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Rare Dwarf Syagrus


Gileno Machado

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Three weeks ago I visited the beautiful Palm collection of Dr. Harri Lorenzi in São Paulo State (near Campinas). He is a famous researcher and the writer of "Palmeiras Brasileiras e exóticas cultivadas", the best Encyclopedia of our native palms, among several other plant related books.

Here are the pictures of some of the amazing rare small Syagrus he has been collecting from all over the Country, many of them listed among the threatned species:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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The beautiful bluish Syagrus graminifolia

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Another view of S. graminifolia

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Once thought to be extinct, recently rediscovered in habitat: Syagrus lilliputiana

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Yes, this is an adult palm, fruiting in cultivation...less than 40 cm tall.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Ultra rare species, Syagrus pleioclada, from Minas Gerais State. This small palm grows to a max of 1 meter tall in habitat, rocky hilly and dry environment.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Beautiful examples!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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another blue chip: Syagrus microphylla, from Bahia State. This specimen is already fruiting.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Not even Dr. Larry Noblick, from Montgomery Botanical gardens, could resist a closer look at this one:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Syagrus glaucescens, from Minas Gerais, endemic to the Cadeia do Espinhaço mountains:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Hi Gileno,

Thanks for sharing the photos, is amazing to see how small can some palms be!

BTW - I found in Kew's monocot checklist that S. lilliputiana is listed as a synonym of S. graminifