005.<br />

Environmental Information<br />

Regulations 2004.<br />

European Communities (Definition of<br />

Treaties) (European Police Office)<br />

Order 2004.<br />

European Communities (Immunities and<br />

Privileges of the European Police<br />

Office) (Amendment) Order 2004.<br />

European Police College (Immunities<br />

and Privileges) Order 2004.<br />

Extradition Act 2003 (Amendment to<br />

Designations) Order 2005.<br />

Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3<br />

Designation) (Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Financial Provisions (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2004.<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act<br />

2000 (Carrying on Regulated<br />

Activities by Way of Business)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act<br />

2000 (Regulated Activities)<br />

(Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2004.<br />

Firearms (Amendment) (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Freedom of Information (Time for<br />

Compliance with Request)<br />

Regulations 2004.<br />

Freedom of Information (Removal and<br />

Relaxation of Statutory Prohibitions<br />

on Disclosure of Information) Order<br />

2004.<br />

Gangmasters (Licensing Authority)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Gender Recognition (Approved<br />

Countries and Territories) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Government Resources and Accounts<br />

Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies)<br />

Order 2005.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

415<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Higher Education (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Immigration and Asylum (Provision of<br />

Accommodation to Failed Asylum-<br />

Seekers) Regulations 2005.<br />

Immigration (Leave to Enter and<br />

Remain) (Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Industrial Training Levy (Construction<br />

Board) Order 2005.<br />

Industrial Training Levy (Engineering<br />

Construction Board) Order 2005.<br />

Information and Consultation of<br />

Employees Regulations 2004.<br />

Insolvency (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Institute of Trade Mark Attorneys<br />

Order 2004.<br />

International Criminal Court<br />

(Immunities and Privileges) Order<br />

2004.<br />

Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions)<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Local Authorities (Contracting Out of<br />

Bid Levy Billing, Collection and<br />

Enforcement Functions) Order 2004.<br />

Local Authorities’ Plans and Strategies<br />

(Disapplication) (England) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Local Government (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Motor Vehicles (Wearing of Seat Belts)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005.<br />

New Opportunities Fund (Specification<br />

of Initiative) Order 2005.<br />

Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable<br />

Amounts) (England) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable<br />

Amounts) (England) Regulations<br />

2004.<br />

Northern Ireland Act 2000<br />

(Modification) Order 2005.<br />

Northern Ireland Arms<br />

Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty<br />

Period) Order 2005.<br />

Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998<br />

(Specified Organisations) Order 2004.<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes<br />

(Modification of Pension Protection<br />

Provisions) Regulations 2005.<br />

Offshore Petroleum Activities (Oil<br />

Pollution Prevention and Control)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Open-Ended Investment Companies<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005.<br />

Opticians Act 1989 (Amendment) Order<br />

2005.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Constituencies<br />

(Scotland) Order 2005.<br />

Pension Protection Fund (Pension<br />

Compensation Cap) Order 2005.<br />

Pension Protection Fund (PPF<br />

Ombudsman) Order 2005.<br />

Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed<br />

Forces and Reserve Forces<br />

Compensation Scheme) (Rights of<br />

Appeal) Regulations 2005.<br />

Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers’<br />

Compensation) (Payment of Claims)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005<br />

Political Parties, Elections and<br />

Referendums Act 2000 (Disapplication<br />

of Part IV for Northern Ireland<br />

Parties, etc) Order 2005.<br />

Private Security Industry Act 2001<br />

(Amendments to Schedule 2) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004<br />

(Relaxation of Restriction on<br />

Disclosure) Order 2005.<br />

Public Processions (Amendment)<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Regulation of Investigatory Powers<br />

(Communications Data) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Regulation of Investigatory Powers<br />

(Directed Surveillance and Covert<br />

Human Intelligence Sources)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Remand in Custody (Effect of<br />

Concurrent and Consecutive<br />

Sentences of Imprisonment) Rules<br />

2005.<br />

Renewables Obligation Order 2005.<br />

Representation of the People (Variation<br />

of Limits of Candidates’ Election<br />

Expenses) (City of London) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Restriction on the Preparation of<br />

Adoption Reports Regulations 2005.<br />

Revised Funding Code Prepared by the<br />

Legal Services Commission.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of<br />

Functions to the Scottish Ministers<br />

etc.) Order 2005.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of<br />

Schedule 5) Order 2005.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of<br />

Schedule 5) (No. 2) Order 2005.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (River Tweed) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Social Security Benefits Up-Rating<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Social Security, Child Support and Tax<br />

Credits (Decisions and Appeals)<br />

Amendment Regulations 2004.<br />

Social Security Commissioners<br />

(Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

Social Security Commissioners<br />

(Procedure) (Child Trust Funds)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Social Security (Contributions) (Re-<br />

Rating and National Insurance<br />

Funds Payments) Order 2005.<br />

Social Security (Inherited SERPS)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005.


416 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Social Security (Intensive Activity<br />

Period 50 to 59 Pilot) Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

Social Security (Intensive Activity<br />

Period 50 to 59 Pilot) (No. 2)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Special Educational Needs and<br />

Disability (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2005.<br />

Special Immigration Appeals Commission<br />

(Procedure) (Amendment) Rules 2005.<br />

Suitability of Adopters Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

Tax Credits Up-Rating Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

Terrorism Act 2000 (Continuance of<br />

Part VII) Order 2005.<br />

Town and Country Planning (Fees for<br />

Applications and Deemed<br />

Applications) (Amendment) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005.<br />

Unauthorised Encampments (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005.<br />

Water Fluoridation (Consultation)<br />

(England) Regulations 2005.<br />

Water Supply (Fluoridation<br />

Indemnities) (England) Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

*West Northamptonshire Development<br />

Corporation (Area and Constitution)<br />

Order 2004.<br />

Agency for International Trade<br />

Information and Co-Operation<br />

(Legal Capacities) Order 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

Age-Related Payments Act 2004:<br />

DPRRC Report, 8 Dec, 52.<br />

Agriculture (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Nov, 7; referred to GC, 6 Dec,<br />

38; GC, 13 Dec, 61; approved, 14 Dec, 65;<br />

14 Jan, 109.<br />

Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Nov, 3; 14 Dec, 65; 10<br />

Jan, 94; 14 Jan, 109; 4 Feb, 159; 15 Mar,<br />

321; 4 Apr, 373; 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Airports Act 1986:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Feb, 212.<br />

Amendments to Motions:<br />

See<br />

Administration and Works Committee<br />

(1st Report 2003-04).<br />

Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of<br />

Offences) Order 2004.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland)<br />

1962 (Amendment) Order 2005.<br />

Electoral Registration (Northern<br />

Ireland) Bill [HL] (2a).<br />

Higher Education (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005.<br />

Procedure Committee (1st Report).<br />

Animal Health and Welfare Act<br />

1984:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56.<br />

Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 22 Mar, 349.<br />

Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security<br />

Act 2001:<br />

Papers (per Act): 22 Feb, 206.<br />

Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security<br />

Act 2001 (Continuance in Force<br />

of Sections 21 to 23) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 27 Jan, 138; Merits report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; JCSI report, 22 Feb, 206.<br />

Appeal Committees:<br />

Appointed 23 Nov, 3; 13 Apr, 401.<br />

Appellate Committees:<br />

Appointed 23 Nov, 3; 13 Apr, 401.<br />

Appropriation Bill (Money):<br />

(Appropriation (No. 2) Act 2005)<br />

1a, 6 Apr, 384; 2a, Committee negatived, 3a,<br />

passed, RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Armed Forces (Pensions and<br />

Compensation) Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Mar, 316.<br />

Army, Air Force and Naval<br />

Discipline Acts (Continuation)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Assisted Dying for the Terminally<br />

Ill Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 24 Nov, 8; after debate 2a, committed to<br />

SC, 29 Nov, 18; committee appointed, 30<br />

Nov, 22; report, 15 Mar, 321.<br />

Asylum and Immigration (Treatment<br />

of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60; 11 Jan, 97; 10<br />

Mar, 285.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

417<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Asylum (Designated States) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 18 Jan, 115; JCSI report, 25 Jan,<br />

131; after debate approved, 4 Feb, 159.<br />

Aviation and Maritime Security Act<br />

1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Aviation Security Act 1982:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Bank of England Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Mar, 331.<br />

BBC Charter Committee:<br />

Appointed, 2 Mar, 239.<br />

Bills:<br />

See Private Bills and Public Bills.<br />

Biological Standards Act 1975:<br />

Papers (per Act): 28 Feb, 224.<br />

Borough Freedom (Family<br />

Succession) Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 25 Nov, 12; after debate 2a , committed to<br />

CWH, 7 Dec, 42; DPRRC report, 8 Dec,<br />

52; order of commitment discharged, 11<br />

Jan, 97; 3a, passed, sent HC, 18 Jan, 116.<br />

Boundary Commission for Scotland:<br />

Papers (by command): 14 Dec, 64.<br />

Bovine Tuberculosis:<br />

Unstarred question in GC, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

British Nationality Act 1981:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Broadcasting Act 1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Dec, 75; 20 Dec, 78; 7<br />

Feb, 162.<br />

Budget:<br />

Papers (by command): 2 Dec, 32; 16 Mar,<br />

330.<br />

Budget (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; referred to GC, 7 Mar,<br />

256; GC, 15 Mar, 322, 327; approved, 17<br />

Mar, 336.<br />

Building Act 1984:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Building Societies Act 1986:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Dec, 37.<br />

Building Societies Act 1986<br />

(International Accounting<br />

Standards and other<br />

Accounting Amendments) Order<br />

2004:<br />

After debate approved, 16 Dec, 75.<br />

Business of the House:<br />

Unstarred questions in Grand Committee<br />

time limited: 31 Jan, 143.<br />

Amendments on Third Reading: 7 Mar, 256.<br />

Arrangement of the Order Paper: 29 Nov, 16;<br />

14 Mar, 317; 6 Apr, 384.<br />

Postponement and advancement of business:<br />

3 Feb, 155; 24 Feb, 218; 22 Mar, 350; 6<br />

Apr, 384.<br />

Reference to Grand Committee: 31 Jan, 142;<br />

28 Feb, 225; 10 Mar, 286; 14 Mar, 317; 21<br />

Mar, 342.<br />

Two stages on one day: 24 Nov, 9; 15 Dec, 70;<br />

21 Feb, 197; 1 Mar, 234; 7 Mar, 256; 14<br />

Mar, 317; 6 Apr, 384.<br />

Short Debate rules applied,<br />

1° hours: 23 Feb, 213.<br />

2 hours: 12 Jan, 102; 2 Feb, 151; 3 Feb, 154.<br />

2° hours: 1 Dec, 27; 16 Mar, 331; 23 Mar,<br />

360.<br />

3 hours: 26 Jan, 135; 21 Feb, 197 (committee<br />

report in GC).<br />

3° hours: 26 Jan, 135; 23 Feb, 213.<br />

4 hours: 8 Dec, 52; 2 Feb, 151.<br />

5 hours: 12 Jan, 102.<br />

By-Elections:<br />

See Membership of the House at back of<br />

volume.<br />

Care of Cathedrals (Amendment)<br />

Measure:<br />

Measure with report of Ecclesiastical Committee,<br />

24 Feb, 217; after debate approved,<br />

22 Mar, 351; RA, 24 Mar, 365.<br />

Care Standards Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 284.<br />

Carers (Equal Opportunities) Act<br />

2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Apr, 395.<br />

Caribbean Banana Growers:<br />

Unstarred question, 14 Jan, 109.


418 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Carry-Over of Public Bills:<br />

See Constitutional Reform Bill [HL].<br />

Chairman of Committees:<br />

Lord Brabazon of Tara appointed, nemine<br />

dissentiente, Chairman of Committees, 23<br />

Nov, 3.<br />

Channel Tunnel (Security) Order<br />

1994:<br />

Papers (per Order): 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Charities Act 1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 29 Nov, 15; 13 Jan, 105; 10<br />

Mar, 285.<br />

Charities Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 20 Dec, 79; DPRRC<br />

report, 19, Jan, 119; after debate 2a, committed<br />

to GC, 20 Jan, 123; marshalling<br />

order, 25 Jan, 131; GC, 3 Feb, 157; 9 Feb,<br />

179; 10 Feb, 184; 23 Feb, 213; 8 Mar, 275;<br />

14 Mar, 317; 16 Mar, 332; 21 Mar, 342,<br />

346.<br />

Charities Bill, Draft:<br />

Government response to JC report, 21 Dec,<br />

85.<br />

Charity:<br />

Papers (by command): 20 Dec, 77.<br />

Child Abduction and Custody Act<br />

1985:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s<br />

Allowance (Decisions and<br />

Appeals) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 16 Dec, 75.<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s<br />

Allowance Up-Rating<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Child Benefit and Guardian’s<br />

Allowance Up-Rating Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Child Benefit Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 4 Feb, 159; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to GC, 3 Mar, 252;<br />

DPRRC report, 9 Mar, 279; order of commitment<br />

discharged, committed to CWH,<br />

10 Mar, 287; order of commitment<br />

discharged, 17 Mar, 336; 3a, passed, RA,<br />

24 Mar, 365.<br />

Child Support (Miscellaneous<br />

Amendments) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Feb, 150; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Child Trust Funds Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Dec, 85; 4 Feb, 158; 24<br />

Mar, 364.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Dec, 85; JCSI report, 11 Jan,<br />

97; referred to GC, 31 Jan, 143; GC, 21<br />

Feb, 198, 202; approved, 22 Feb, 207.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Appeals)<br />

(Northern Ireland) Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; approved, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Child Trust Funds (Appeals)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; after debate approved, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Children:<br />

Papers (by command): 18 Jan, 115.<br />

Children Act 1989:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Dec, 51; 21 Dec, 85; 8<br />

Mar, 263; 10 Mar, 284, 286; 6 Apr, 383.<br />

Children Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Children (Contact) and Adoption<br />

Bill, Draft:<br />

Presented, 2 Feb, 150; motion to appoint<br />

joint committee, agreed to, message to HC,<br />

2 Feb, 151; message from HC, 8 Feb, 171;<br />

joint committee appointed, message to<br />

HC, 9 Feb, 178; Lord substituted, 2 Mar,<br />

239; report, 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Children in Care:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

9 Feb, 178.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

419<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Church of England (Miscellaneous<br />

Provisions) Measure:<br />

Measure with report of Ecclesiastical Committee,<br />

24 Feb, 218; after debate approved,<br />

22 Mar, 351; RA, 24 Mar, 365.<br />

Civil Aviation Act 1949:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 94.<br />

Civil Contingencies Act 2004:<br />

Papers (by command): 9 Dec, 55.<br />

Civil List:<br />

Papers (by command): 21 Mar, 340.<br />

Civil Partnership Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Civil Procedure Act 1997:<br />

Papers (per Act): 30 Nov, 21; 10 Jan, 93; 28<br />

Feb, 224.<br />

Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 2)<br />

Rules 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 14 Mar, 316; Merits report, 22<br />

Mar, 349; JCSI report, 5 Apr, 379; after<br />

debate approved, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Clean Neighbourhoods and<br />

Environment Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 22 Feb, 207; after<br />

debate 2a, 22 Mar, 350; committed to<br />

CWH, after debate CWH, report, Queen’s<br />

consent, 3a, after debate passed, returned<br />

HC with amendments, 6 Apr, 384; from<br />

HC agreed to, 7 Apr, 396; RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Climate Change (EUC Report):<br />

Motion to take note, after debate agreed to,<br />

23 Feb, 213.<br />

Coal Industry Act 1994:<br />

Papers (per Act): 29 Nov, 15.<br />

Code of Audit Practice for Local<br />

Government Bodies (2005):<br />

Draft laid, 27 Jan, 138; approved, 9 Mar, 280.<br />

Code of Audit Practice for Local<br />

NHS Bodies (2005):<br />

Draft laid, 27 Jan, 138; approved, 9 Mar, 280.<br />

Commercial Debts:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Nov, 3.<br />

Commissioner for Older People<br />

(Wales) Bill, Draft:<br />

Presented, 22 Mar, 349.<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and<br />

Customs Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 27 Jan, 139; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to GC, 7 Feb, 165;<br />

DPRRC report, 21 Feb, 197; marshalling<br />

order, 21 Feb, 197; GC, 22 Feb, 209; 24<br />

Feb, 221; GC, 2 Mar, 240, 245; report (2<br />

divs), 22 Mar, 350; 3a (div), passed, returned<br />

HC with amendments, 5 Apr, 380;<br />

from HC agreed to, 6 Apr, 384; RA, 7<br />

Apr, 397.<br />

Committees:<br />

See<br />

Administration and Works Committee<br />

Appeal Committees<br />

Appellate Committees<br />

BBC Charter Committee<br />

Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill,<br />

Draft<br />

Consolidation Bills Joint Committee<br />

Constitution Committee<br />

Delegated Powers and Regulatory<br />

Reform Committee<br />

Ecclesiastical Committee<br />

Economic Affairs Committee<br />

European Union Committee<br />

House Committee<br />

Human Rights, Joint Committee on<br />

Hybrid Instruments Committee<br />

Information Committee<br />

Liaison Committee<br />

Mental Health Bill, Draft<br />

Merits of Statutory Instruments<br />

Committee<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Broadcasting Unit<br />

Limited (Parbul)<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Office of Science and<br />

Technology (Post)<br />

Personal Bills Committee<br />

Privileges, Committee for<br />

Procedure of the House Committee<br />

Refreshment Committee<br />

Science and Technology Committee<br />

Selection, Committee of<br />

Standing Orders (Private Bills)<br />

Committee<br />

Statutory Instruments Joint Committee<br />

Tax Law Rewrite Bills Joint Committee<br />

Works of Art Committee<br />

Common Agricultural Policy<br />

Single Payment Scheme (Set-<br />

Aside) (England) Regulations<br />

2004:<br />

Motion to revoke, after debate withdrawn, 2<br />

Mar, 240.


420 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Commonhold and Leasehold Reform<br />

Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 30 Nov, 21; 7 Feb, 162.<br />

Communications Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 20 Dec, 78; 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Community Interest Company<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 1 Mar, 232; withdrawn, 17 Mar,<br />

335; second draft laid, 17 Mar, 335; JCSI<br />

report, 22 Mar, 350.<br />

Community Legal Service (Asylum<br />

and Immigration Appeals)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 23 Feb, 211; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263; after debate approved, 22 Mar, 351.<br />

Companies:<br />

Papers (by command): 17 Mar, 335.<br />

Companies Act 1985:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Companies Act 1985 (Operating and<br />

Financial Review and Directors’<br />

Report etc.) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 12 Jan, 101; JCSI report, 18 Jan,<br />

115; referred to GC, 10 Feb, 182; order of<br />

reference discharged, 7 Mar, 256; after<br />

debate approved, 16 Mar, 332.<br />

Companies Act 1989 (Delegation)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Feb, 217; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263.<br />

Companies (Audit, Investigations<br />

and Community Enterprise) Act<br />

2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Company Directors<br />

Disqualification (Amendment)<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 20 Jan, 122.<br />

Consolidated Fund (Appropriation)<br />

Bill (Money):<br />

(Appropriation Act 2005)<br />

1a, 10 Mar, 287; 2a, Committee negatived,<br />

3a, passed, 16 Mar, 332; RA, 17 Mar, 336.<br />

Consolidated Fund Bill (Money):<br />

(Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Act<br />

2004):<br />

1a, 14 Dec, 65; 2a, Committee negatived, 3a,<br />

passed, RA, 16 Dec, 75.<br />

Consolidation Bills Joint<br />

Committee:<br />

Not appointed.<br />

Constitution Committee:<br />

Appointed, 1 Dec, 27.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Inquiries Bill [HL]), 15 Dec, 70.<br />

2nd (Prevention of Terrorism Bill), 2 Mar,<br />

239.<br />

3rd (Serious Organised Crime and Police<br />

Bill), 2 Mar, 239.<br />

4th (First Progress Report 2004-05), 9 Mar,<br />

279.<br />

5th (Identity Cards Bill), 9 Mar, 279.<br />

6th (<strong>Parliament</strong> and the Legislative Process:<br />

Government Response), 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Reports from Session 2003-04<br />

6th (Regulatory State: Ensuring its<br />

Accountability), debated, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

Constitutional Affairs:<br />

Papers (by command): 21 Feb, 195.<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [HL]:<br />

1a; Queen’s consent; after debate, 2a; committed<br />

to CWH, 24 Nov, 8-9; marshalling<br />

order, 29 Nov, 18; report (3 divs), 7 Dec,<br />

42; report, 14 Dec, 65-6; DPRRC report,<br />

15 Dec, 70; 3a (2 divs), passed, sent HC<br />

with amendments, 20 Dec, 79; from HC<br />

with amendments, 2 Mar, 239; Government<br />

response to Commons SC report, 7<br />

Mar, 255; DPRRC report, 9 Mar, 279;<br />

LCCA (2 divs), 15 Mar, 322; from HC with<br />

amendments, 17 Mar, 336; LCCA (2 divs),<br />

21 Mar, 342; RA, 24 Mar, 365.<br />

Consular Relations Act 1968:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Consumer Credit Act 1974:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56.<br />

Consumer Credit Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 7 Mar, 256.<br />

Contingent Liabilities:<br />

Papers (by command): 24 Nov, 7; 2 Dec, 32;<br />

8 Feb, 169; 7 Mar, 255; 24 Mar, 363; 4<br />

Apr, 371.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

421<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Contracting Out (Functions in<br />

Relation to Cultural Objects)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Feb, 217; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263; referred to GC, 21 Mar, 342; GC, 23<br />

Mar, 360, 361; approved, 24 Mar, 365.<br />

Copyright, Designs and Patents Act<br />

1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Feb, 169; 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Corporate Manslaughter Bill,<br />

Draft:<br />

Presented, 23 Mar, 359.<br />

Council of Europe:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Mar, 359.<br />

Countryside and Rights of Way Act<br />

2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 61.<br />

Courts Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 30 Nov, 21; 10 Feb, 182; 7<br />

Mar, 255; 8 Mar, 262; 9 Mar, 278; 10 Mar,<br />

285; 24 Mar, 364; 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Courts Act 2003 (Consequential<br />

Provisions) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; after debate approved, 17 Mar, 336.<br />

Courts and Legal Services Act 1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Mar, 262; 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Courts-Martial (Appeals) Act 1968:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Mar, 255.<br />

Covent Garden Market Act 1961:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Crime and Disorder Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 371.<br />

Crime (International Co-Operation)<br />

Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Mar, 239.<br />

Crime Prevention:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

8 Dec, 52.<br />

Criminal Appeal Act 1995:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Nov, 12.<br />

Criminal Defence Service Bill,<br />

Draft:<br />

Government response to Commons Committee<br />

report, 24 Nov, 7; framework document,<br />

16 Dec, 74.<br />

Criminal Defence Service (Choice in<br />

Very High Cost Cases)<br />

(Amendment No. 2) Regulations<br />

2004:<br />

After debate approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

Criminal Injuries Compensation Act<br />

1995:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 197.<br />

Criminal Justice:<br />

Papers (by command): 24 Jan, 126.<br />

Criminal Justice Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Mar, 316.<br />

Criminal Justice Act 2003<br />

(Categories of Offences) Order<br />

2004:<br />

JCHR report, 1 Dec, 27; after debate, amendment<br />

disagreed to (div), motion to approve<br />

agreed to, 14 Dec, 65.<br />

Criminal Justice and Court Services<br />

Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Feb, 150; 21 Feb, 195; 10<br />

Mar, 283.<br />

Criminal Justice and Police Act<br />

2001:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Dec, 36; 21 Dec, 85; 10<br />

Mar, 286; 14 Mar, 316; 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Criminal Justice and Police Act<br />

2001 (Amendment) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 10 Feb, 182; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; referred to GC, 15 Mar, 322; GC, 22<br />

Mar, 350, 356; approved, 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Criminal Procedure and<br />

Investigations Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 197.<br />

Criminal Procedure and<br />

Investigations Act 1996 (Code of<br />

Practice) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263; referred to GC, 15 Mar, 322; GC, 22<br />

Mar, 350, 356; approved, 24 Mar, 365.


422 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Criminal Trials:<br />

Unstarred question, 17 Jan, 112.<br />

Critical National Infrastructure:<br />

Unstarred question, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

Crossrail Bill (Hybrid):<br />

Examiner’s certificate, 10 Mar, 286; standing<br />

orders committee report, 22 Mar, 350;<br />

carry-over motion, message to HC, 7 Apr,<br />

396; message re carry-over motion from<br />

HC, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Crown Agents Act 1979:<br />

Papers (per Act): 11 Jan, 97.<br />

Cultural Activities:<br />

Papers (by command): 2 Mar, 238.<br />

Culture:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Mar, 359.<br />

Cyprus:<br />

Papers (by command): 6 Apr, 383.<br />

Damages Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Mar, 278.<br />

Data Protection Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56; 10 Jan, 94; 7<br />

Mar, 256.<br />

Data Protection (Subject Access<br />

Modification) (Social Work)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 26 Jan, 134; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 3 Mar, 252.<br />

Deaths of Members:<br />

See Membership of the House at back of<br />

volume.<br />

Defence:<br />

Motion to take note, after debate agreed to,<br />

17 Jan, 112.<br />

Papers (by command): 2 Dec, 32; 15 Dec, 69;<br />

20 Dec, 78; 20 Jan, 122 (withdrawn 21 Feb,<br />

195); 25 Jan, 130; 9 Feb, 177; 5 Apr, 378.<br />

Delegated Powers and Regulatory<br />

Reform Committee:<br />

Appointed, 30 Nov, 22.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (International Organisations Bill [HL];<br />

Inquiries Bill [HL]; Borough Freedom<br />

(Family Succession) Bill [HL];<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner<br />

(Amendment) Bill [HL]; Age-Related<br />

Payments Act 2004), 8 Dec, 52.<br />

2nd (Proposal for the draft Regulatory<br />

Reform (Prison OYcers) (Industrial<br />

Action) Order 2004; Proposal for the<br />

draft Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature<br />

Conservation Committee) Order 2005), 8<br />

Dec, 52.<br />

3rd (Proposal for the Draft Regulatory<br />

Reform (Registration of Births and<br />

Deaths) (England and Wales) Order<br />

2004.<br />

4th (Disability Discrimination Bill [HL];<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill<br />

[HL]; Education Bill [HL]; Succession to<br />

the Crown Bill [HL]), 15 Dec, 70.<br />

5th (Constitutional Reform Bill [HL]), 15<br />

Dec, 70.<br />

6th (Mental Capacity Bill; Charities Bill<br />

[HL]; Income Tax (Trading and Other<br />

Income) Bill; Renewable Energy Bill<br />

[HL]; Disability Discrimination Bill<br />

[HL]), 19 Jan, 119.<br />

7th (Management of OVenders and<br />

Sentencing Bill [HL]; School Transport<br />

Bill; TraYc Wardens and Parking<br />

Attendants Bill [HL]), 2 Feb, 150.<br />

8th (Draft Regulatory Reform (Prison<br />

OYcers) (Industrial Action) Order 2005;<br />

Draft Regulatory Reform (Trading<br />

Stamps) Order 2005; Draft Regulatory<br />

Reform (Joint Nature Conservation<br />

Committee) Order 2005), 2 Feb, 150.<br />

9th (Electoral Registration (Northern<br />

Ireland) Bill [HL]; Commissioners for<br />

Revenue and Customs Bill; Mental<br />

Capacity Bill), 21 Feb, 197.<br />

10th (Railways Bill), 23 Feb, 212.<br />

11th (Gambling Bill), 23 Feb, 212.<br />

12th (Prevention of Terrorism Bill;<br />

Gambling Bill), 28 Feb, 224.<br />

13th (Child Benefit Bill; Mental Capacity<br />

Bill; Constitutional Reform Bill [HL];<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill), 9 Mar, 279.<br />

14th (Draft Regulatory Reform (National<br />

Health Service Charitable and Non-<br />

Charitable Trust Accounts and Audit)<br />

Order 2005; Draft Regulatory Reform<br />

(Execution of Deeds and Documents)<br />

Order 2005; Draft Regulatory Reform<br />

(Fire Safety) Order 2005), 9 Mar, 279.<br />

15th (Serious Organised Crime and Police<br />

Bill; Mental Capacity Bill), 21 Mar, 341.<br />

16th (Draft Regulatory Reform (Fire<br />

Safety) Order 2005), 21 Mar, 341.<br />

17th (Railways Bill; Serious Organised<br />

Crime and Police Bill), 6 Apr, 384.<br />

18th (Special Report on Sessions 2003-04<br />

and 2004-05: The Work of the<br />

Committee), 6 Apr, 384.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

423<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Departmental Performance:<br />

Papers (by command): 2 Dec, 31; 6 Dec, 36;<br />

7 Dec, 41; 9 Dec, 55; 13 Dec, 60; 14 Dec, 64;<br />

20 Dec, 78.<br />

Deputy Chairmen of Committees:<br />

L. Grenfell appointed, nemine dissentiente,<br />

Principal Deputy Chairman of Committees,<br />

23 Nov, 3.<br />

Panel of Deputy Chairmen appointed, 1<br />

Dec, 28.<br />

Deregulation:<br />

See Regulatory Reform.<br />

See also Delegated Powers and Regulatory<br />

Reform Committee.<br />

Development of Tourism Act 1969:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Jan, 105; 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Direction given on 1st April by the<br />

Secretary of State for Northern<br />

Ireland under the Northern<br />

Ireland Act 1998, Regarding<br />

Reduction of Financial<br />

Assistance:<br />

Draft laid, 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Disability:<br />

Papers (by command): 16 Dec, 74.<br />

Disability Discrimination Act 1995:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56; 1 Feb, 146; 2<br />

Mar, 238; 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 25 Nov, 12; after<br />

debate, 2a, committed to GC, 6 Dec, 38;<br />

DPRRC report, 15 Dec, 70; GC, 13 Jan,<br />

106; 17 Jan, 112; DPRRC report, 19 Jan,<br />

119; GC, 20 Jan, 123; report (2 divs), 3 Feb,<br />

155; report (div), 8 Feb, 171; Queen’s<br />

consent; 3a (div), passed, sent HC, 28 Feb,<br />

225; from HC with amendments, 6 Apr,<br />

384; HC amendments agreed to, 7 Apr,<br />

396; RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Dissolution:<br />

11 Apr, 400.<br />

District Policing Partnerships<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196; after debate approved,<br />

2 Mar, 240.<br />

Divisions:<br />

The first figure in each bracket is the number of<br />

Lords voting Content, the second figure,<br />

those voting Not-Content. *Discrepancy<br />

between tellers’ figures and recorded names<br />

Statutory Instruments<br />

Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of<br />

OVences) Order 2004<br />

Amendment to motion to approve: (42-90),<br />

14 Dec, 66.<br />

Higher Education (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2005<br />

Amendment to motion to approve: (168-<br />

150), 22 Mar, 351.<br />

Motions<br />

Administration and Works Committee<br />

Amendment to motion to approve: (41-116),<br />

(88-53), 21 Dec, 86-8.<br />

Procedure Committee<br />

Amendment to motion to approve: (98-135),<br />

24 Mar, 365.<br />

Public Bills<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Bill<br />

Report: (147-136), (134-126), 22 Mar, 353.<br />

3a: (43-90), 5 Apr, 380.<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [HL]<br />

Report: (229-206); (215-175); (128-178), 7<br />

Dec, 43-9.<br />

3a: (133-199); (126-190), 20 Dec, 79-83.<br />

LCCA: (215-199), (209-195), 15 Mar, 323;<br />

(191-203), (189-201), 21 Mar, 342-6.<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [HL]<br />

Report: (80-103); (36-100), 3 Feb, 155; (138-<br />

131), 8 Feb, 171.<br />

3a: (118-122), 28 Feb, 228.<br />

Drugs Bill<br />

CWH: (105-11), 6 Apr, 391.<br />

Education Bill [HL]<br />

CWH: (83-126), 13 Jan, 106; (30-70), 24<br />

Jan, 127.<br />

Report: (149-133), (144-125), (127-120), 21<br />

Feb, 198-202; (94-105), (54-141), 24 Feb,<br />

219-21.<br />

3a: (138-136), (148-126), (119-125), 2 Mar,<br />

241-5.


424 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Electoral Registration (Northern Ireland)<br />

Bill [HL]<br />

CWH: (61-140), 22 Feb, 207.<br />

Gambling Bill<br />

CWH: (123-105), 10 Mar, 297-99.<br />

Inquiries Bill [HL]<br />

Report: (61-163), 8 Feb, 173.<br />

3a: (137-130), (149-131), 28 Feb, 225-28.<br />

LCCA: (89-142), (87-135), 7 Apr, 398.<br />

International Organisations Bill [HL]<br />

Report: (103-130), 7 Feb, 165.<br />

Mental Capacity Bill<br />

3a: (18-118), 24 Mar, 367.<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill<br />

CWH: (249-119), 7 Mar, 257.<br />

Report: (256-129), (240-139), (297-110),<br />

(232-130), (76-123), (173-110)*, 8 Mar, 264-<br />

75.<br />

LCCA: (214-126), (225-127), (250-101), (200-<br />

129), 10 Mar, 290-97; (182-112), (178-111),<br />

(192-107), (153-98), (155-97), (164-96), (176-<br />

128), (194-123), (56-117), 10 Mar, 299-313.<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill<br />

[HL]<br />

Report: (91-86), 10 Feb, 183.<br />

Railways Bill<br />

Report: (120-136), 4 Apr, 374.<br />

3a: (149-127), (158-135), 6 Apr, 385.<br />

Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill<br />

Report: (60-141), (63-125), 6 Apr, 389.<br />

Equality of votes: None.<br />

No quorum: None.<br />

InsuYcient tellers: 28 Feb, 225; 7 Mar, 256.<br />

Voting in both lobbies: 21 Dec, 87.<br />

Draft Bills:<br />

See Pre-Legislative Scrutiny.<br />

Drainage (Amendment) (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 26 Jan, 134.<br />

Drugs Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 23 Feb, 213; after<br />

debate 2a, 4 Apr, 373; committed to CWH,<br />

CWH (div), report, 3a, passed, returned<br />

HC with amendments, 6 Apr, 384; from<br />

HC agreed to, 7 Apr, 396; RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Ecclesiastical Committee:<br />

Reports<br />

219th (Stipends (Cessation of Special<br />

Payments) Measure), 24 Feb, 217.<br />

220th (Care of Cathedrals (Amendment)<br />

Measure), 24 Feb, 217.<br />

221st (Church of England (Miscellaneous<br />

Provisions) Measure), 24 Feb, 218.<br />

Ecclesiastical Fees Measure 1986:<br />

Papers (per Measure): 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Economic Affairs Committee:<br />

Appointed, 29 Nov, 16.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present<br />

Successes and Future Problems, the<br />

Government’s response), 3 Feb, 154.<br />

Reports from Session 2003-04<br />

3rd (Monetary and Fiscal Policy: Present<br />

Successes and Future Problems), debated<br />

in GC, 21 Feb, 198, 202.<br />

Education:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Feb, 211; 22 Mar,<br />

349.<br />

Education Act 1994:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Apr, 383.<br />

Education Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Jan, 126; 28 Feb, 224; 15<br />

Mar, 321; 4 Apr, 372; 6 Apr, 383.<br />

Education Act 1997:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Dec, 85.<br />

Education Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Dec, 74; 10 Jan, 93; 4<br />

Apr, 373; 5 Apr, 379.<br />

Education (Additional Support for<br />

Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004<br />

(Consequential Modifications)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 25 Jan, 130; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170.<br />

Education Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 30 Nov, 23; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to CWH, 13 Dec, 61;<br />

DPRRC report; marshalling order, 15<br />

Dec, 70; CWH, 11 Jan, 97, 98; CWH (div),<br />

13 Jan, 105; CWH, 18 Jan, 116; CWH<br />

(div), 24 Jan, 126; marshalling order, 10<br />

Feb, 183; report (3 divs), 21 Feb, 197, 198;<br />

report (2 divs), 24 Feb, 218; 3a (3 divs),<br />

passed, sent HC, 2 Mar, 240; from HC<br />

agreed to, RA, 7 Apr, 397.


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Education: Tomlinson Report:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

16 Mar, 332.<br />

Electoral Law:<br />

Papers (by command): 9 Dec, 55.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern<br />

Ireland) 1962 (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 20 Jan, 122; JCSI report, 1 Feb,<br />

146; after debate approved, amendment<br />

withdrawn, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern<br />

Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 2)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Feb, 217; referred to GC, 7<br />

Mar, 256; JCSI report, 8 Mar, 263; GC, 15<br />

Mar, 323, 327; approved, 17 Mar, 336.<br />

Electoral Law Act (Northern<br />

Ireland) 1962 (Amendment No. 3)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 7 Mar, 256; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263; referred to GC, 14 Mar, 317; GC, 15<br />

Mar, 323, 327; approved, 17 Mar, 336.<br />

Electoral Registration (Northern<br />

Ireland) Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 9 Feb, 178; DPRRC<br />

report, 21 Feb, 197; after debate 2a,<br />

amendment withdrawn, committed to<br />

CWH, 21 Feb, 197; CWH (div); report; 3a;<br />

passed; sent HC, 22 Feb, 207; from HC<br />

agreed to; RA, 24 Feb, 218.<br />

Electricity Act 1989:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56; 8 Mar, 262.<br />

Electricity and Gas (Energy<br />

Efficiency Obligations) Order<br />

2004:<br />

After debate approved, 21 Dec, 86.<br />

Electricity Supply:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

19 Jan, 119.<br />

Electronic Communications Act<br />

2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Dec, 36; 9 Dec, 56.<br />

Employment (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2003:<br />

Papers (per Order): 17 Jan, 112.<br />

Employment Rights Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Employment Tribunals Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 3 Mar, 251.<br />

Employment Zones (Allocation to<br />

Contractors) Pilot Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 22 Feb, 205; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; after debate approved, 5 Apr, 380.<br />

Energy Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Dec, 41; 8 Mar, 263.<br />

Energy (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2003:<br />

Papers (per Order): 10 Jan, 94.<br />

Enterprise Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Dec, 41; 20 Dec, 78; 18<br />

Jan, 115; 24 Mar, 364; 4 Apr, 371.<br />

Environment:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Nov, 3; 7 Dec, 41;<br />

8 Dec, 51; 19 Jan, 119; 7 Mar, 255; 9<br />

Mar, 278.<br />

Environment Act 1995:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Environmental Information<br />

Regulations 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 21 Dec, 86.<br />

Papers (per Regulation): 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Environmental Protection Act<br />

1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Mar, 239.<br />

Equality Bill:<br />

JCHR Report, 23 Mar, 360.<br />

EU Development Aid (EUC Report):<br />

Motion to take note, after debate agreed to,<br />

20 Jan, 123.<br />

EU Security Strategy (EUC<br />

Report):<br />

Motion to take note, agreed to, 20 Jan, 123.<br />

Eurofighter Programme:<br />

Unstarred question, 13 Jan, 105.


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2004–05<br />

European Communities Act 1972:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Nov, 8; 25 Nov, 12; 6<br />

Dec, 37; 8 Dec, 52; 9 Dec, 56; 13 Dec, 60;<br />

14 Dec, 65; 21 Dec, 85; 10 Jan, 93, 94; 14<br />

Jan, 108; 17 Jan, 112; 18 Jan, 115; 27 Jan,<br />

138; 31 Jan, 142; 1 Feb, 146; 3 Feb, 154; 4<br />

Feb, 159; 7 Feb, 162; 9 Feb, 178; 21 Feb,<br />

195; 23 Feb, 212; 24 Feb, 217; 28 Feb, 224;<br />

1 Mar, 233; 3 Mar, 251; 7 Mar, 256; 10<br />

Mar, 285; 14 Mar, 316; 16 Mar, 331; 17<br />

Mar, 336; 23 Mar, 359; 24 Mar, 363; 4 Apr,<br />

372; 5 Apr, 379; 6 Apr, 383; 7 Apr, 395.<br />

European Communities (Amendment)<br />

Act 1993 (“Maastricht<br />

Motions”):<br />

Motion to take note of Pre-Budget Report<br />

2004, after debate, agreed to, 16 Dec, 75.<br />

European Communities (Definition<br />

of Treaties) (European Police<br />

Office) Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Nov, 7; after debate approved,<br />

9 Dec, 57.<br />

European Communities (Immunities<br />

and Privileges of the European<br />

Police Office) (Amendment)<br />

Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Nov, 7; approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

European Police College<br />

(Immunities and Privileges)<br />

Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Nov, 7; approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

European Union:<br />

Papers (by command): 8 Dec, 51; 3 Feb, 154;<br />

7 Feb, 162; 23 Feb, 211.<br />

European Union Committee:<br />

Appointed, 29 Nov, 16; Lord added, 9 Dec,<br />

56.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Procedural Rights in Criminal<br />

Proceedings), 18 Jan, 115.<br />

2nd (Current Developments in European<br />

Foreign Policy), 7 Feb, 163.<br />

3rd (Developments in the EU: Evidence from<br />

the Ambassador of Luxembourg and the<br />

European <strong>Parliament</strong>’s Constitutional<br />

AVairs Committee), 22 Feb, 206.<br />

4th (Liberalising Rail Freight Movement in<br />

the EU), 22 Feb, 206.<br />

5th (After Madrid: the EU’s response to<br />

terrorism), 22 Feb, 206.<br />

6th (Future Financing of the EU), 28 Feb,<br />

224.<br />

7th (Evidence from the Financial Secretary<br />

on the proposed reforms of the Stability and<br />

Growth Pact), 8 Mar, 263.<br />

8th (Proposal to ban trade in products used<br />

for capital punishment or torture), 8 Mar,<br />

263.<br />

9th (European Defence Agency), 8 Mar, 263.<br />

10th (The Hague Programme: A Five Year<br />

Agenda for EU Justice and Home AVairs), 15<br />

Mar, 321.<br />

11th (Remaining Government Responses for<br />

Session 2003-04), 22 Mar, 350.<br />

12th (European Contract Law - the way<br />

forward?), 22 Mar, 350.<br />

13th (Preventing Proliferation of Weapons of<br />

Mass Destruction: the EU Contribution), 22<br />

Mar, 350.<br />

14th (Strengthening National <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

Scrutiny of the EU—the Constitution’s<br />

Subsidiarity Early Warning Mechanism), 5<br />

Apr, 379.<br />

15th (Clause 2 of the European Union Bill—<br />

the Constitution’s passerelle provisions), 5<br />

Apr, 379.<br />

16th (Finland’s National <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

Scrutiny of the EU), 5 Apr, 379.<br />

17th (Proposed European Union Integrated<br />

Action Programme for Life-long Learning),<br />

5 Apr, 379.<br />

Reports from Session 2003-04<br />

12th (EU Development Aid in Transition),<br />

debated, 20 Jan, 123.<br />

16th (World Trade Organisation: role of the<br />

EU post-Cancún), debated, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

27th (Sexual Equality), debated, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

30th (EU and Climate Change), debated, 23<br />

Feb, 213.<br />

31st (EU Security Strategy), debated, 20<br />

Jan, 123.<br />

European Union: UK Presidency:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

9 Mar, 279.<br />

Expenses:<br />

Motion for resolution, agreed to, 24 Mar,<br />

364.<br />

Export Control Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Feb, 177; 7 Mar, 255.<br />

Extradition Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Jan, 108.<br />

Extradition Act 2003 (Amendment<br />

to Designations) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 13 Jan, 105; JCSI report, 25 Jan,<br />

131; approved, 4 Feb, 159.


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Extradition Act 2003 (Part 3<br />

Designation) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 23 Feb, 212; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263; referred to GC, 15 Mar, 322; GC, 22<br />

Mar, 350, 356; approved, 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Extradition to the <strong>United</strong> States:<br />

Unstarred question, 6 Dec, 38.<br />

Fair Trading Act 1973:<br />

Papers (per Act): 12 Jan, 101; 23 Feb, 212.<br />

Family Law (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 22 Mar, 349.<br />

Finance:<br />

Papers (by command): 15 Dec, 69; 26 Jan,<br />

134; 2 Feb, 150; 9 Feb, 177; 6 Apr, 383.<br />

Finance Act 1973:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Finance (No. 2) Bill (Finance Act<br />

2005):<br />

1a, 6 Apr, 384; 2a, Committee negatived, 3a,<br />

passed, RA, 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Financial Provisions (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 25 Nov, 12; referred to GC, 6 Dec,<br />

38; GC, 13 Dec, 61; approved, 14 Dec, 65.<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act<br />

2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 20 Dec, 78; 10 Jan, 93; 18<br />

Jan, 115; 10 Feb, 182; 10 Mar, 285; 14<br />

Mar, 317.<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act<br />

2000 (Carrying on Regulated<br />

Activities by Way of Business)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 10 Feb, 182; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; approved, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Financial Services and Markets Act<br />

2000 (Regulated Activities)<br />

(Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 16 Dec, 75.<br />

Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56; 14 Dec, 65.<br />

Fire and Rescue Services (National<br />

Framework) (England) Order<br />

2004:<br />

Motion to annul, after debate withdrawn, 24<br />

Jan, 126.<br />

Firearms (Amendment) (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order<br />

2004:<br />

Papers (per Order): 10 Jan, 94.<br />

Fireworks Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Fisheries Act 1981:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Dec, 52; 11 Jan, 97; 28<br />

Feb, 224.<br />

Food Safety Act 1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Nov, 12; 1 Dec, 27; 13<br />

Dec, 60; 21 Dec, 85; 11 Jan, 97; 1 Mar, 233;<br />

10 Mar, 284; 21 Mar, 341; 24 Mar, 364; 7<br />

Apr, 395.<br />

Food Standards Act 1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Feb, 169.<br />

Football:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

15 Dec, 71.<br />

Foreign Affairs:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Nov, 3; 23 Feb,<br />

211; 5 Apr, 378.<br />

Foreign and Commonwealth Office:<br />

Papers (by command): 17 Jan, 111.<br />

Freedom of Information Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Nov, 12; 29 Nov, 15.<br />

Freedom of Information (Removal<br />

and Relaxation of Statutory<br />

Prohibitions on Disclosure of<br />

Information) Order 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

Freedom of Information (Time for<br />

Compliance with Request)<br />

Regulations 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 9 Dec, 57.


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2004–05<br />

Further and Higher Education Act<br />

1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 1 Feb, 146; 8 Mar, 262; 7<br />

Apr, 395.<br />

Gambling Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 25 Jan, 131; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to CWH, 22 Feb,<br />

207; DPRRC reports, 23 Feb, 212; 28 Feb,<br />

224; marshalling order, 1 Mar, 234; CWH<br />

(div), 10 Mar, 287; CWH, report, Queen’s<br />

and Prince of Wales’ consent, 3a, passed,<br />

returned HC with amendments, 6 Apr,<br />

385; from HC with amendments and reasons,<br />

agreed to, RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Gaming Act 1968:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Mar, 279.<br />

Gaming (Bingo) Act 1985:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Mar, 279.<br />

Gangmasters (Licensing Authority)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 26 Jan, 134; JCSI report, 1 Feb,<br />

146; Merits report, 8 Feb, 170; after debate<br />

approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Gas Act 1986:<br />

Papers (per Act): 11 Jan, 97; 21 Feb, 195.<br />

Gender Recognition Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286; 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Gender Recognition (Approved<br />

Countries and Territories)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 20 Jan, 122; JCSI report, 1 Feb,<br />

146; after debate approved, 17 Mar, 336.<br />

General and Specialist Medical<br />

Practice (Education, Training<br />

and Qualifications) Order 2003:<br />

Papers (per Order): 10 Jan, 93.<br />

Government Finance Act 1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 61.<br />

Government of Wales Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 30 Nov, 21.<br />

Government Resources and<br />

Accounts Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 22 Feb, 206; 7 Mar, 256.<br />

Government Resources and<br />

Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of<br />

Public Bodies) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; referred to GC, 10 Feb, 183; GC, 21<br />

Feb, 198, 203; approved, 22 Feb, 207.<br />

Grand Committee:<br />

Bills: see<br />

Charities Bill [HL].<br />

Child Benefit Bill (order of commitment<br />

discharged).<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs<br />

Bill.<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [HL].<br />

Inquiries Bill [HL].<br />

International Organisations Bill [HL].<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill<br />

[HL].<br />

Railways Bill.<br />

School Transport Bill.<br />

Delegated legislation: see 13 Dec, 61; 21 Feb,<br />

202; 1 Mar, 234; 15 Mar, 322; 22 Mar, 356;<br />

23 Mar, 360.<br />

Committee report: see 21 Feb, 202.<br />

Unstarred Questions: see 1 Mar, 235; 22 Mar,<br />

356; 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Unstarred Questions in Grand Committee<br />

time limited: 31 Jan, 143.<br />

Greater London Authority Act<br />

1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 19 Jan, 119; 8 Feb, 169; 17<br />

Mar, 335.<br />

Guaranteed Minimum Pensions<br />

Increase Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 1 Feb, 146; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; approved, 7 Mar, 257.<br />

Gulf War Illnesses:<br />

Unstarred question, 21 Dec, 86.<br />

HBOS Group Reorganisation Bill:<br />

Petition for Bill, 29 Nov, 16; Examiner’s certificate,<br />

20 Dec, 78; report, 2 Feb, 151.<br />

Health:<br />

Papers (by command): 25 Nov, 12; 9 Dec, 55;<br />

16 Dec, 74; 11 Jan, 97; 21 Mar, 340.<br />

Health and Safety at Work etc.<br />

Act 1974:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 21 Feb, 195; 16<br />

Mar, 331; 5 Apr, 378; 7 Apr, 395.


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Health and Social Care (Community<br />

Health and Standards) Act<br />

2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Mar, 256; 10 Mar, 284; 23<br />

Mar, 360.<br />

Health and Social Care (Community<br />

Health and Standards) Act 2003<br />

(Commission for Healthcare<br />

Audit and Inspection and<br />

Commission for Social Care<br />

Inspection) (Transitional and<br />

Consequential Provisions) Order<br />

2004:<br />

Papers (per order): 23 Mar, 360.<br />

Health Professions Order 2001:<br />

Papers (per Order): 15 Dec, 70.<br />

Health Protection Agency Act<br />

2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Mar, 255; 10 Mar, 284.<br />

Health Service Commissioners Act<br />

1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Dec, 74; 21 Feb, 196; 9<br />

Mar, 279.<br />

Hereditary Peers:<br />

Register of hereditary peers who wish to<br />

stand in any by-election for membership of<br />

the House, 23 Nov, 3.<br />

See also Membership of the House at back<br />

of volume.<br />

Higher Education (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 8 Feb, 169; referred to GC, 7 Mar,<br />

256; order of reference discharged, 10 Mar,<br />

287; amendment moved and agreed to<br />

(div), after debate order approved, 22<br />

Mar, 350.<br />

Highways Act 1980:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Mar, 341; 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Historic Buildings:<br />

Papers (by command): 30 Nov, 21.<br />

HIV/Aids:<br />

Unstarred question, 4 Feb, 159.<br />

H M Customs and Excise: Heavy<br />

Goods Vehicles:<br />

Unstarred question in GC, 1 Mar, 235.<br />

H M Inspector of Prisons:<br />

Unstarred question, 19 Jan, 119.<br />

Hong Kong:<br />

Papers (by command): 3 Mar, 251.<br />

Honours System:<br />

Papers (by command): 22 Feb, 205.<br />

Hospital-Acquired Infections:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

1 Dec, 28.<br />

House Committee:<br />

Appointed, 1 Dec, 28<br />

Reports: none.<br />

Reports from Session 2003-04<br />

2nd (Security, Freedom of Information),<br />

agreed to, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

House of Lords Journals:<br />

236th volume for 2002-03, with an index, laid<br />

on table, 3 Feb, 154.<br />

House of Lords Reform:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

26 Jan, 135.<br />

Household Waste Recycling Act<br />

2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 27 Jan, 138.<br />

Housing:<br />

Papers (by command): 24 Nov, 7; 24 Jan, 126;<br />

27 Jan, 138; 31 Jan, 142; 14 Mar, 316; 4<br />

Apr, 371.<br />

Housing Act 1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Mar, 256; 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Housing Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 195.<br />

Human Rights:<br />

Papers (by command): 2 Mar, 238; 4 Apr,<br />

371.<br />

Human Rights Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Human Rights, Joint Committee on:<br />

Appointed, 30 Nov, 22<br />

Reports:<br />

1st (Protocol No. 14 to the European<br />

Convention on Human Rights), 1 Dec, 27.


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2004–05<br />

2nd (Draft Criminal Justice Act 2003<br />

(Categories of OVences) Order 2004), 1 Dec,<br />

27.<br />

3rd (Deaths in Custody), 8 Dec, 52.<br />

4th (Scrutiny of Bills: Progress Report), 12<br />

Jan, 101.<br />

5th (Identity Cards Bill), 27 Jan, 138.<br />

6th (Scrutiny: Second Progress Report), 3<br />

Feb, 154.<br />

7th (Scrutiny: Third Progress Report), 9<br />

Feb, 178.<br />

8th (Scrutiny: Fourth Progress Report), 23<br />

Feb, 213.<br />

9th (Prevention of Terrorism Bill:<br />

Preliminary report), 23 Feb, 213.<br />

10th (Prevention of Terrorism Bill), 2 Mar,<br />

239.<br />

11th (Government Response to the Third<br />

Report from the Joint Committee, Deaths in<br />

Custody), 2 Mar, 239.<br />

12th (Scrutiny: Fifth Progress Report), 9<br />

Mar, 279.<br />

13th (Scrutiny: Sixth Progress Report), 17<br />

Mar, 336.<br />

14th (Convention on the Elimination of<br />

Racial Discrimination), 17 Mar, 336.<br />

15th (Scrutiny of Bills: Progress Report), 23<br />

Mar, 360.<br />

16th (Equality Bill), 23 Mar, 360.<br />

17th (Review of International Human Rights<br />

Instruments), 23 Mar, 360.<br />

18th (Scrutiny: Final Progress Report), 6<br />

Apr, 384.<br />

19th (The Work of the Committee in the<br />

2001-2005 <strong>Parliament</strong>), 6 Apr, 384.<br />

Minutes of proceedings for Session 2003-04,<br />

12 Jan, 101.<br />

Hybrid Bills:<br />

See Public Bills.<br />

Hybrid Instruments:<br />

See AYrmative Instruments.<br />

Hybrid Instruments Committee:<br />

Appointed, 6 Dec, 37.<br />

Identity Cards Bill:<br />

JCHR report, 27 Jan, 138; 1a, explanatory<br />

notes, 21 Feb, 197; Constitution Committee<br />

report, 9 Mar, 279; after debate 2a,<br />

committed to CWH, 21 Mar, 342.<br />

Immigration:<br />

Papers (by command): 7 Feb, 162.<br />

Immigration Act 1971:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Dec, 36; 15 Dec, 70; 20<br />

Dec, 78; 11 Jan, 97; 7 Feb, 162; 22 Feb, 206;<br />

17 Mar, 336; 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Immigration and Asylum:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

23 Feb, 213.<br />

Immigration and Asylum Act 1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 29 Nov, 15; 7 Feb, 162; 23<br />

Feb, 212; 8 Mar, 262; 10 Mar, 286; 14 Mar,<br />

317; 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Immigration and Asylum (Provision<br />

of Accommodation to Failed<br />

Asylum-Seekers) Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 7 Feb, 162; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; referred to GC, 15 Mar, 322; GC, 22<br />

Mar, 350, 356; approved, 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Immigration (Leave to Enter and<br />

Remain) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; referred to GC, 15 Mar, 322; GC, 22<br />

Mar, 350, 356; approved, 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Income Tax (Trading and Other<br />

Income) Bill: (Money):<br />

DPRRC report, 19 Jan, 119; JC report, 1<br />

Feb, 146; 1a, 8 Mar, 264; 2a, Committee<br />

negatived, 3a, passed, 23 Mar, 360; RA, 24<br />

Mar, 365.<br />

Industrial Training Levy<br />

(Construction Board) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 16 Dec, 74; withdrawn, 10 Jan, 92;<br />

second draft laid, 10 Jan, 94; JCSI report,<br />

18 Jan, 115; referred to GC, 24 Feb, 218;<br />

GC, 1 Mar, 234; approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Industrial Training Levy<br />

(Engineering Construction<br />

Board) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 16 Dec, 74; withdrawn, 20 Dec,<br />

77; second draft laid, 21 Dec, 85; withdrawn,<br />

10 Jan, 92; third draft laid, 10 Jan,<br />

94; JCSI report, 18 Jan, 155; withdrawn, 22<br />

Feb, 205.<br />

Information and Consultation of<br />

Employees Regulations 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Nov, 7; withdrawn, second<br />

draft laid, 8 Dec, 51; JCSI report, 14 Dec,<br />

65; after debate approved, 21 Dec, 86.


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Information Committee:<br />

Appointed, 7 Dec, 42; Lord added, 9 Dec, 56.<br />

Inquiries Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 25 Nov, 12; DPRRC<br />

report, 8 Dec, 52; after debate 2a, committed<br />

to GC, 9 Dec, 57; marshalling order, 13<br />

Dec, 61; Constitution Committee report,<br />

15 Dec, 70; GC, 18 Jan, 116; GC, 19 Jan,<br />

119, 120; marshalling order, 2 Feb, 151;<br />

report, 7 Feb, 165; report (div), 8 Feb, 171;<br />

3a (2 divs), passed, sent HC, 28 Feb, 225;<br />

from HC with amendments, 6 Apr, 385;<br />

LCCA (2 divs), 7 Apr, 396; RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Insolvency Act 1986:<br />

Papers (per Act): 29 Nov, 15; 8 Mar, 263.<br />

Insolvency (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Jan, 126.<br />

Institute of Trade Mark Attorneys<br />

Order 2004:<br />

After debate approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

Intelligence Services:<br />

Papers (by command): 10 Mar, 283; 23 Mar,<br />

359; 7 Apr, 395.<br />

International Criminal Court Act<br />

2001:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56.<br />

International Criminal Court<br />

(Immunities and Privileges)<br />

Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Nov, 7; approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

International Development:<br />

Papers (by command): 20 Dec, 77; 12 Jan,<br />

101.<br />

International Organisations Bill<br />

[HL]:<br />

Iraq:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 24 Nov, 8; DPRRC<br />

report, 8 Dec, 52; after debate 2a, committed<br />

to GC, 16 Dec, 75; GC, 11 Jan, 97, 98;<br />

report (div), 7 Feb, 165; 3a, after debate<br />

passed, sent HC, 28 Feb, 225; from HC<br />

agreed to, RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

16 Mar, 332.<br />

Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act<br />

1978:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286; 23 Mar, 359;<br />

24 Mar, 364.<br />

Justice (Northern Ireland) Act<br />

2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Mar, 331; 5 Apr, 379.<br />

Kent County Council Act 2001:<br />

Law:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Dec, 85.<br />

Papers (by command): 24 Mar, 363.<br />

Law Commission:<br />

Papers (by command): 14 Dec, 64; 23 Feb,<br />

211.<br />

Law Commission Act 1965:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Law Reform (Miscellaneous<br />

Provisions) (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 7 Feb, 162.<br />

Learning and Skills Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 20 Jan, 122.<br />

Leave of Absence:<br />

See Membership of the House at back of<br />

volume.<br />

Legal Aid Act 1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 1981:<br />

Papers (per Order): 13 Dec, 60; 8 Mar, 263.<br />

Legal Services:<br />

Papers (by command): 3 Feb, 154.<br />

Liaison Committee:<br />

Appointed, 2 Dec, 32.<br />

Licensing Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Jan, 105; 20 Jan, 122; 22<br />

Feb, 206.<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Fees)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Motion to annul, after debate withdrawn, 24<br />

Feb, 218.


432 GENERAL INDEX<br />

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2004–05<br />

Liverpool City Council (Prohibition<br />

of Smoking in Places of Work)<br />

Bill [HL]:<br />

Petition for Bill, 29 Nov, 16; Examiners’ certificate,<br />

20 Dec, 78; 1a, 24 Jan, 126; report,<br />

27 Jan, 139; petitions, 7 Feb, 163.<br />

Local Authorities (Contracting<br />

out of Bid Levy Billing,<br />

Collection and Enforcement<br />

Functions) Order 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 15 Dec, 70; JCSI report, 11 Jan,<br />

97; after debate, approved, 27 Jan, 139.<br />

Local Authorities’ Plans and<br />

Strategies (Disapplication)<br />

(England) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Dec, 55; JCSI report, 14 Dec, 65;<br />

withdrawn, 10 Jan, 92; second draft laid,<br />

10 Jan, 93; JCSI report, 11 Jan, 97; after<br />

debate, approved, 27 Jan, 139.<br />

Local Government Act 1972:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Mar, 262; 22 Mar, 349.<br />

Local Government Act 1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Mar, 262; 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Local Government Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 22 Mar, 349; 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Local Government Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Nov, 12; 13 Dec, 60; 21<br />

Mar, 341.<br />

Local Government Finance Act<br />

1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Nov, 12; 8 Dec, 51; 14<br />

Dec, 65; 10 Jan, 93; 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Local Government Finance Act<br />

1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Feb, 158; 8 Mar, 262.<br />

Local Government (Miscellaneous<br />

Provisions) (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2002:<br />

Papers (per Order): 22 Mar, 349.<br />

Local Government (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Mar, 238.<br />

London Local Authorities and<br />

Transport for London Bill:<br />

Petition for Bill, 29 Nov, 16; Examiners’ certificate,<br />

20 Dec, 78.<br />

London Local Authorities Bill<br />

[HL]:<br />

Petition for Bill, 29 Nov, 16; Examiners’ certificate,<br />

20 Dec, 78; 1a, 24 Jan, 126; report,<br />

27 Jan, 139; petitions, 7 Feb, 163.<br />

London Local Authorities<br />

(Prohibition of Smoking in Places<br />

of Work) Bill [HL]:<br />

Petition for Bill, 29 Nov, 16; Examiners’ certificate,<br />

20 Dec, 78; 1a, 24 Jan, 126; report,<br />

27 Jan, 139; petitions, 7 Feb, 164.<br />

Lords:<br />

See Membership of the House at back of<br />

volume.<br />

Lotteries and Amusements Act 1976:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Mar, 279.<br />

Low-Tax Economy:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

12 Jan, 102.<br />

Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 8 Feb, 169; 2<br />

Mar, 239; 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Management of Offenders and<br />

Sentencing Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 12 Jan, 102; DPRRC<br />

report, 2 Feb, 150.<br />

Marine and Aviation (War Risks)<br />

Act 1952:<br />

Papers (per Act): 28 Feb, 224.


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Marine Environment:<br />

Unstarred question, 13 Dec, 61.<br />

Marriages (Ireland) Act 1844:<br />

Papers (per Act) withdrawn, 25 Nov, 12.<br />

Marshall Aid:<br />

Papers (by command): 19 Jan, 119.<br />

Mathematics Teaching:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

19 Jan, 119.<br />

Matrimonial and Family<br />

Proceedings Act 1984:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 9 Feb, 178; 2<br />

Mar, 239; 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Mechanically-Propelled Vehicles:<br />

Unstarred question, 10 Jan, 94.<br />

Media:<br />

Papers (by command): 2 Mar, 238.<br />

Medical Act 1983:<br />

Papers (per Act): 1 Mar, 233; 24 Mar, 363.<br />

Medicines Act 1968:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60; 17 Mar, 335.<br />

Medicines Act 1971:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Nov, 7.<br />

Members of the House:<br />

List prepared by the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong>s<br />

printed, 23 Nov, 2<br />

See also Membership of the House at back<br />

of volume.<br />

Mental Capacity Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 15 Dec, 70; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to CWH, 10 Jan, 94;<br />

marshalling order, 12 Jan, 102; DPRRC<br />

reports, 19 Jan, 119; 21 Feb, 197; CWH, 25<br />

Jan, 131; CWH, 27 Jan, 139; CWH, 1 Feb,<br />

147; CWH, 8 Feb, 171; marshalling order,<br />

22 Feb, 207; DPRRC report, 9 Mar, 279;<br />

marshalling order, 10 Mar, 287; report, 15<br />

Mar, 323; report, 17 Mar, 336; DPRRC<br />

report, 21 Mar, 341; 3a (div), passed, returned<br />

HC with amendments, 24 Mar, 365;<br />

from HC agreed to, 5 Apr, 380; RA, 7<br />

Apr, 397.<br />

Mental Health Act 1983:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Mental Health Bill, Draft:<br />

Joint Committee appointed, 29 Nov, 17; message<br />

of concurrence from HC, 30 Nov, 23;<br />

report, 9 Mar, 279.<br />

Merchant Shipping Act 1995:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 285; 24 Mar, 363.<br />

Merits of Statutory Instruments<br />

Committee:<br />

Appointed, 29 Nov, 17.<br />

Reports<br />

1st, 7 Dec, 42.<br />

2nd, 14 Dec, 65.<br />

3rd, 21 Dec, 85.<br />

4th, 11 Jan, 97.<br />

5th, 18 Jan, 115.<br />

6th, 18 Jan, 115.<br />

7th, 25 Jan, 130.<br />

8th, 1 Feb, 146.<br />

9th, 8 Feb, 170.<br />

10th, 22 Feb, 206.<br />

11th, 1 Mar, 233.<br />

12th, 8 Mar, 263.<br />

13th, 8 Mar, 263.<br />

14th, 15 Mar, 321.<br />

15th, 22 Mar, 349.<br />

16th, 5 Apr, 379.<br />

17th, 5 Apr, 379.<br />

Midland Metro (Wednesbury to<br />

Brierley Hill and Miscellaneous<br />

Amendments) Order 2005:<br />

Special procedure order laid, 8 Feb, 170;<br />

report, 1 Mar, 233.<br />

Ministers of the Crown Act 1975:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Misuse of Drugs Act 1971:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 195.<br />

Monetary and Fiscal Policy<br />

(Economic Affairs Committee<br />

Report):<br />

Debate in GC, 21 Feb, 198, 202.<br />

Motions:<br />

I. To take note.<br />

II. For papers.<br />

III. For annulment.<br />

IV. Other.<br />

See also Amendments to Motions.


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2004–05<br />

I. To take note:<br />

Motions marked * were debated in the Chamber<br />

on a day other than the general debate day<br />

or Friday. Motions marked ! were taken in<br />

Grand Committee<br />

See<br />

Climate Change (EUC Report).<br />

*Defence.<br />

*EU Development Aid (EUC Report).<br />

*EU Security Strategy (EUC Report).<br />

!Monetary and Fiscal Policy (Economic<br />

Affairs Committee Report) (3hr).<br />

*Northern Ireland.<br />

*Science and Treaties (S&T Report) (2hr).<br />

*Sexual Equality (EUC Report).<br />

*Regulatory State (Constitution<br />

Committee Report).<br />

*World Trade Organization (EUC<br />

Report).<br />

II. For papers:<br />

Motions marked * were debated on a day other<br />

than the general debate day or Friday<br />

See<br />

Children in Care (Ballot).<br />

Crime Prevention (4hr).<br />

Education: Tomlinson Report (2° hr).<br />

Electricity Supply (Ballot).<br />

European Union: UK Presidency<br />

(Ballot).<br />

Football (Ballot).<br />

Hospital-Acquired Infections (2° hr).<br />

House of Lords Reform (3° hr).<br />

Immigration and Asylum (3° hr).<br />

Iraq (2° hr).<br />

Low-Tax Economy (5hr).<br />

Mathematics Teaching (Ballot).<br />

Official Statistics (1° hr).<br />

Parents and Children (2hr).<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>: Public Engagement<br />

(Ballot).<br />

Planning Policies (2° hr).<br />

Poverty in Developing Countries (3hr).<br />

Radioactive Waste Management (S&T<br />

Report) (2hr).<br />

Regional Agencies and Bodies (2° hr).<br />

Schools: Pupil Behaviour (2° hr).<br />

Turkey and the European Union<br />

(Ballot).<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations Reform and Conflict in<br />

Africa (4hr).<br />

Zimbabwe (Ballot).<br />

III. For annulment:<br />

See<br />

Fire and Rescue Services (National<br />

Framework) (England) Order 2004.<br />

Licensing Act 2003 (Fees) Regulations<br />

2005.<br />

IV. Other:<br />

See<br />

Business of the House.<br />

Common Agricultural Policy Single<br />

Payment Scheme (Set-Aside) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004 (motion to revoke).<br />

European Communities (Amendment) Act<br />

1993 (“Maastricht Motions”).<br />

Expenses (motion for resolution).<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill (motion to<br />

resume House).<br />

Queen’s Speech.<br />

South-West Territorial Waters<br />

(Prohibition of Pair Trawling) Order<br />

2004 (motion to revoke).<br />

Motor Vehicles (Wearing of Seat<br />

Belts) (Amendment) Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

After debate approved, 15 Dec, 71.<br />

Museums and Galleries Act 1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 29 Nov, 15; 28 Feb, 224.<br />

National Assistance Act 1948:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Mar, 341.<br />

National Health Service Act 1977:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 61; 10 Jan, 93, 94;<br />

11 Jan, 97; 12 Jan, 101; 8 Mar, 262; 9 Mar,<br />

278; 10 Mar, 283-4; 21 Mar, 341; 24 Mar,<br />

363; 4 Apr, 372; 7 Apr, 395.<br />

National Heritage Act 1983:<br />

Papers (per Act): 20 Dec, 78.<br />

National Loans Act 1968:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Mar, 360.<br />

National Lottery Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 30 Nov, 21.<br />

National Lottery etc. Act 1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Nov, 8; 25 Nov, 12; 6<br />

Dec, 37; 9 Dec, 56; 13 Dec, 61; 21 Dec, 85;<br />

17 Jan, 112; 23 Feb, 212; 8 Mar, 263; 10<br />

Mar, 286.


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National Statistics:<br />

Papers (by command): 7 Apr, 395.<br />

Nationality, Immigration and<br />

Asylum Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Feb, 169; 10 Mar, 285,<br />

286; 14 Mar, 316; 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Nato:<br />

Papers (by command): 9 Dec, 55.<br />

Natural Environment and Rural<br />

Communities Bill, Draft:<br />

Presented, 10 Feb, 182.<br />

Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions<br />

Act 1865:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286; 22 Mar, 349; 7<br />

Apr, 396.<br />

Negative Instruments:<br />

Laying is indexed under enabling Act. See<br />

Motions for annulment and Motions,<br />

Other.<br />

New Opportunities Fund<br />

(Specification of Initiative)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; referred to GC, 21 Mar, 342; GC, 23<br />

Mar, 360, 361; approved, 24 Mar, 365.<br />

Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable<br />

Amounts) (England)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 23 Feb, 212; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; approved, 9 Mar, 280.<br />

Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable<br />

Amounts) (England)<br />

Regulations 2004:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Dec, 32; Merits report, JCSI<br />

report, 7 Dec, 42; after debate approved, 9<br />

Dec, 57.<br />

Norfolk and Suffolk Broads Act<br />

1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 373.<br />

North/South Co-Operation<br />

(Implementation Bodies)<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 1999:<br />

Papers (per Order): 16 Dec, 74.<br />

Northern Ireland:<br />

Motion to take note, after debate agreed to,<br />

31 Jan, 143.<br />

Northern Ireland Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Northern Ireland Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 30 Nov, 21; 1 Dec, 27; 2<br />

Dec, 32; 13 Dec, 61; 15 Dec, 70; 16 Dec, 74;<br />

13 Jan, 105; 24 Jan, 126; 3 Feb, 154; 7 Feb,<br />

162; 21 Feb, 196; 2 Mar, 239; 9 Mar, 279;<br />

10 Mar, 286; 15 Mar, 321; 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Northern Ireland Act 2000<br />

(Modification) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 3 Feb, 154; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; after debate approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Northern Ireland Arms<br />

Decommissioning Act 1997<br />

(Amnesty Period) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 26 Jan, 134; JCSI report, 1 Feb,<br />

146; after debate approved, 9 Feb, 178.<br />

Northern Ireland (Monitoring<br />

Commission etc.) Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Feb, 182.<br />

Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act<br />

1998 (Specified Organisations)<br />

Order 2004:<br />

Notification of coming into force before<br />

being laid, 24 Nov, 8; after debate approved,<br />

11 Jan, 97.<br />

Nuclear Energy:<br />

Papers (by command): 18 Jan, 115; 23 Mar,<br />

359.<br />

Nursing and Midwifery Order 2001:<br />

Papers (per Order): 13 Jan, 105.<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes<br />

(Levies) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Feb, 150; withdrawn, 7 Feb, 162;<br />

second draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report,<br />

22 Feb, 206; referred to GC, 24 Feb, 218;<br />

GC, 1 Mar, 234, 235; approved, 2 Mar,<br />

240.<br />

Occupational Pension Schemes<br />

(Modification of Pension<br />

Protection Provisions)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; referred to GC, 24 Feb, 218; GC, 1<br />

Mar, 234, 235; approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Official Statistics:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

23 Feb, 213.


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2004–05<br />

Offshore Petroleum Activities (Oil<br />

Pollution Prevention and<br />

Control) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 10 Feb, 182; withdrawn, 17 Mar,<br />

335; second draft laid, 17 Mar, 335; JCSI<br />

report, 22 Mar, 350.<br />

Older People:<br />

Papers (by command): 23 Mar, 359.<br />

Open-Ended Investment Companies<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 10 Feb, 182; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263; after debate approved, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Opticians Act 1989 (Amendment)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 24 Feb, 217; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; after debate approved, 8 Mar, 264.<br />

Parents and Children:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

2 Feb, 151.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>:<br />

Opened by the Queen, 23 Nov, 2.<br />

Prorogued, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Dissolved by proclamation, 11 Apr, 400.<br />

Judicial Sittings during Dissolution authorised,<br />

13 Apr, 401.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>: Public Engagement:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

9 Feb, 178.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary and Other Pensions<br />

Act 1972:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 373.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary and other Pensions<br />

Act 1987:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Mar, 359.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Broadcasting Unit<br />

Limited (Parbul):<br />

Lords named, 7 Dec, 42.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner Act<br />

1967:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 196; 23 Mar, 360.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner<br />

(Amendment) Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 24 Nov, 8; DPRRC report, 8 Dec, 52;<br />

after debate 2a, committed to CWH, 4<br />

Feb, 159; order of commitment discharged,<br />

24 Feb, 218; 3a, passed, sent HC, 3<br />

Mar, 251.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Constituencies<br />

(Scotland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 14 Dec, 64; JCSI report, 11 Jan,<br />

97; after debate approved, 1 Feb, 147.<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Office of Science<br />

and Technology (Post):<br />

Lords named, 7 Dec, 42.<br />

Patents Act 1977:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 94; 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Patents Act 2004:<br />

Pay:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Dec, 41.<br />

Papers (by command): 28 Feb, 223.<br />

Pay Review Bodies:<br />

Papers (by command): 22 Feb, 205; 24 Mar,<br />

363.<br />

Peers and Peerages:<br />

See Membership of the House at back of<br />

volume.<br />

Pension Protection Fund (Pension<br />

Compensation Cap) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; referred to GC, 24 Feb, 218; GC, 1<br />

Mar, 234, 235; approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Pension Protection Fund (PPF<br />

Ombudsman) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; referred to GC, 24 Feb, 218; GC, 1<br />

Mar, 234, 235; approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Pension Schemes Act 1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Jan, 130; 10 Mar, 286; 14<br />

Mar, 316; 15 Mar, 321; 16 Mar, 331; 21<br />

Mar, 341; 23 Mar, 359; 4 Apr, 372.<br />

Pensions Act 1995:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Nov, 3; 16 Mar, 331.


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Pensions Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Feb, 150; 21 Feb, 195; 2<br />

Mar, 239; 9 Mar, 278; 10 Mar, 284; 15<br />

Mar, 320; 16 Mar, 330; 21 Mar, 341; 4 Apr,<br />

372; 6 Apr, 383.<br />

Pensions Appeal Tribunals Act 1943:<br />

Papers (per Act): 15 Mar, 321; 16 Mar, 331; 4<br />

Apr, 372.<br />

Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Armed<br />

Forces and Reserve Forces<br />

Compensation Scheme) (Rights of<br />

Appeal) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 13 Jan, 105; JCSI report, 25 Jan,<br />

131; referred to GC, 10 Mar, 287; GC, 22<br />

Mar, 350, 356; approved, 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Pensions (Increase) Act 1971:<br />

Papers (per Act): 15 Mar, 321.<br />

Personal Bills Committee:<br />

Appointed, 6 Dec, 37.<br />

Personal Injuries (Emergency<br />

Provisions) Act 1939:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Mar, 316.<br />

Petroleum:<br />

Papers (by command): 25 Nov, 12.<br />

“Ping Pong”:<br />

For “Ping Pong”, ie consideration of Commons<br />

amendments and/or reasons other<br />

than initial consideration of Commons<br />

amendments to Lords bills, see<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [HL]<br />

Gambling Bill<br />

Inquiries Bill [HL]<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill<br />

Railways Bill<br />

See also Procedure Committee 1st Report, 10<br />

Feb, 185.<br />

Planning and Compulsory Purchase<br />

Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Feb, 182.<br />

Planning (Listed Buildings and<br />

Conservation Areas) Act 1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Planning Policies:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

23 Mar, 360.<br />

Plant Health Act 1967:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Dec, 52; 20 Dec, 78; 21<br />

Feb, 195.<br />

Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers’<br />

Compensation) (Payment of<br />

Claims) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 26 Jan, 134; JCSI report, 1 Feb,<br />

146; after debate approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Police:<br />

Papers (by command): 16 Dec, 74; 22 Feb,<br />

205; 23 Mar, 359.<br />

Police Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60; 20 Dec, 78; 12<br />

Jan, 101; 7 Feb, 162; 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Police Act 1997:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Feb, 217.<br />

Police and Criminal Evidence Act<br />

1984:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 286.<br />

Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Dec, 65; 22 Feb, 206; 1<br />

Mar, 233.<br />

Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 8 Mar, 263.<br />

Police Reform Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Nov, 8; 21 Feb, 197.<br />

Political Parties, Elections and<br />

Referendums Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 31 Jan, 142.<br />

Political Parties, Elections and<br />

Referendums Act 2000<br />

(Disapplication of Part IV for<br />

Northern Ireland Parties, etc)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 20 Dec, 78; JCSI report, 11 Jan,<br />

97; after debate, approved, 31 Jan, 143.<br />

Pollution Prevention and Control<br />

Act 1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Poverty in Developing Countries:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

26 Jan, 135.


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2004–05<br />

Practice Directions, Judicial:<br />

New editions, 7 Apr, 395.<br />

Prayers Against Negative<br />

Instruments:<br />

See Motions for Annulment.<br />

Pre-Legislative Scrutiny:<br />

See<br />

Charities Bill, Draft<br />

Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill,<br />

Draft<br />

Commissioner for Older People (Wales)<br />

Bill, Draft<br />

Corporate Manslaughter Bill, Draft<br />

Criminal Defence Service Bill, Draft<br />

Mental Health Bill, Draft<br />

Natural Environment and Rural<br />

Communities Bill, Draft<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005:<br />

Papers (per Act): 5 Apr, 379; 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill:<br />

JCHR report, 23 Feb, 213; DPRRC report,<br />

28 Feb, 224; 1a, explanatory notes, after<br />

debate 2a, committed to CWH, 1 Mar,<br />

234; Constitution Committee report, 2<br />

Mar, 239; JCHR report, 2 Mar, 239;<br />

CWH, motion to resume house withdrawn,<br />

3 Mar, 251, 252; CWH (div), 7<br />

Mar, 256, 257; report (6 divs); 3a, after<br />

debate passed, returned HC with<br />

amendments, 8 Mar, 264; DPRRC report,<br />

9 Mar, 279; from HC with amendments<br />

and reasons, 9 Mar, 280; LCCA (4 divs),<br />

from HC with amendments and reason,<br />

LCCA (3 divs), from HC with<br />

amendments, LCCA (3 divs), from HC<br />

with amendments, LCCA (2 divs), from<br />

HC with amendments and reason, LCCA<br />

(1 div), RA, 10 Mar, 287-90.<br />

Principal Deputy Chairman of<br />

Committees:<br />

See Deputy Chairmen of Committees.<br />

Prison Act 1952:<br />

Papers (per Act): 26 Jan, 135; 23 Mar, 359; 24<br />

Mar, 363.<br />

Prison Act (Northern Ireland)<br />

1953:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Mar, 359; 7 Apr, 396.<br />

Prisons:<br />

Papers (by command): 16 Mar, 330; 21<br />

Mar, 340.<br />

Private Bills:<br />

Bills printed in italics (no bills) were carried<br />

over from the previous session. Those marked<br />

* (all bills) did not receive Royal Assent<br />

Introduced in the House of Commons, see<br />

*HBOS Group Reorganisation Bill<br />

*London Local Authorities and<br />

Transport for London Bill<br />

*Whitstable Oyster Fishery Company<br />

Bill<br />

Introduced in the House of Lords, see<br />

*Liverpool City Council (Prohibition of<br />

Smoking in Places of Work) Bill [HL]<br />

*London Local Authorities Bill [HL]<br />

*London Local Authorities (Prohibition<br />

of Smoking in Places of Work) Bill<br />

[HL]<br />

Private Security Industry Act 2001:<br />

Papers (per Act): 1 Dec, 27; 9 Feb, 178; 23<br />

Feb, 212; 7 Apr, 395.<br />

Private Security Industry Act 2001<br />

(Amendments to Schedule 2)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 17 Jan, 111; JCSI report, 25 Jan,<br />

131; approved, 4 Feb, 159.<br />

Privileges, Committee for:<br />

Appointed, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

Probation Board (Northern<br />

Ireland) Order 1982:<br />

Paper (per Order): 14 Mar, 317.<br />

Procedure of the House Committee:<br />

Appointed, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Standing Orders; Public Bills:<br />

Exchanges between the Houses; Time for<br />

Committee debates; General debate day),<br />

10 Feb, 182; amendment, after debate,<br />

disagreed to (div), amendment agreed to,<br />

report as amended agreed to, 24 Mar,<br />

365.<br />

Proceeds of Crime Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Dec, 74; 7 Mar, 255.<br />

Prorogation:<br />

7 Apr, 397.<br />

Protection of Children Act 1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Dec, 85.<br />

Protection of Wrecks Act 1973:<br />

Papers (per Act): 9 Dec, 56.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

439<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Public Administration:<br />

Papers (by command): 10 Mar, 283.<br />

Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 285.<br />

Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004<br />

(Relaxation of Restriction on<br />

Disclosure) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 4 Feb, 158; withdrawn, second<br />

draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; after debate approved, 22 Mar, 351.<br />

Public Bills:<br />

Bills printed in italics were introduced by Private<br />

Members. Those marked with an asterisk<br />

did not receive Royal Assent. Consolidation<br />

bills (none), hybrid bills and money<br />

bills are marked as such<br />

Introduced in the House of Commons, see<br />

Appropriation Bill (Money)<br />

Child Benefit Bill<br />

Clean Neighbourhoods and<br />

Environment Bill<br />

Commissioners for Revenue and Customs<br />

Bill<br />

Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill<br />

(Money)<br />

Consolidated Fund Bill (Money)<br />

*Consumer Credit Bill<br />

*Crossrail Bill (Hybrid)<br />

Drugs Bill<br />

*Equality Bill<br />

Finance (No. 2) Bill<br />

Gambling Bill<br />

*Identity Cards Bill<br />

Income Tax (Trading and Other Income)<br />

Bill (Money)<br />

Mental Capacity Bill<br />

Prevention of Terrorism Bill<br />

Railways Bill<br />

*Road Safety Bill<br />

*School Transport Bill<br />

Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill<br />

Introduced in the House of Lords, see<br />

*Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill<br />

Bill [HL]<br />

*Borough Freedom (Family Succession)<br />

Bill [HL]<br />

*Charities Bill [HL]<br />

Constitutional Reform Bill [HL]<br />

Disability Discrimination Bill [HL]<br />

Education Bill [HL]<br />

Electoral Registration (Northern<br />

Ireland) Bill [HL]<br />

Inquiries Bill [HL]<br />

International Organisations Bill [HL]<br />

*Management of Offenders and<br />

Sentencing Bill [HL]<br />

*<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner<br />

(Amendment) Bill [HL]<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill<br />

[HL]<br />

*Registration of Cancer Bill [HL]<br />

*Renewable Energy Bill [HL]<br />

*Succession to the Crown Bill [HL]<br />

*Traffic Wardens and Parking<br />

Attendants Bill [HL]<br />

Public Lending Right Act 1979:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Dec, 32.<br />

Public Processions (Amendment)<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 22 Feb, 205; referred to GC, 7<br />

Mar, 256; GC, 15 Mar, 322, 327; approved,<br />

17 Mar, 336.<br />

Public Processions (Northern<br />

Ireland) Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Dec, 85; 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Public Services Ombudsman (Wales)<br />

Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 24 Nov, 8; DPRRC<br />

report, 15 Dec, 70; after debate 2a, committed<br />

to GC, 16 Dec, 75; marshalling<br />

order, 20 Dec, 79; GC, 25 Jan, 131;<br />

marshalling order, 8 Feb, 171; report (div),<br />

10 Feb, 183; 3a, passed, sent HC, 2 Mar,<br />

240; from HC agreed to, 6 Apr, 384; RA, 7<br />

Apr, 397.<br />

Queen’s Speech:<br />

At opening of session; reported by L. Chancellor;<br />

Address thereon moved and<br />

seconded; debate adjourned, 23 Nov, 2;<br />

debate resumed; after further debate<br />

adjourned, 24 Nov, 9; 25 Nov, 13; 29 Nov,<br />

18; debate resumed; after further debate,<br />

the motion to present an Humble Address<br />

to Her Majesty was agreed nemine dissentiente;<br />

ordered that Address be presented<br />

by the Lord Chamberlain, 30 Nov, 23;<br />

HM’s Answer, 2 Dec, 32.


440 GENERAL INDEX<br />

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2004–05<br />

Race Relations Act 1976:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Dec, 32.<br />

Radioactive Waste Management<br />

(S&T Report):<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

12 Jan, 102.<br />

Railways Act 1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Apr, 373; 5 Apr, 379.<br />

Railways and Transport Safety Act<br />

2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 27 Jan, 138.<br />

Railways Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 27 Jan, 139; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to GC, 10 Feb, 183;<br />

DPRRC report, 23 Feb, 212; marshalling<br />

order, 24 Feb, 218; GC, 28 Feb, 230; 3<br />

Mar, 252; 9 Mar, 279, 280; marshalling<br />

order, 23 Mar, 360; report (div), 4 Apr,<br />

373; DPRRC report, 3a (2 divs), passed,<br />

returned HC with amendments, 6 Apr,<br />

384; from HC with amendments and reasons,<br />

6 Apr, 385; LCCA, 7 Apr, 396; RA,<br />

7 Apr, 397.<br />

Refreshment Committee:<br />

Appointed, 2 Dec, 33.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Kitchen refurbishment), 2 Mar, 239.<br />

Regional Agencies and Bodies:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

1 Dec, 29.<br />

Registration of Cancer Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 15 Mar, 321.<br />

Registration Service Act 1953:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Dec, 75; 21 Dec, 85; 22<br />

Mar, 349.<br />

Regulation of Investigatory Powers<br />

(Communications Data)<br />

(Amendment) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 16 Dec, 74; JCSI Report, 18 Jan,<br />

115; after debate approved, 4 Feb, 159.<br />

Regulation of Investigatory Powers<br />

(Directed Surveillance and<br />

Covert Human Intelligence<br />

Sources) (Amendment) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 16 Dec, 74; JCSI report, 18 Jan,<br />

115; approved, 4 Feb, 159.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Execution of<br />

Deeds and Documents) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196; DPRRC report, 9<br />

Mar, 279.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196; withdrawn, 3 Mar,<br />

251; second draft laid, 7 Mar, 256;<br />

DPRRC report, 9 Mar, 279; withdrawn, 16<br />

Mar, 330; third draft laid, 17 Mar, 335;<br />

DPRRC report, 21 Mar, 341.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Joint Nature<br />

Conservation Committee) Order<br />

2005:<br />

DPRRC report, 8 Dec, 52; draft laid, 17 Jan,<br />

112; withdrawn, 18 Jan, 115; second draft<br />

laid, 24 Jan, 126; DPRRC report, 2 Feb,<br />

150; after debate approved, 2 Mar, 240.<br />

Regulatory Reform (National<br />

Health Service Charitable and<br />

Non-Charitable Trust Accounts<br />

and Audit) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; DPRRC report, 9<br />

Mar, 279; after debate approved, 24 Mar,<br />

365.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Prison<br />

Officers) (Industrial Action)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

DPRRC reports, 8 Dec, 52; draft laid, 11 Jan,<br />

97; DPRRC report, 2 Feb, 150; approved,<br />

1 Mar, 234.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Registration<br />

of Births and Deaths) (England<br />

and Wales) Order 2004:<br />

DPRRC report, 8 Dec, 52.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Trading<br />

Stamps) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 17 Jan, 112; DPRRC report, 2<br />

Feb, 150; after debate approved, 16 Mar,<br />

332.<br />

Regulatory Reform (Unsolicited<br />

Goods and Services Act 1971)<br />

(Directory Entries and Demands<br />

for Payment) Order 2004:<br />

After debate, approved, 21 Dec, 86.<br />

Regulatory State (Constitution<br />

Committee Report):<br />

Motion to take note, after debate, agreed to,<br />

2 Dec, 33.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

441<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Religious Attitudes:<br />

Unstarred question, 20 Dec, 79.<br />

Remand in Custody (Effect of<br />

Concurrent and Consecutive<br />

Sentences of Imprisonment) Rules<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 28 Feb, 224; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263.<br />

Renewable Energy Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 25 Nov, 12; after debate 2a, committed to<br />

CWH, 14 Jan, 109; DPRRC report, 19 Jan,<br />

119; order of commitment discharged, 31<br />

Jan, 143; 3a, passed, sent HC, 4 Feb, 159.<br />

Renewables Obligation Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; Merits report, 8 Mar, 263; approved,<br />

9 Mar, 280.<br />

Representation of the People Act<br />

1983:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Feb, 182.<br />

Representation of the People<br />

(Variation of Limits of<br />

Candidates’ Election Expenses)<br />

(City of London) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Dec, 55; JCSI report, 14 Dec, 65;<br />

after debate, approved, 27 Jan, 139.<br />

Reserve Forces Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 94; 1 Mar, 233; 15<br />

Mar, 321; 23 Mar, 359; 4 Apr, 373; 7<br />

Apr, 396.<br />

Restriction on the Preparation of<br />

Adoption Reports Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Mar, 238; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263.<br />

Revised Funding Code Prepared by<br />

the Legal Services Commission:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Mar, 278; approved, 22 Mar,<br />

351.<br />

Road Safety Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 9 Mar, 279.<br />

Road Traffic Act 1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Road Traffic Act 1991:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Dec, 65; 16 Dec, 74; 31<br />

Jan, 142; 2 Feb, 150; 7 Feb, 162; 10 Feb,<br />

182; 28 Feb, 224; 7 Mar, 255; 8 Mar, 262;<br />

21 Mar, 341.<br />

Road Traffic (NHS Charges) Act<br />

1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 284.<br />

Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Royal Assent:<br />

By Commission<br />

7 Apr (14 Acts), 397.<br />

By notification<br />

16 Dec (1 Act), 75; 24 Feb (1 Act), 218; 10<br />

Mar (1 Act), 290; 17 Mar (1 Act), 336; 24<br />

Mar (3 Acts, 3 Measures), 365.<br />

Saint Helena Act 1833:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 94; 10 Feb, 182.<br />

School Inspections Act 1996:<br />

Papers (per Act): 2 Feb, 150.<br />

School Standards and Framework<br />

Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 25 Nov, 12; 1 Dec, 27; 13<br />

Dec, 61; 20 Dec, 78; 10 Jan, 93, 94; 12 Jan,<br />

101; 14 Jan, 108; 24 Jan, 126; 21 Feb, 197;<br />

23 Feb, 212; 28 Feb, 224; 7 Mar, 255; 10<br />

Mar, 285; 4 Apr, 373.<br />

School Teachers’ Pay and<br />

Conditions Act 1991:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 285.<br />

School Transport Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 20 Dec, 79; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to GC, 31 Jan, 143;<br />

DPRRC report, 2 Feb, 150; GC, 7 Mar,<br />

259; 10 Mar, 288, 313.<br />

Schools: Pupil Behaviour:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

23 Mar, 360.<br />

Science and Technology Committee:<br />

Appointed, 1 Dec, 28.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Science and Treaties: follow-up), 20<br />

Jan, 123.<br />

2nd (Radioactive Waste Management:<br />

Government response), 21 Mar, 341.


442 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Reports from Session 2003-2004<br />

3rd (Science and Treaties), debated, 3 Feb,<br />

155.<br />

5th (Radioactive Waste Management),<br />

debated, 12 Jan, 102.<br />

Science and Treaties (S&T Report):<br />

Motion to take note, after debate agreed to,<br />

3 Feb, 155.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications<br />

of Schedule 5) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Dec, 55; JCSI report, 11 Jan, 97;<br />

after debate approved, 9 Feb, 178.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications<br />

of Schedule 5) (No. 2) Order<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 25 Jan, 130; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; approved, 9 Feb, 179.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (River Tweed)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Dec, 55; withdrawn, 12 Jan, 101.<br />

Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of<br />

Functions to the Scottish<br />

Ministers etc.) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Dec, 55; withdrawn, 12 Jan, 101;<br />

second draft laid, 18 Jan, 115; JCSI report,<br />

25 Jan, 131; approved, 9 Feb, 179.<br />

Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 14 Jan, 108.<br />

Security:<br />

Papers (by command): 4 Apr, 371.<br />

Select Vestries Bill:<br />

Presented; pro forma 1a, 23 Nov, 2.<br />

Selection, Committee of:<br />

Appointed, 24 Nov, 8.<br />

Reports<br />

1st, 25 Nov, 12.<br />

Sentenced Persons:<br />

Papers (by command): 4 Apr, 371.<br />

Serious Organised Crime and Police<br />

Bill:<br />

1a, explanatory notes, 8 Feb, 170; Constitution<br />

Committee report, 2 Mar, 239; after<br />

debate 2a, committed to CWH, 14 Mar,<br />

317; marshalling order, 15 Mar, 321;<br />

DPRRC report, 21 Mar, 341; CWH, 5<br />

Apr, 380; DPRRC report, 6 Apr, 384;<br />

report (2 divs), 3a, passed, returned HC<br />

with amendments, 6 Apr, 384; from HC<br />

agreed to, 7 Apr, 396; RA, 7 Apr, 397.<br />

Service Weapons:<br />

Papers (by command): 10 Jan, 92.<br />

Severn Bridges Act 1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 28 Feb, 224.<br />

Sexual Equality (EUC Report):<br />

Motion to take note, after debate, agreed to,<br />

2 Dec, 33.<br />

Sexual Offences Act 2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Feb, 162.<br />

Social Security:<br />

Papers (by command): 1 Feb, 146; 2 Feb, 150;<br />

14 Mar, 316.<br />

Social Security Act 1980:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Social Security Act 1988:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Social Security Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 4 Feb, 158; 21 Feb, 196.<br />

Social Security Administration Act<br />

1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 94; 12 Jan, 101; 17<br />

Jan, 112; 10 Feb, 182; 21 Feb, 195, 196; 28<br />

Feb, 224; 10 Mar, 284; 21 Mar, 341; 4<br />

Apr, 372.<br />

Social Security Administration<br />

(Northern Ireland) Act 1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Feb, 162.<br />

Social Security Benefits Up-Rating<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 1 Feb, 146; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 7 Mar, 257.<br />

Social Security, Child Support and<br />

Tax Credits (Decisions and<br />

Appeals) Amendment<br />

Regulations 2004:<br />

Approved, 16 Dec, 75.<br />

Social Security Commissioners<br />

(Procedure) (Amendment)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 23 Feb, 211; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; approved, 17 Mar, 336.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

443<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Social Security Commissioners<br />

(Procedure) (Child Trust Funds)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; approved, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Social Security Contributions and<br />

Benefits Act 1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 19 Jan, 119; 1 Feb, 146; 21<br />

Feb, 195, 196; 23 Feb, 212; 10 Mar, 284; 16<br />

Mar, 331; 17 Mar, 336; 21 Mar, 341; 23<br />

Mar, 359; 24 Mar, 363; 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Social Security (Contributions) (Re-<br />

Rating and National Insurance<br />

Funds Payments) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 1 Feb, 146; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Social Security (Inherited SERPS)<br />

(Amendment) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Social Security (Intensive Activity<br />

Period 50 to 59 Pilot) (No. 2)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Feb, 150; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Social Security (Intensive Activity<br />

Period 50 to 59 Pilot)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Feb, 150; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Social Security (Miscellaneous<br />

Provisions) Act 1977:<br />

Papers (per Act): 23 Mar, 360.<br />

Social Security (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Social Security Pensions Act 1975:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Mar, 341.<br />

South-West Territorial Waters<br />

(Prohibition of Pair Trawling)<br />

Order 2004:<br />

Motion to revoke, after debate withdrawn, 2<br />

Mar, 240.<br />

Special Educational Needs and<br />

Disability (Northern Ireland)<br />

Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; after debate approved,<br />

2 Mar, 240.<br />

Special Immigration Appeals<br />

Commission (Procedure)<br />

(Amendment) Rules 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 3 Feb, 154; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; withdrawn, 24 Feb, 217.<br />

Special Procedure Orders:<br />

See<br />

Midland Metro (Wednesbury to<br />

Brierley Hill and Miscellaneous<br />

Amendments) Order 2005<br />

Standards in Public Life:<br />

Papers (by command): 21 Dec, 85; 19 Jan,<br />

119.<br />

Standing Orders (Private Bills)<br />

Committee:<br />

Appointed, 6 Dec, 38.<br />

Standing Orders (Private Business):<br />

Amended, 4 Apr, 373.<br />

Standing Orders (Public Business):<br />

Amended: 5 Apr, 379.<br />

See also Business of the House<br />

Statutory Instruments:<br />

Notification that statutory instruments had<br />

come into operation before being laid<br />

before <strong>Parliament</strong>: 24 Nov, 8; 23 Feb, 212;<br />

16 Mar, 331.<br />

Statutory Instruments Joint<br />

Committee:<br />

Appointed, 7 Dec, 42; Lord added, 9 Dec, 56.<br />

Reports<br />

1st, 30 Nov, 21<br />

2nd, 7 Dec, 42<br />

3rd, 14 Dec, 65<br />

4th, 11 Jan, 97<br />

5th, 18 Jan, 115<br />

6th, 25 Jan, 131<br />

7th, 1 Feb, 146<br />

8th, 8 Feb, 170<br />

9th, 22 Feb, 206<br />

10th, 1 Mar, 233<br />

11th, 8 Mar, 263<br />

12th, 15 Mar, 321<br />

13th, 22 Mar, 350<br />

14th, 5 Apr, 379


444 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

Minutes of Proceedings 2003-04 printed: 13<br />

Dec, 61<br />

Minutes of Proceedings 2004-05 printed: 7<br />

Apr, 396<br />

Stipends (Cessation of Special<br />

Payments) Measure:<br />

Measure with report of Ecclesiastical Committee,<br />

24 Feb, 217; after debate approved,<br />

22 Mar, 350; RA, 24 Mar, 365.<br />

Stoppages in Streets:<br />

Order to prevent stoppages in streets renewed,<br />

23 Nov, 3.<br />

Succession to the Crown Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 8 Dec, 52; DPRRC report, 15 Dec, 70;<br />

Queen’s consent; motion for 2a after<br />

debate withdrawn, bill withdrawn, 14<br />

Jan, 109.<br />

Suitability of Adopters Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 2 Mar, 238; JCSI report, 8 Mar,<br />

263.<br />

Superannuation Act 1972:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 15 Mar, 321.<br />

Supreme Court Act 1981:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93.<br />

Tax Credits Act 2002:<br />

Papers (per Act): 1 Feb, 146; 3 Feb, 154; 17<br />

Mar, 336.<br />

Tax Credits Up-Rating Regulations<br />

2005:<br />

Draft laid, 31 Jan, 142; JCSI report, 8 Feb,<br />

170; after debate approved, 28 Feb, 225.<br />

Tax Law Rewrite Bills Joint<br />

Committee:<br />

Appointed, 9 Dec, 56.<br />

Reports<br />

1st (Income Tax (Trading and Other<br />

Income) Bill), 1 Feb, 146.<br />

Taxes Management Act 1970:<br />

Papers (per Act): 21 Feb, 195.<br />

Teaching and Higher Education<br />

Act 1998:<br />

Papers (per Act): 17 Jan, 112; 26 Jan, 134.<br />

Terrorism Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 20 Jan, 122.<br />

Terrorism Act 2000 (Continuance of<br />

Part VII) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 20 Jan, 122; JCSI report, 1 Feb,<br />

146; after debate approved, 9 Feb, 178.<br />

Town and Country Planning Act<br />

1990:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Jan, 93; 31 Jan, 142; 10<br />

Feb, 182; 3 Mar, 251; 9 Mar, 278.<br />

Town and Country Planning (Fees<br />

for Applications and Deemed<br />

Applications) (Amendment)<br />

(England) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 9 Feb, 177; JCSI report, 22 Feb,<br />

206; Merits report, 1 Mar, 233; after debate<br />

approved, 9 Mar, 279.<br />

Trade Marks Act 1994:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Mar, 255.<br />

Trade Union and Labour Relations<br />

(Consolidation) Act 1992:<br />

Papers (per Act): 16 Mar, 331.<br />

Trading Funds Act 1973:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60.<br />

Traffic Management Act 2004:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Mar, 284.<br />

Traffic Wardens and Parking<br />

Attendants Bill [HL]:<br />

1a, 18 Jan, 116; DPRRC report, 2 Feb, 150;<br />

after debate 2a, committed to CWH, 2<br />

Feb, 151.<br />

Transport:<br />

Papers (by command): 10 Jan, 92.<br />

Transport Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 31 Jan, 142.<br />

Treaty Series:<br />

Papers (by command): 26 Jan, 134.<br />

Trunk Road Charging Schemes<br />

(Bridges and Tunnels) (Keeping<br />

of Accounts) (England)<br />

Regulations 2003:<br />

Papers (per Regulations): 24 Mar, 364.<br />

Turkey and the European Union:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

15 Dec, 71.


2004–05 GENERAL INDEX<br />

445<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

Unauthorised Encampments<br />

(Northern Ireland) Order 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 21 Feb, 196.<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations:<br />

Unstarred question, 18 Jan, 116.<br />

Papers (by command): 24 Feb, 217.<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations Act 1946:<br />

Papers (per Act): 10 Feb, 182.<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations Reform and<br />

Conflict in Africa:<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

2 Feb, 151.<br />

<strong>United</strong> Nations: Rights of the Child<br />

Report 2002:<br />

Unstarred question in GC, 23 Mar, 361.<br />

Universities of Oxford and<br />

Cambridge Act 1923:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Dec, 37; 7 Dec, 41; 21<br />

Mar, 341.<br />

Unstarred Questions:<br />

Those marked * were debated in a lunch or dinner<br />

break. Those marked ! were debated in<br />

Grand Committee<br />

See<br />

*A27<br />

!Bovine Tuberculosis<br />

Caribbean Banana Growers<br />

Criminal Trials<br />

Critical National Infrastructure<br />

*Eurofighter Programme<br />

Extradition to the <strong>United</strong> States<br />

Gulf War Illnesses<br />

HIV/AIDS<br />

!H M Customs and Excise: Heavy Goods<br />

Vehicles<br />

H M Inspector of Prisons<br />

Marine Environment<br />

Mechanically-Propelled Vehicles<br />

Religious Attitudes<br />

*<strong>United</strong> Nations<br />

!<strong>United</strong> Nations: Rights of the Child<br />

Report 2002<br />

Vaccination Programme<br />

!World Conference on Women<br />

Unstarred Questions in Grand Committee<br />

time limited: 31 Jan, 143.<br />

Utilities Act 2000:<br />

Papers (per Act): 18 Jan, 115.<br />

Vaccination Programmme:<br />

Unstarred question, 8 Dec, 52.<br />

Waste and Emissions Trading Act<br />

2003:<br />

Papers (per Act): 13 Dec, 60; 23 Mar, 359.<br />

Water Fluoridation (Consultation)<br />

(England) Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 22 Feb, 205; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; after debate approved, 8 Mar, 264.<br />

Water Industry Act 1991:<br />

Papers (per Act): 7 Dec, 41; 19 Jan, 119; 10<br />

Feb, 182; 7 Mar, 256.<br />

Water Supply (Fluoridation<br />

Indemnities) (England)<br />

Regulations 2005:<br />

Draft laid, 22 Feb, 205; JCSI report, 1 Mar,<br />

233; approved, 8 Mar, 264.<br />

Welfare Reform and Pensions Act<br />

1999:<br />

Papers (per Act): 14 Mar, 316.<br />

Welsh Language Act 1993:<br />

Papers (per Act): 6 Apr, 384.<br />

West Northamptonshire<br />

Development Corporation (Area<br />

and Constitution) Order 2004:<br />

After debate, approved, 9 Dec, 57.<br />

Whitstable Oyster Fishery Company<br />

Bill:<br />

Petition for Bill, 29 Nov, 16; Examiners’ certificate,<br />

20 Dec, 78.<br />

Works of Art:<br />

Papers (by command): 24 Nov, 7; 16 Dec, 74.<br />

Works of Art Committee:<br />

Appointed, 6 Dec, 37.<br />

World Conference on Women:<br />

Unstarred question in GC, 22 Mar, 356.


446 GENERAL INDEX<br />

See also Judicial Index and Membership of the House, below<br />

2004–05<br />

World Trade Organization (EUC<br />

Report):<br />

Motion to take note, after debate, agreed to,<br />

2 Dec, 33.<br />

Zimbabwe (Balloted Debate):<br />

Motion for papers, after debate, withdrawn,<br />

9 Mar, 279.


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

447<br />

J U D I C I A L<br />

I N D E X<br />

7 Strathray Gardens Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Pointstar<br />

Shipping & Finance Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 18 Jan, 114; report, 24<br />

Feb, 217<br />

A and others (Appellants) (FC) and<br />

Others v. Secretary of State for<br />

The Home Department<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee; public funding certificate,<br />

13 Dec, 59; report, 9 Feb, 177; appeal<br />

presented, 23 Feb, 211; petition that<br />

appeals be conjoined; ordered as prayed, 6<br />

Apr, 383<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

A and Others (Appellants) v. Secretary<br />

of State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent)(2004)<br />

A and Others (Appellants) (FC) and<br />

Others v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Respondent)<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)<br />

A and Others (Appellants) v.<br />

Secretary of State for The Home<br />

Department (Respondent)(2004):<br />

Report, 9 Feb, 177; appeal presented, 23 Feb,<br />

211; petition for leave to intervene referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 15 Mar, 320; petition<br />

that appeals be conjoined; ordered as<br />

prayed, 6 Apr, 383; report, 18 Apr, 403<br />

For further proceedings see next entry<br />

A and Others (Appellants) v.<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent) (2004):<br />

A and Others (Appellants) (FC) and<br />

Others v. Secretary of State for<br />

the Home Department<br />

(Respondent):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Extension of time, 7 Apr, 394;<br />

A (FC) and Others (Appellants) v.<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent):<br />

Judgment, 16 Dec, 73<br />

Abumujor (Petitioner) v. Kingston<br />

University (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 13 Jan, 104; report, 8<br />

Mar, 262<br />

AE (FC) and Another (Appellants)<br />

v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to intervene referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 29 Nov, 15; report, 1<br />

Dec, 26<br />

Agassi (Respondent) v. Robinson<br />

(Her Majesty’s Inspector of<br />

Taxes) (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Feb, 161; report, 10<br />

May, 412<br />

Ahmad (Petitioner) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 24 Feb, 215<br />

Akumah (FC) (Appellant) v. London<br />

Borough of Hackney<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Judgment, 3 Mar, 251<br />

Al Fayed (Petitioner) and Another<br />

and Others (Petitioners) v.<br />

Commissioner of Police of the<br />

Metropolis and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 24 Jan, 125; report, 7<br />

Apr, 395<br />

Ali (FC) (Respondent) v.<br />

Headteacher and Governors of<br />

Lord Grey School (Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 13 Dec, 60; 25 Jan, 130;<br />

21 Mar, 340; extension of time referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

9 Mar, 278; extension granted, 21<br />

Mar, 340; set down for hearing and referred<br />

to Appellate Committee, 13 Apr, 401


448 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

AMEC Civil Engineering Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Secretary of<br />

State For Transport<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 18 Apr, 403<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 1 Dec, 26; 12 Jan, 100;<br />

petition that appeal be conjoined, ordered<br />

as prayed, 10 Feb, 181<br />

For further proceedings see next entry<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants):<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited<br />

and Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

The Future Network Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited<br />

and Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants):<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Extension of time, 24 Feb, 216; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 4 Apr, 370<br />

Ayliffe and Others (Petitioners) v.<br />

Director of Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 5 May, 410<br />

Bailey and Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Home Office (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 25 Apr, 406<br />

Barclays Mercantile Business<br />

Finance Limited (Respondents) v.<br />

Mawson (Her Majesty’s<br />

Inspector of Taxes) (Appellant):<br />

Judgment, 25 Nov, 11<br />

Barker (Respondent) v. Saint<br />

Gobain Pipelines Plc<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Murray (Widow and Executrix of<br />

the Estate of John Lawrence<br />

Murray (Deceased))<br />

(Respondent) v. British<br />

Shipbuilders (Hydrodynamics)<br />

Limited (Appellants) and Others<br />

and Others (Appellants)<br />

Patterson (Son and Executor of the<br />

Estate of J Patterson (Deceased))<br />

(Respondent) v. Smiths Dock<br />

Limited (Appellants) and Others<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)<br />

Extension of time, 6 Dec, 36; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 17 Jan, 111<br />

Beynon and Partners (Respondents)<br />

v. Her Majesty’s Commissioners<br />

of Customs and Excise<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Judgment, 25 Nov, 11<br />

Bhamjee (Petitioner) v. Forsdick and<br />

Others (Respondents) and One<br />

Other Action:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 22 Feb, 205<br />

Bhamjee (Petitioner) v. Secretary of<br />

State for The Environment,<br />

Transport and the Regions and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 14 Mar, 315


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

449<br />

Birmingham City Council<br />

(Respondents) v. Doherty (FC)<br />

(Petitioner) and Others:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1969 referred to Appeal Committee, public<br />

funding certificate, 31 Jan, 142<br />

Blackburn Chemicals Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Bim Kemi AB<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 8 Dec, 51; report, 10<br />

Feb, 181<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited<br />

and Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 1 Dec, 26; 12 Jan, 100;<br />

petition that appeal be conjoined, ordered<br />

as prayed, 10 Feb, 181<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

The Future Network Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Bottomley (Respondent) v.<br />

Secretary and Members of<br />

Todmorden Cricket Club<br />

(Appellants) and Others:<br />

Petition that appeal be withdrawn on the<br />

terms agreed between the parties ordered<br />

as prayed, 23 Mar, 359<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 1 Dec, 26; 12 Jan, 101;<br />

petition that appeal be conjoined, ordered<br />

as prayed, 10 Feb, 181<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

The Future Network Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

(Conjoined Appeals)<br />

Brooks (FC) (Respondent) v.<br />

Commissioner of Police for the<br />

Metropolis (Appellant) and<br />

Others:<br />

Judgment, 21 Apr, 406<br />

Brown (Appellant) v. Scottish<br />

Ministers (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Extensions of time, 24 Nov, 6; 10 Jan, 92; 11<br />

Jan, 97; 19 Jan, 118; 16 Feb, 192; set down<br />

for hearing and referred to Appellate Committee,<br />

2 Mar, 237; petition to vacate hearing<br />

date and waive security for costs referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 395;<br />

report, 13 Apr, 402<br />

Brunt and Others (Petitioners) v.<br />

Southampton International<br />

Airport Limited (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Mar, 255


450 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

Bultitude (Petitioner) v. Law<br />

Society (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 17 Jan, 111; report, 20<br />

Apr, 404<br />

Burton (Her Majesty’s Collector of<br />

Taxes) (Respondent) v. Mellham<br />

Limited (Appellants):<br />

Petition to restore appeal (time limited by SO<br />

V having expired) presented, ordered as<br />

prayed, 16 Dec, 73; set down for hearing<br />

and referred to Appellate Committee, 27<br />

Jan, 138<br />

CIBC Mellon Trust Company<br />

(Acting in its Capacity as<br />

Trustee of the Chrysler Canada<br />

Limited’s Benefits Plan, the<br />

Chrysler Canada Limited Master<br />

Trust Fund, the Chrysler<br />

Canada Limited Non-Canadian<br />

Master Trust and the Holmes<br />

Foundry Division Master Trust<br />

Fund and the Chrysler Canada<br />

Limited Supplemental<br />

Unemployment Benefit Plans)<br />

and Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Stolzenberg and Others and<br />

Others (Petitioners):<br />

Report, 14 Dec, 64<br />

Clare (FC) (Petitioner) v. Perry<br />

(Trading as Widemouth Manor<br />

Hotel) (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

4 Apr, 370<br />

Clays Lane Housing Co-Operative<br />

Limited (Petitioners) v. Housing<br />

Corporation (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91; report, 24<br />

Feb, 217<br />

CMA CGM SA (Original<br />

Appellants and Cross-<br />

Respondents) v. Classica<br />

Shipping Company Limited<br />

(Original Respondents and<br />

Cross-Appellants):<br />

Petition for leave to cross-appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 15 Dec, 69; report, 16<br />

Dec, 74; cross-appeal presented, extension<br />

of time, 10 Jan, 91; set down for hearing<br />

and referred to Appellate Committee, 1<br />

Feb, 146<br />

Codona (FC) (Petitioner) v. Mid<br />

Bedfordshire District Council<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 16 Dec, 73<br />

College of Estate Management<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 7; appeal presented, 8 Dec,<br />

51; extensions of time, 20 Jan, 122; 1 Mar,<br />

232; 4 Apr, 371<br />

Concord Trust (Original<br />

Appellants and Cross-<br />

Respondents) v. Law Debenture<br />

Trust Corporation Plc<br />

(Original Respondents and<br />

Cross-Appellants):<br />

Extension of time, 12 Jan, 101; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate Committee,<br />

19 Jan, 118; judgment, 28 Apr, 408<br />

Connex South Eastern Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Bangs<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 23 Feb, 211; report, 4<br />

May, 410<br />

Corbett (Petitioner) v. Bond Pearce<br />

(A Firm) (Respondents):<br />

Reports, 14 Dec, 64; 17 Jan, 111<br />

Currey (Petitioner) v. Currey<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 24 Jan, 125; report, 17<br />

Mar, 335<br />

CV Scheepvaartonderneming<br />

Flintermar (Respondents) v. Sea<br />

Malta Company Limited<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 23 Feb, 211<br />

Davidson (AP) (Appellant) v.<br />

Scottish Ministers (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, 8 Mar, 262; legal aid certificate,<br />

7 Apr, 395; extension of time, 18<br />

Apr, 403


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

451<br />

Deep Vein Thrombosis and Air<br />

Travel Group Litigation (8<br />

Actions) (Formerly 24 Actions):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 9 Dec, 55<br />

Department for Work and Pensions<br />

(Respondents) v. Webley<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 20 Jan, 122; report, 21<br />

Apr, 405<br />

Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Group<br />

Plc (Appellants) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue and Another<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Appeal presented, 4 May, 409<br />

Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Group<br />

Plc (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue and Another<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Mar, 255<br />

Dornoch Limited and Others<br />

(Petitioners) v. Royal and Sun<br />

Alliance Insurance Plc<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Durant (Petitioner) v. Financial<br />

Services Authority<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 25 Apr, 406<br />

Fattal and Another (Petitioners) v.<br />

John Lyon’s Charity<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91; report, 16<br />

Mar, 330<br />

Fayed and Others (Appellants) v.<br />

Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Extension of time, 11 Jan, 96; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate Committee,<br />

1 Feb, 145<br />

Feasey (A Representative Lloyd’s<br />

Underwriter Suing on his own<br />

behalf and on behalf of all the<br />

Members of Syndicate 957)<br />

(Respondent) v. Sun Life<br />

Assurance Company of Canada<br />

(Appellants) and Others and<br />

One Other Action<br />

Steamship Mutual Underwriting<br />

Association (Bermuda) Limited<br />

(Respondents) v. Feasey (A<br />

Representative Lloyd’s<br />

Underwriter suing on his own<br />

behalf and on behalf of all the<br />

Members of Syndicate 957)<br />

(Appellant) and one Other<br />

Action<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Petition that appeals be withdrawn on the<br />

terms agreed between the parties ordered<br />

as prayed, 21 Apr, 405<br />

Feld (FC) (Petitioner) v. London<br />

Borough of Barnet<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 24 Jan, 125<br />

Fengate Developments (A<br />

Partnership) (Petitioners) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91<br />

Fourie (Petitioner) v. Le Roux and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 18 Apr, 403<br />

Freakley and Others (Petitioners) v.<br />

Centre Reinsurance<br />

International Company and<br />

Others (Respondents) and One<br />

Other Action:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 9 Mar, 278<br />

G (FC) (Petitioner) v. Immigration<br />

Appeal Tribunal (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

4 Apr, 370


452 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

Gardner (Appellant) v. Parker<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition that appeal be withdrawn on the<br />

terms agreed between the parties ordered<br />

as prayed, 24 Nov, 6<br />

Gardner (Applicant) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 29 Nov, 15<br />

Gillies (AP) (Appellant) v.<br />

Secretary of State for Work<br />

and Pensions (Respondent)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 29 Nov, 15<br />

Gottlieb and Another (Petitioners)<br />

v. Axa General Insurance<br />

Limited (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 9 Mar, 278<br />

Government of Albania<br />

(Petitioners) v. Bleta and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 21 Apr, 405<br />

Gravgaard (Petitioner) v. Aldridge<br />

& Brownlee (A Firm)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 19 Jan, 118; report, 20<br />

Apr, 404<br />

Greenalls Management Limited<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Appellants):<br />

Cause fully heard, 13 Apr, 402<br />

Gregg (FC) (Appellant) v. Scott<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Judgment, 27 Jan, 137<br />

Habib Bank Limited (Petitioners) v.<br />

Iqbal (Respondent):<br />

Report, 16 Dec, 74<br />

Habib Bank Limited (Respondents) v.<br />

Liverpool Freeport<br />

(Electronics) Limited and Others<br />

and Another (Petitioner) and<br />

One Other Action:<br />

Report, 16 Dec, 74<br />

Harding (Appellant) v. Wealands<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Appeal presented, 14 Mar, 315; security for<br />

costs waived, 14 Mar, 316; extension of<br />

time, 25 Apr, 407<br />

Hare (Petitioner) v. Leeds City<br />

Council and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 13 Apr, 401<br />

Harper (Appellant) v. Virgin Net<br />

Limited (Respondents):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 24 Nov, 6<br />

Harris (Petitioner) v. Harris<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 14 Jan, 108; report, 17<br />

Mar, 335<br />

Haward and Others (Respondents)<br />

v. Fawcetts (A Firm)<br />

(Appellants) and Others:<br />

Extension of time, 24 Nov, 6; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate Committee,<br />

13 Dec, 60<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General<br />

(Respondent) v. Bhamjee<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, payment of fees<br />

waived, 2 Feb, 149; report, 7 Feb, 162;<br />

report, 18 Apr, 403<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General<br />

(Respondent) v. Mensah<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General<br />

(Respondent) v. Pelling<br />

(Petitioner) (First Petition):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1960 referred to Appeal Committee, 10<br />

May, 412


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

453<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General<br />

(Respondent) v. Pelling<br />

(Petitioner) (Second Petition):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1960 referred to Appeal Committee, 10<br />

May, 412<br />

Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise<br />

(Respondents) v. Barclays Bank<br />

Plc (Appellants):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91; report, 8<br />

Mar, 262; appeal presented, 23 Mar, 358;<br />

security for costs waived, 23 Mar, 359; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 4 May, 409<br />

Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise<br />

(Respondents) v. First Choice<br />

Holidays Plc (Petitioners):<br />

Report, 15 Dec, 69<br />

Her Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants) v.<br />

Scottish Provident Institution<br />

(Respondents) (Scotland):<br />

Judgment, 25 Nov, 11<br />

Hilton (Appellant) v. Barker Booth<br />

and Eastwood (A Firm)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Judgment, 3 Feb, 154<br />

Hinchy (Respondent) v. Secretary<br />

of State for Work and Pensions<br />

(Appellant):<br />

Judgment, 3 Mar, 251<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 1 Dec, 26; 12 Jan, 101;<br />

petition that appeal be conjoined, ordered<br />

as prayed, 10 Feb, 181<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

The Future Network Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Hockenjos (Respondent) v.<br />

Secretary of State For Work<br />

and Pensions (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 24 Jan, 125<br />

Horton (Original Appellant and<br />

Cross-Respondent) v. Sadler and<br />

Others (Original Respondents<br />

and Cross-Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 14 Dec, 64; 25 Jan, 130; 8<br />

Mar, 262; cross-appeal presented, 14 Mar,<br />

315; set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 25 Apr, 407<br />

In Re B (FC) (Appellant) (2002):<br />

Petition for leave to intervene referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 6 Dec, 36; report, 9<br />

Dec, 55; judgment, 10 Mar, 283<br />

In Re D (A Child Appearing by her<br />

Guardian Ad Litem)<br />

(Respondent) (FC):<br />

Extension of time; public funding certificate,<br />

24 Nov, 6; extension of time, 10 Jan, 92; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 24 Feb, 216; petition to lodge<br />

separate case ordered as prayed, 23 Mar,<br />

359<br />

In Re Faraj (FC) (Petitioner)<br />

(Application for a Writ of<br />

Habeas Corpus):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal and extension of<br />

time referred to Appeal Committee, public<br />

funding certificate, 15 Mar, 320


454 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

In Re Hewitson (Petitioner)<br />

(Application for a Writ of<br />

Habeas Corpus):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1960 and for extension of time referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 16 Feb, 192<br />

In Re J (A Child)(FC):<br />

Report, 13 Jan, 105; appeal presented, 27<br />

Jan, 138; public funding certificate, 1 Feb,<br />

146; extensions of time, 10 Mar, 283; 4<br />

Apr, 371; set down for hearing and referred<br />

to Appellate Committee, 5 Apr, 378; petition<br />

for leave to intervene referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 18 Apr, 403; report, 20<br />

Apr, 405; cause heard in part, 4 May, 410;<br />

cause fully heard and consideration<br />

adjourned sine die, 5 May, 410<br />

In Re Marotta (Petitioner)<br />

(Application for a Writ of<br />

Habeas Corpus) (Northern<br />

Ireland):<br />

Extension of time, 9 May, 411<br />

In Re McClean (Original<br />

Respondent and Cross-<br />

Appellant) (On Appeal from the<br />

Court of Appeal (Northern<br />

Ireland)) (Northern Ireland):<br />

Extension of time, 8 Dec, 51; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate Committee,<br />

18 Jan, 115; petitions for leave to intervene<br />

referred to Appeal Committee, 2 Feb,<br />

149; 7 Feb, 161; reports, 8 Feb, 169<br />

In Re McKerr (AP) (Respondent)<br />

(Northern Ireland):<br />

Further order for costs, 4 May, 409<br />

In Re O (Appellant) (Application<br />

for a Writ of Habeas Corpus)<br />

(Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice):<br />

Appeal presented, 9 May, 411<br />

In Re Sinn Fein (Appellants)<br />

(Northern Ireland):<br />

Extensions of time, 24 Nov, 6; 12 Jan, 100; 31<br />

Jan, 142; petition that appeal be withdrawn<br />

on the terms agreed between the<br />

parties ordered as prayed, 10 Mar, 283<br />

In Re W (Children):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 3 Mar, 251; report, 4<br />

May, 410<br />

In Re Wellington (Petitioner)<br />

(Application for a Writ of<br />

Habeas Corpus):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 6<br />

JD (FC) (Appellant) v. East<br />

Berkshire Community Health<br />

NHS Trust and Others<br />

(Respondents) and Two Other<br />

Actions (FC):<br />

Judgment, 21 Apr, 406<br />

J & H Ritchie Limited (Appellants)<br />

v. Lloyd Limited (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, 13 Apr, 401<br />

JI Macwilliam Company Inc<br />

(Respondents) v. Mediterranean<br />

Shipping Company SA<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Judgment, 16 Feb, 191<br />

Jackson and Another (Original<br />

Appellants and Cross-<br />

Respondents) v. Royal Bank of<br />

Scotland (Original Respondents<br />

and Cross-Appellants):<br />

Judgment, 27 Jan, 137<br />

Jackson and Others (Appellants) v.<br />

Her Majesty’s Attorney General<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 24 Feb, 215; report, 9<br />

Mar, 278; appeal presented, security for<br />

costs waived, 23 Mar, 358, 359; petition for<br />

leave to intervene referred to Appeal Committee,<br />

5 Apr, 378; report, 13 Apr, 402;<br />

extension of time, 4 May, 409<br />

Jafari-Fini (Petitioner) v. Skillglass<br />

Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 4 Apr, 370<br />

Jameel and Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Wall Street Journal Europe<br />

SPRL (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 2 Mar, 237; report, 4<br />

May, 410


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

455<br />

Jindal Iron and Steel Co Limited<br />

and Others (Appellants) and<br />

Others v. Islamic Solidarity<br />

Shipping Company Jordan Inc<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Judgment, 25 Nov, 11<br />

Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya as Saudiya (The<br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Appeal presented, 1 Feb, 145; security for<br />

costs waived, 8 Feb, 169; petition that<br />

appeals be conjoined; ordered as prayed, 7<br />

Mar, 255<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as<br />

Saudiya (The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi<br />

Arabia) (Appellants)<br />

Mitchell and Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Al-Dali and Others and Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as<br />

Saudiya (The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi<br />

Arabia) (Appellants)<br />

Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as<br />

Saudiya (The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi<br />

Arabia) (Respondents)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya as Saudiya (The<br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia)<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Appeal presented, 24 Jan, 125; petition that<br />

appeals be conjoined; ordered as prayed, 7<br />

Mar, 255<br />

For further proceedings see next entry<br />

Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya as Saudiya (The<br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia)<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Mitchell and Others (Respondents)<br />

v. Al-Dali and Others and<br />

Ministry of Interior Al-<br />

Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as Saudiya<br />

(The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia)<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-<br />

Arabiya as Saudiya (The<br />

<strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia)<br />

(Respondents)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Extension of time, 15 Mar, 320; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 26 Apr, 407<br />

Jones (Trading as Shamrock<br />

Coaches) (Petitioner) v.<br />

Department of Transport Welsh<br />

Traffic Area (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 21 Feb, 194<br />

Kay and Others and Another (FC)<br />

(Petitioners) v. London Borough<br />

of Lambeth and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

9 Mar, 278<br />

Kinane (Respondent) v. Mackie-<br />

Conteh (Petitioner) and Others:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 28 Feb, 223; report, 10<br />

May, 412<br />

Kirin-Amgen Inc and Others<br />

(Appellants) v. Hoechst Marion<br />

Roussel Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Kirin-Amgen Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Hoechst Marion<br />

Roussel Limited and Others<br />

(Appellants):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Further judgment and costs order, 21 Mar,<br />

339<br />

Kohanzad (Petitioner) v. Derbyshire<br />

Police Authority (Respondents):<br />

Report, 25 Jan, 130<br />

Kosky Seal & Co (Respondents) v.<br />

Mahajan (Applicant):<br />

Report, 1 Dec, 27<br />

Kuwait Airways Corporation<br />

(Respondents) v. Iraqi Airways<br />

Company (Petitioners) (2005):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 4 Apr, 370


456 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

Land Securities Group Plc<br />

(Appellants) v. Scottish<br />

Ministers and Others<br />

(Respondents) (Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, 4 May, 409<br />

Law Society (Respondents) v.<br />

Sephton & Co (A Firm)<br />

(Appellants) and Another and<br />

Others (Appellants):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91; report, 24<br />

Feb, 217; appeal presented, 10 Mar, 283;<br />

security for costs waived, 16 Mar, 330;<br />

extension of time, 21 Apr, 405<br />

Law Society (Original Respondents<br />

and Cross-Petitioners) v. Sephton<br />

& Co (A Firm) (Original<br />

Petitioners and Cross-<br />

Respondents) and Another and<br />

Others (Original Petitioners and<br />

Cross-Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to cross-appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 9 May, 411<br />

Leeds City Council (Respondents) v.<br />

Price and Others and Others<br />

(FC) (Appellants) (England):<br />

Appeal presented, public funding certificate,<br />

25 Apr, 406<br />

Lesotho Highlands Development<br />

Authority (Respondents) v.<br />

Impregilo SPA and Others<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Cause heard in part, 9 May, 411; cause fully<br />

heard and consideration adjourned sine<br />

die, 10 May, 412<br />

Lewin (Northamptonshire County<br />

Council Trading Standards<br />

Service) (Petitioner) v. Purity<br />

Soft Drinks Limited<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1960 referred to Appeal Committee, 25<br />

Jan, 129; report, 7 Apr, 395; report, 4<br />

May, 409<br />

Lincoln National Life Insurance<br />

Company (Petitioners) v. Sun Life<br />

Assurance Company of Canada<br />

and Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 19 Jan, 118; report, 20<br />

Apr, 404<br />

London Borough of Enfield<br />

(Respondents) v. Sivanandan<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 4 May, 409<br />

London Borough of Islington<br />

(Respondents) v. Green and<br />

Another (FC) (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

14 Mar, 315<br />

London Borough of Newham<br />

(Respondents) v. Kibata (FC)<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee; public funding<br />

certificate, 20 Jan, 122; report, 17 Mar, 335<br />

London Borough of Tower Hamlets<br />

(Petitioners) v. Begum<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 20 Apr, 404<br />

London Borough of Waltham<br />

Forest (Respondents) v. Omilaju<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 13 Dec, 59; report, 16<br />

Feb, 192<br />

London Diocesan Fund and Others<br />

and Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Avonridge Property Company<br />

Limited (Appellants):<br />

Report, 24 Jan, 125; appeal presented, 7 Feb,<br />

161; set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 21 Mar, 340<br />

M (FC) (Petitioner) v. Immigration<br />

Appeal Tribunal (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

4 Apr, 370<br />

McCarroll (Petitioner) v. Statham<br />

Gill Davies (a Firm)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Mar, 254


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

457<br />

McFarlane (Appellant) v.<br />

McFarlane (Respondent):<br />

Appeal presented, 24 Nov, 5; extension of<br />

time, 10 Jan, 91; set down for hearing and<br />

referred to Appellate Committee, 24 Feb,<br />

216<br />

Madden (Petitioner) v. Preferred<br />

Technical Group CHA Limited<br />

and Another (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 30 Nov, 21<br />

Maguire (Personal Representative<br />

of the Estate of Teresa Maguire,<br />

Deceased) (Petitioner) v.<br />

Harland & Wolff Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 24 Feb, 215<br />

Mahajan (Petitioner) v. Department<br />

for Constitutional Affairs<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 1 Dec, 26<br />

Majrowski (Respondent) v. Guy’s<br />

and St. Thomas’ NHS Trust<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 401<br />

Massey and Another (Appellants) v.<br />

Boulden and Another<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Extensions of time, 16 Dec, 73; 27 Jan, 138;<br />

14 Mar, 316; 25 Apr, 407<br />

Matthews and Others (Appellants)<br />

v. Kent and Medway Towns Fire<br />

Authority and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Appeal presented, 24 Nov, 6; security for<br />

costs waived, 9 Dec, 55; extensions of time,<br />

10 Jan, 92; 9 Feb, 176; set down for hearing<br />

and referred to Appellate Committee, 15<br />

Mar, 320<br />

Mayne Pharma PTY Limited and<br />

Others (Petitioners) v.<br />

Pharmacia Italia SPA<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 13 Apr, 401<br />

Melville (Respondent) v. Home<br />

Office (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 22 Feb, 205; report, 4<br />

May, 410<br />

Mensah (Petitioner) v. Jones<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 13 Jan, 104; report, 10<br />

Feb, 181<br />

MH (By Her Litigation Friend,<br />

Official Solicitor) (Respondent)<br />

v. Secretary of State for The<br />

Department of Health<br />

(Appellant) and Others:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91; report, 21<br />

Feb, 194; appeal presented, 7 Mar, 254;<br />

extension of time, 18 Apr, 403<br />

Midland Mainline Limited and<br />

Others (Petitioners) v.<br />

Commercial Union Assurance<br />

Company Limited and Others and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Report, 15 Dec, 69<br />

Miles (Petitioner) v. Chief<br />

Constable of Kent (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, payment of fees waived,<br />

2 Feb, 149; report, 18 Apr, 403<br />

Mitchell and Others (Respondents)<br />

v. Al-Dali and Others and<br />

Ministry of Interior Al-<br />

Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as Saudiya<br />

(The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi Arabia)<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Appeal presented, 24 Jan, 125; petition that<br />

appeals be conjoined; ordered as prayed, 7<br />

Mar, 255<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Jones (Respondent) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as<br />

Saudiya (The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi<br />

Arabia) (Appellants)<br />

Mitchell and Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Al-Dali and Others and Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as<br />

Saudiya (The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi<br />

Arabia) (Appellants)


458 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

Jones (Appellant) v. Ministry of<br />

Interior Al-Mamlaka Al-Arabiya as<br />

Saudiya (The <strong>Kingdom</strong> of Saudi<br />

Arabia) (Respondents)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Moncrieff and Another<br />

(Respondents) v. Jamieson and<br />

Others (Appellants) (Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, 4 May, 409<br />

Moy v. Pettman Smith (A Firm)<br />

(Original Respondents and<br />

Cross-Appellants) and Another<br />

(Original Appellant and Cross-<br />

Respondent):<br />

Judgment, 3 Feb, 154<br />

Mukasa (Aka Barker) (Petitioner) v.<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 14 Mar, 315<br />

Murphy (Petitioner) v. Slough<br />

Borough Council and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 28 Apr, 408<br />

N (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary of<br />

State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 13 Dec, 60; judgment, 5<br />

May, 411<br />

N (Kenya) (FC) (Petitioner) v.<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee; public funding certificate,<br />

7 Dec, 41; report, 26 Jan, 134<br />

National Car Parks Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Baird and<br />

Another (Valuation Officers)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 7<br />

National Westminster Bank Plc<br />

(Respondents) v. Spectrum Plus<br />

Limited and Others and Others<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Cause heard in part, 25 Apr, 407; cause<br />

further heard, 26 Apr, 407; 27 Apr, 407;<br />

cause fully heard and consideration<br />

adjourned sine die, 28 Apr, 408<br />

NCR Limited (Petitioners) v.<br />

Riverland Portfolio No. 1<br />

Limited (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 21 Apr, 405<br />

Ntiamoah-Kumah (Petitioners) v.<br />

Osbournes (A Firm)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 13 Apr, 401<br />

OBG Limited and Others<br />

(Petitioners) v. Allan and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 17 Mar, 335<br />

O’Brien (Respondent) v. Chief<br />

Constable of South Wales Police<br />

(Appellant):<br />

Judgment, 28 Apr, 408<br />

O’Connell (Petitioner) v. Ipswich<br />

Crown Court (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 21 Mar, 340<br />

O (FC) (Appellant) v. Crown Court<br />

at Harrow (Respondents)<br />

(Criminal Appeal From Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice):<br />

Appeal presented, 9 May, 411<br />

Office of the King’s Prosecutor,<br />

Brussels (Respondents) v. Armas<br />

(Appellant) and Others<br />

(Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice):<br />

Report, 29 Nov, 15; appeal presented, 14<br />

Dec, 64; set down for hearing and referred<br />

to Appellate Committee, 16 Feb, 192


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

459<br />

Osmani (FC) (Petitioner) v. London<br />

Borough of Camden<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee; public funding<br />

certificate, 28 Feb, 223<br />

Oxfordshire County Council<br />

(Respondents) v. Oxford City<br />

Council (Respondents) and<br />

Another (Petitioner) (2005):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Oxfordshire County Council<br />

(Respondents) v. Oxford City<br />

Council (Petitioners) and<br />

Another (Respondent) (2005):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Oxfordshire County Council<br />

(Petitioners) v. Oxford City<br />

Council and Another<br />

(Respondents) (2005):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Percy (AP) (Appellant) v. Church<br />

of Scotland Board of National<br />

Mission (Respondents)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 29 Nov, 15<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited<br />

and Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 1 Dec, 26; 12 Jan, 101;<br />

petition that appeal be conjoined, ordered<br />

as prayed, 10 Feb, 181<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

The Future Network Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Pirelli Cable Holding NV and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 13 Dec, 59<br />

Polanski (Appellant) v. Conde Nast<br />

Publications Limited<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Judgment, 10 Feb, 181<br />

Pour (FC) (Petitioner) v. Lord<br />

Mayor and Citizens of the City<br />

of Westminster (Respondents):<br />

Report, 24 Jan, 125<br />

Powerhouse Retail Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Burroughs and Others<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Report, 26 Jan, 134; appeal presented, 9 Feb,<br />

176; security for costs waived, 16 Feb, 192;<br />

extension of time, 21 Mar, 340; petition for<br />

leave to intervene referred to Appeal Committee,<br />

7 Apr, 394; report, 18 Apr, 403; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 19 Apr, 404<br />

Quintavalle (On Behalf of Comment<br />

on Reproductive Ethics)<br />

(Appellant) v. Human<br />

Fertilisation and Embryology<br />

Authority (Respondents):<br />

Judgment, 28 Apr, 408


460 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

2004–05<br />

R (on the Application of Begum (By<br />

Her Litigation Friend, Rahman))<br />

(Respondent) v. Headteacher and<br />

Governors of Denbigh High<br />

School (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 4 Apr, 370<br />

R (on the Application of Bhamjee)<br />

(Petitioner) v. Legal Services<br />

Ombudsman and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 14 Mar, 316<br />

R (on the Application of Bhamjee)<br />

(Petitioner) v. Secretary of State<br />

for the Environment, Transport<br />

and the Regions and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 14 Mar, 316<br />

R (on the Application of Bushell<br />

and Others) (Respondents) v.<br />

Newcastle Upon Tyne Licensing<br />

Justices and Others<br />

(Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 13 Dec, 60; 10 Jan, 92; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 24 Jan, 125<br />

R (on the Application of C (FC) and<br />

Another (FC)) (Children Acting<br />

through their Father and<br />

Litigation Friend) (Petitioners)<br />

v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Foreign and Commonwealth<br />

Office (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee; public funding certificate,<br />

2 Dec, 31; report, 13 Jan, 105<br />

R (on the Application of<br />

Corporation of London)<br />

(Respondents) v. Secretary of<br />

State for Environment, Food<br />

and Rural Affairs (Appellant)<br />

and Others:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 20 Jan, 122; report, 21<br />

Apr, 405; appeal presented, 5 May, 410<br />

R (on the Application of<br />

Corporation of London)<br />

(Respondents) v. Secretary of<br />

State for Environment, Food<br />

and Rural Affairs (Respondent)<br />

and Others (Appellants):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 19 Jan, 118; report,<br />

21 Apr, 405; appeal presented, 4 May, 409;<br />

security for costs waived, 9 May, 411<br />

R (on the Application of DFS<br />

Furniture Company Plc)<br />

(Petitioners) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Customs and<br />

Excise (Respondents):<br />

Report, 15 Dec, 69<br />

R (on the Application of Fisher and<br />

Others) (Petitioners) v. English<br />

Nature (Respondents):<br />

Report, 16 Dec, 73<br />

R (on the Application of Gillan<br />

(FC) and Another (FC))<br />

(Appellants) v. Commissioner of<br />

Police for the Metropolis and<br />

Another (Respondents):<br />

Report, 25 Jan, 130; appeal presented, 8 Feb,<br />

169; extension of time, 23 Mar, 359; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 19 Apr, 404<br />

R (on the Application of Hammond)<br />

(FC) (Respondent) v. Secretary<br />

of State for the Home<br />

Department (Appellant)<br />

(Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1960 referred to Appeal Committee, 8 Dec,<br />

51; report, 21 Feb, 194; appeal presented, 2<br />

Mar, 237; public funding certificate, 15<br />

Mar, 320; set down for hearing and referred<br />

to Appellate Committee, 13 Apr, 401


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

461<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

R (On the Application of Jones (FC)<br />

and Others (FC)) (Respondents)<br />

v. Ceredigion County Council<br />

(Appellants) (Civil Appeal from<br />

Her Majesty’s High Court of<br />

Justice):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 6; appeal presented, 9 Dec,<br />

55; set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 16 Dec, 73; public<br />

funding certificates, 13 Jan, 104; appeal<br />

withdrawn, 2 Feb, 150<br />

R (on the Application of Kent<br />

Pharmaceuticals Limited)<br />

(Petitioners) v. Director of the<br />

Serious Fraud Office<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 14 Dec, 64; report, 8<br />

Mar, 262<br />

R (on the Application of Laporte)<br />

(FC) (Petitioner) v. Chief<br />

Constable of Gloucestershire<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

2 Feb, 149; petitions for leave to intervene<br />

referred to Appeal Committee, 10<br />

May, 412<br />

R (on the Application of Mahajan)<br />

(Applicant) v. Central London<br />

County Court (Respondents)<br />

(First Application):<br />

Report, 1 Dec, 26<br />

R (on the Application of Mahajan)<br />

(Applicant) v. Central London<br />

County Court (Respondents)<br />

(Second Application):<br />

Report, 1 Dec, 26<br />

R (on the Application of Mahajan)<br />

(Applicant) v. Central London<br />

County Court (Respondents)<br />

(Fourth Application):<br />

Report, 1 Dec, 27<br />

R (on the Application of N) (FC)<br />

(Petitioner) v. Secretary of State<br />

for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

4 Apr, 370<br />

R (on the Application of Nilsen)<br />

(FC) (Petitioner) v. Governor of<br />

HMP Full Sutton and Another<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, public funding<br />

certificate, 16 Feb, 191; report, 18 Apr, 403<br />

R (on the Application of Nunn)<br />

(Petitioner) v. First Secretary of<br />

State (Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 15 Mar, 320; report,<br />

13 Apr, 402<br />

R (on the Application of Paul<br />

Rackham Limited) (Petitioners) v.<br />

Swaffham Magistrates’ Court<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 29 Nov, 15<br />

R (on the Application of PD)<br />

(Petitioner) v. West Midlands &<br />

North West Mental Health<br />

Review Tribunal (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 25 Nov, 11;<br />

report, 25 Jan, 130<br />

R (on the Application of Mahajan)<br />

(Applicant) v. Central London<br />

County Court (Respondents)<br />

(Third Application):<br />

Report, 1 Dec, 26<br />

R (on the Application of Tromans<br />

and Another) (Respondents) v.<br />

Cannock Chase District Council<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Reports; 24 Nov, 7; 15 Dec, 69


462 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

2004–05<br />

R (on the Application of X) (FC)<br />

(Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of<br />

West Midlands Police<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee; public funding certificate,<br />

17 Jan, 111<br />

R v. Ahmed and Another<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Report, 7 Feb, 162<br />

R v. Bradley (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 31 Jan, 142;<br />

report, 7 Apr, 395<br />

R v. Coutts (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 4 Feb, 158;<br />

report, 18 Apr, 403; appeal presented, 4<br />

May, 409<br />

R v. Hasan (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (Formerly<br />

Regina v. Z (Respondent) (2003)):<br />

Judgment, 17 Mar, 334<br />

R v. Jones (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly<br />

R v. J (Appellant)):<br />

Petition that appeals be conjoined; ordered<br />

as prayed, 23 Feb, 211<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Olditch (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Jones (Appellant) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Milling (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Richards (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Appellant))<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

R v. Jones (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. J (Respondent)):<br />

Petition that appeal be consolidated, 2 Feb,<br />

149<br />

For further proceedings see next entry<br />

R v. Jones (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. J (Respondent))<br />

R v. Milling (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. M (Respondent))<br />

R v. Olditch (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. O (Respondent))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. P (Respondent))<br />

R v. Richards (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. R (Respondent))<br />

(consolidated appeals)<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 24 Feb, 216<br />

R v. Longworth (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 6 Dec, 35;<br />

report, 7 Feb, 162; appeal presented, 21<br />

Feb, 194<br />

R v. May (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 1 Mar, 232


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

463<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

R v. Milling (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. M (Appellant)):<br />

Petition that appeals be conjoined; ordered<br />

as prayed, 23 Feb, 211<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Olditch (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Jones (Appellant) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Milling (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Richards (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Appellant))<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

R v. Milling (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. M (Respondent)):<br />

Petition that appeal be consolidated, 2 Feb,<br />

149<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Jones (Respondent) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Milling (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Olditch (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Richards (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Respondent))<br />

(consolidated appeals)<br />

R v. Misra and Another<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Report, 29 Nov, 15<br />

R v. Olditch (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. O (Appellant)):<br />

Petition that appeals be conjoined; ordered<br />

as prayed, 23 Feb, 211<br />

For further proceedings see next entry<br />

R v. Olditch (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. O (Appellant))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. P (Appellant))<br />

R v. Jones (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. J (Appellant))<br />

R v. Milling (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. M (Appellant))<br />

R v. Richards (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. R (Appellant))<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to an<br />

Appellate Committee, 24 Feb, 216<br />

R v. Olditch (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. O (Respondent)):<br />

Petition that appeal be consolidated, 2 Feb,<br />

149;<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Jones (Respondent) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Milling (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Respondent))


464 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

2004–05<br />

R v. Olditch (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Richards (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Respondent))<br />

(consolidated appeals)<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. P (Appellant)):<br />

Petition that appeals be conjoined; ordered<br />

as prayed, 23 Feb, 211<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Olditch (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Jones (Appellant) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Milling (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Richards (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Appellant))<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. P (Respondent)):<br />

Petition that appeal be consolidated, 2 Feb,<br />

149;<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Jones (Respondent) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Milling (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Olditch (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Richards (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Respondent))<br />

(consolidated appeals)<br />

R v. Richards (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. R (Appellant)):<br />

Petition that appeals be conjoined; ordered<br />

as prayed, 23 Feb, 211<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Olditch (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Jones (Appellant) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Milling (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Appellant))<br />

R v. Richards (Appellant) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Appellant))<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

R v. Richards (Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 17 Mar, 335<br />

R v. Richards (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)) (formerly R<br />

v. R (Respondent)):<br />

Petition that appeal be consolidated, 2 Feb,<br />

149<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

R v. Jones (Respondent) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. J<br />

(Respondent))


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

465<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

R v. Milling (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. M<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Olditch (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. O<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Pritchard (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. P<br />

(Respondent))<br />

R v. Richards (Respondent) (on Appeal<br />

from the Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)) (formerly R v. R<br />

(Respondent))<br />

(consolidated appeals)<br />

R v. Z (Appellant) (on Appeal from<br />

the Court of Appeal Northern<br />

Ireland) (Northern Ireland):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 23 Mar, 359; report, cause<br />

part heard, 18 Apr, 404; cause fully heard<br />

and consideration adjourned sine die, 19<br />

Apr, 404<br />

Reed Executive Plc and Others<br />

(Petitioners) v. Reed Business<br />

Information Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 15 Dec, 69<br />

Rees (FC) (Respondent) v.<br />

Darlington Memorial Hospital<br />

NHS Trust (Appellants):<br />

Public funding certificate, 1 Feb, 146<br />

Regina v. Ashworth Hospital<br />

Authority (Appellants) and<br />

Another Ex Parte B (FC)<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Judgment, 17 Mar, 334<br />

Regina v. Bentham (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)):<br />

Judgment, 10 Mar, 283<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth<br />

Court (Respondents) Ex Parte D<br />

(A Minor) (by his Mother and<br />

Litigation Friend) (FC)<br />

(Appellant) (Criminal Appeal<br />

from her Majesty’s High Court<br />

of Justice):<br />

Judgment, 27 Jan, 137<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth<br />

Court (Respondents) Ex Parte<br />

Director of Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent) (AE and Another<br />

(By Her Mother and Litigation<br />

Friend) (FC) (Petitioner)<br />

(Interested Parties)):<br />

Report, 2 Mar, 238<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth<br />

Court (Respondents) Ex Parte<br />

Director of Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent) (G (By His Mother<br />

and Litigation Friend) (FC)<br />

(Appellant) (Interested Party))<br />

(Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice):<br />

Judgment, 27 Jan, 138<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth<br />

Court (Respondents) Ex Parte<br />

Director of Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent) (I (By His<br />

Litigation Friend) (FC)<br />

(Petitioner) (Interested Party)):<br />

Report, 2 Mar, 238<br />

Regina v. Camberwell Green Youth<br />

Court (Respondents) Ex Parte N<br />

(A Minor) (by his Mother and<br />

Litigation Friend) (FC)<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Report, 2 Mar, 238<br />

Regina v. Durham Constabulary<br />

and Another (Appellant) Ex<br />

Parte R (FC) (Respondent)<br />

(Criminal Appeal from Her<br />

Majesty’s High Court of Justice):<br />

Regina v. Durham Constabulary<br />

(Appellants) and Another Ex<br />

Parte R (FC) (Respondent):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Judgment, 17 Mar, 334<br />

Regina v. Hayter (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)):<br />

Judgment, 3 Feb, 153<br />

Regina v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Respondents) Ex Parte<br />

Wilkinson (FC) (Appellant):<br />

Judgment, 5 May, 411


466 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

2004–05<br />

Regina v. Immigration Officer at<br />

Prague Airport and Another<br />

(Respondents) Ex Parte<br />

European Roma Rights Centre<br />

and Another (FC) and Another<br />

and Others (FC) (Appellants):<br />

Judgment, 9 Dec, 54; costs order, 26 Jan, 134<br />

Regina v. Mercieca (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 6 Dec, 36; judgment, 16<br />

Feb, 191<br />

Regina v. Montila and Others<br />

(Appellants) (on Appeal from the<br />

Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)):<br />

Judgment, 25 Nov, 11<br />

Regina v. Parole Board<br />

(Respondents) Ex Parte Smith<br />

(FC) (Appellant):<br />

Regina v. Parole Board<br />

(Respondents) Ex Parte West<br />

(FC) (Appellant):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Judgment, 27 Jan, 137<br />

Regina v. Mushtaq (Appellant)(on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)):<br />

Judgment, 21 Apr, 406<br />

Regina v. Parole Board<br />

(Respondents) Ex Parte West<br />

(FC) (Appellant):<br />

Costs order, 21 Mar, 340<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Education and Employment and<br />

Others (Respondents) Ex Parte<br />

Williamson (Appellant) and<br />

Others:<br />

Judgment, 24 Feb, 215; costs order, 25 Apr,<br />

406<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Foreign and Commonwealth<br />

Affairs (Appellant) Ex Parte<br />

Quark Fishing Limited<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Foreign and Commonwealth<br />

Affairs (Respondent) Ex Parte<br />

Quark Fishing Limited<br />

(Appellants):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Extensions of time, 2 Dec, 31; 6 Dec, 36; 17<br />

Jan, 111; set down for hearing and referred<br />

to Appellate Committee, 7 Feb, 162<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Appellant)<br />

Ex Parte Adam (FC)<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Appellant)<br />

Ex Parte Tesema (Respondent):<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Appellant)<br />

Ex Parte Limbuela (Respondent):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Petition for leave to intervene referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 21 Mar, 340; report,<br />

13 Apr, 402; petition for leave to intervene<br />

referred to Appeal Committee, 4 May, 409;<br />

report, 10 May, 412<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Petitioner) Ex<br />

Parte TUM (FC) (Respondent)<br />

and One Other Action:<br />

Report, 2 Dec, 31<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Al-Hasan (FC)<br />

(Appellant):<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Carroll (FC)<br />

(Appellant):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Judgment, 16 Feb, 191<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Bagdanavicius (FC) and<br />

Another (Appellants):<br />

Extension of time, 24 Nov, 6; set down for<br />

hearing and referred to Appellate Committee,<br />

12 Jan, 100; cause heard in part, 20<br />

Apr, 405; cause fully heard and consideration<br />

adjourned sine die, 21 Apr, 405


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

467<br />

R see also Regina and vice versa<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for the<br />

Home Department (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Greenfield (FC)<br />

(Appellant):<br />

Judgment, 16 Feb, 191; costs order, 21 Mar,<br />

339<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Work and Pensions and Another<br />

(Appellant) Ex Parte Hooper<br />

and Others (FC) (Respondents):<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Work and Pensions (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Hooper (Appellant)<br />

and Others:<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Work and Pensions (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Hooper and Others<br />

(FC) (Appellants):<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Appeals set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 24 Nov, 6;<br />

judgment, 5 May, 410<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Work and Pensions (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Hooper and Others<br />

(FC) and Another (Appellants):<br />

Public funding certificate cancelled, 13 Jan,<br />

104<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Work and Pensions (Respondent)<br />

Ex Parte Kehoe (FC)<br />

(Appellant):<br />

Extensions of time, 6 Dec, 36; 10 Jan, 92; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 21 Feb, 194; cause heard in<br />

part, 9 May, 412; cause fully heard and<br />

consideration adjourned sine die, 10 May,<br />

412<br />

Regina v. Secretary of State for<br />

Works and Pensions<br />

(Respondent) Ex Parte Reynolds<br />

(FC) (Appellant):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 9 Dec, 55; petition for<br />

leave to intervene referred to Appeal Committee,<br />

10 Jan, 91; report, 26 Jan, 134<br />

Regina v. Smith (Appellant) (2004)<br />

(No. 2) (on Appeal from the<br />

Court of Appeal (Criminal<br />

Division)):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appeal<br />

Committee, 1 Dec, 26; judgment, 16 Feb,<br />

191; costs order, 21 Mar, 340<br />

Regina v. Special Adjudicator<br />

(Respondent) Ex Parte Hoxha<br />

(FC) (Appellant):<br />

Petition for leave to intervene referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 6 Dec, 36; report, 9<br />

Dec, 55; judgment, 10 Mar, 283<br />

Regina v. Walls (Respondent) (on<br />

Appeal from the Court of Appeal<br />

(Criminal Division)):<br />

Petition that appeal be withdrawn on the<br />

terms agreed between the parties ordered<br />

as prayed, 14 Dec, 64<br />

Regina v. Wang (Appellant) (on<br />

Appeal from thE Court of<br />

Appeal (Criminal Division)):<br />

Judgment, 10 Feb, 181<br />

Ridgeway Motors (Isleworth)<br />

Limited (Petitioners) v. Alts<br />

Limited (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 9 Mar, 278<br />

Roberts (FC) (Appellant) v. Parole<br />

Board (Respondents):<br />

Appeal presented, 29 Nov, 15; petition for<br />

leave to intervene referred to Appeal Committee,<br />

14 Dec, 64; report, 15 Dec, 69; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 10 Jan, 91; petition for leave to<br />

intervene referred to Appeal Committee, 2<br />

Mar, 237; report, 8 Mar, 262; cause heard<br />

in part, 20 Apr, 405; cause further heard,<br />

21 Apr, 405; cause fully heard and consideration<br />

adjourned sine die, 21 Apr, 406<br />

Robertson and Others (Petitioners)<br />

v. Department of Environment,<br />

Food and Rural Affairs<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 21 Mar, 340<br />

Royle (Petitioner) v. Manchester<br />

City Football Club Plc<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 5 Apr, 378


468<br />

2004–05<br />

St Leger-Davey (by Her Litigation<br />

Friend) (Petitioner) and Another<br />

v. First Secretary of State for<br />

the Environment and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 13 Jan, 104; report, 16<br />

Mar, 330<br />

Scribes West Limited (Petitioners) v.<br />

Anstalt and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 26 Jan, 134; report, 20<br />

Apr, 404<br />

Searby (Appellant) v. Yorkshire<br />

Traction Company Limited<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Set down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 10 Jan, 91<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent) v.<br />

Hindawi and Another<br />

(Petitioner) (FC):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee; public funding certificate,<br />

6 Dec, 35<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent) v.<br />

Hindawi (FC) (Petitioner) and<br />

Another:<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee; public funding certificate,<br />

10 Mar, 283<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent) v. K<br />

(Petitioner):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 17 Jan, 111; report, 4<br />

May, 410<br />

Secretary of State for Trade and<br />

Industry (Respondent) v.<br />

Rutherford and Another (FC)<br />

(Appellants) and Others:<br />

Report, 10 Feb, 181; appeal presented, 24<br />

Feb, 215; security for costs waived, 2 Mar,<br />

238; set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Secretary of State for Work and<br />

Pensions (Appellant) v. M<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 10 Jan, 91;<br />

report, 21 Feb, 194; appeal presented, 3<br />

Mar, 251; extension of time, 13 Apr, 402<br />

Serco Limited (Respondents) v.<br />

Lawson (Appellant):<br />

Petition for leave to intervene referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 29 Nov, 15; report, 1<br />

Dec, 26; set down for hearing and referred<br />

to Appellate Committee, 6 Dec, 36<br />

Sherrington and Others<br />

(Petitioners) v. Sherrington<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 20 Apr, 404<br />

Sirius International Insurance<br />

Company (PUBL) (Appellants) v.<br />

FAI General Insurance Limited<br />

and Others (Respondents):<br />

Judgment, 2 Dec, 31; costs order, 12 Jan, 100<br />

Smith (FC) (Appellant) v. Secretary<br />

of State for Work and Pensions<br />

and Another (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 24 Nov, 6; report, 26<br />

Jan, 134; appeal presented, public funding<br />

certificate, 4 Apr, 370<br />

South Bucks District Council<br />

(Respondents) v. Coates and<br />

Others (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 12 Jan, 100;<br />

report, 16 Mar, 330<br />

Speed Investments Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Formula<br />

One Holdings Limited and<br />

Others (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 15 Dec, 69; report, 24<br />

Feb, 217<br />

Standard Commercial Property<br />

Securities Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council (Appellants) and<br />

Others (Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, 28 Feb, 223; petition that<br />

appeals be conjoined; ordered as prayed, 4<br />

Apr, 371<br />

For further proceedings see next entry


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

469<br />

Standard Commercial Property<br />

Securities Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council (Appellants) and<br />

Others (Scotland)<br />

Standard Commercial Property<br />

Securities Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council and Others<br />

(Appellants) (Scotland)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Extension of time, 13 Apr, 402<br />

Standard Commercial Property<br />

Securities Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council and Others<br />

(Appellants) (Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, 2 Mar, 237; petition that<br />

appeals be conjoined; ordered as prayed, 4<br />

Apr, 371<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Standard Commercial Property<br />

Securities Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council (Appellants) and Others<br />

(Scotland)<br />

Standard Commercial Property<br />

Securities Limited and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Glasgow City<br />

Council and Others (Appellants)<br />

(Scotland)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Sutradhar (Appellant) v. Natural<br />

Environment Research Council<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Reports, 13 Dec, 60; 25 Jan, 130; appeal presented,<br />

7 Feb, 161; public funding certificate,<br />

16 Feb, 192; set down for hearing and<br />

referred to Appellate Committee, 21 Mar,<br />

340<br />

Swain (Petitioner) v. Director of<br />

Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 5 May, 410<br />

Szoma (FC) (Appellant) v.<br />

Secretary of State for the<br />

Department of Work and<br />

Pensions (Respondent):<br />

Extensions of time, 24 Nov, 6; 10 Jan, 92; set<br />

down for hearing and referred to Appellate<br />

Committee, 23 Feb, 211<br />

Szuluk (FC) (Petitioner) v.<br />

Governor of HMP Full Sutton<br />

and Another (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, public funding certificate,<br />

16 Feb, 191; report, 18 Apr, 403<br />

Tehrani (AP) (Appellant) v.<br />

Secretary of State for the Home<br />

Department (Respondent)<br />

(Scotland):<br />

Appeal presented, legal aid certificate, 17<br />

Mar, 335; extension of time, 28 Apr, 408<br />

Teleos Plc (Petitioners) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Telewest Communications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Customs and Excise (Petitioners):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 9 Mar, 278; report, 10<br />

May, 412<br />

The Future Network Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her<br />

Majesty’s Commissioners of<br />

Inland Revenue (Appellants):<br />

Extensions of time, 1 Dec, 26; 12 Jan, 100;<br />

petition that appeal be conjoined, ordered<br />

as prayed, 10 Feb, 181<br />

For further proceedings see<br />

Autologic Holdings Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

BNP Paribas UK Holdings Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

The Future Network Plc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

Perkins Engines Company Limited and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)


470 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

2004–05<br />

HJ Heinz Company Inc and Others<br />

(Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

British Telecommunications Plc and<br />

Others (Respondents) v. Her Majesty’s<br />

Commissioners of Inland Revenue<br />

(Appellants)<br />

(conjoined appeals)<br />

Thornhill (Trustee of Clive W<br />

Atherton) (Respondent) v.<br />

Atherton (Petitioner) and<br />

Others (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 13 Apr, 401<br />

Three Rivers District Council and<br />

Others (Respondents) v.<br />

Governor and Company of the<br />

Bank of England (Appellants):<br />

Costs order, 14 Jan, 108<br />

Topplan Estates Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Townley<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 15 Dec, 69; report, 16<br />

Mar, 330<br />

Trennery (Respondent) v. West (Her<br />

Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes)<br />

(Appellant) and Four Other<br />

Actions:<br />

Judgment, 27 Jan, 138<br />

Trustees of the Robin Settlement<br />

(Petitioners) v. Trippier (Her<br />

Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes)<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Report, 8 Dec, 51<br />

Unilin Beheer BV (Respondents) v.<br />

Berry Floor NV and Others<br />

(Petitioners):<br />

Report, 10 Feb, 181<br />

Unipart Group Limited (Petitioners)<br />

v. 02 (UK) Limited (formerly BT<br />

Cellnet Limited) and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 7<br />

Walsh (AP) (Petitioner) v. Director<br />

of Assets Recovery Agency<br />

(Respondent) (Northern<br />

Ireland):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, legal aid certificate,<br />

5 Apr, 378<br />

Ward (Respondent) v. Commissioner<br />

of Police for the Metropolis and<br />

Others (Appellants):<br />

Judgment, 5 May, 411<br />

Warmisham (Petitioner) v. Kenneth<br />

Beavis & Co (A Firm)<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal out of time referred<br />

to Appeal Committee, 7 Apr, 394<br />

Watkins (Respondent) v. Home<br />

Office (Appellants) and Others:<br />

Extensions of time, 10 Jan, 92; 21 Feb, 194<br />

West Bromwich Building Society<br />

(Appellants) v. Wilkinson and<br />

Another (Respondents):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 7; appeal presented, 8 Dec,<br />

51; set down for hearing and referred to<br />

Appellate Committee, 19 Jan, 118<br />

Will Gannon & Smith Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. Abbott and<br />

Another (Respondents):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal referred to<br />

Appeal Committee, 4 Apr, 370<br />

Wise (Underwriting Agency)<br />

Limited (Petitioners) and Others<br />

v. Grupo Nacional Provincial<br />

SA (Respondents):<br />

Report, 24 Nov, 7<br />

Vakante (Petitioner) v. Addey and<br />

Stanhope School and Others<br />

(Respondents):<br />

Report, 26 Jan, 134<br />

X (FC) and Another (FC)<br />

(Appellants) v. Secretary of<br />

State for the Home Department<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Judgment, 16 Dec, 73


2004–05 JUDICIAL INDEX<br />

471<br />

Younger Homes (Northern) Limited<br />

(Petitioners) v. First Secretary<br />

of State and Others<br />

(Respondents) and Others:<br />

Report, 13 Jan, 105<br />

Zafar (Petitioner) v. Director of<br />

Public Prosecutions<br />

(Respondent):<br />

Petition for leave to appeal in accordance<br />

with the Administration of Justice Act<br />

1960 referred to Appeal Committee, 2 Dec,<br />

31; report, 16 Feb, 192


2004–05 473<br />

MEMBERSHIP <strong>OF</strong> THE <strong>HOUSE</strong><br />

Notification of death<br />

Date shown is date of notification.<br />

Date of death is in Journal<br />

entry. Deaths of former<br />

members of the House, and of<br />

persons on the Register of<br />

Hereditary Peers, are not<br />

noted in the Journal. Neither<br />

is the retirement of a Lord<br />

Spiritual<br />

Aberdare L., 26 Jan, 133<br />

Burnham L., 10 Jan, 90<br />

Callaghan of CardiV L., 4<br />

Apr, 370<br />

Roll of Ipsden L., 4 Apr, 370<br />

Scarman L., 13 Dec, 59<br />

Sheppard of Liverpool L., 7<br />

Mar, 254<br />

Strange B., 15 Mar, 320<br />

Leave of Absence<br />

Granted<br />

Lord Chancellor, 15 Dec, 69; 1<br />

Feb, 145; 9 Feb, 176; 28<br />

Feb, 223<br />

Jeger B., 7 Mar, 254<br />

Terminated<br />

None<br />

Polwarth L., petition 5 Apr,<br />

378<br />

Vivian L., petition 11 Jan, 96;<br />

registered 9 Feb, 176<br />

By-elections<br />

Glasgow E., elected in place of<br />

Russell E. 13 Jan, 104; oath<br />

25 Jan, 129<br />

De Mauley L., elected in place<br />

of Burnham L. 14 Mar, 315;<br />

oath 15 Mar, 320<br />

Eccles V., elected in place of<br />

Aberdare L. 23 Mar, 358;<br />

oath 4 Apr, 370<br />

Introductions<br />

Under Life Peerages Act 1958,<br />

except Bishops, and Lords of<br />

Appeal in Ordinary, who are<br />

marked *<br />

Kinnock L., 31 Jan, 141<br />

Patten of Barnes L., 19 Jan, 118<br />

Oath or aYrmation (other than<br />

following By-election or on<br />

Introduction)<br />

None<br />

Notification of bankruptcy or<br />

custody<br />

None<br />

Determination of Abeyance<br />

None<br />

Register of hereditary peers<br />

Registration of persons who<br />

were members of the House<br />

until 1999 is not noted in the<br />

Journal. Neither is deregistration<br />

Abinger L., petition 1 Dec, 26;<br />

registered 12 Jan, 100<br />

Aberdare L., petition 5 Apr,<br />

378<br />

Boyle L., petition 5 Apr, 378<br />

Burnham L., petition 2 Mar,<br />

237; registered 16 Mar, 330<br />

Iddesleigh E., registered 2 Dec,<br />

31<br />

Mountgarret L., petition 5<br />

Apr, 378<br />

Oxfuird V., registered 1 Dec, 26

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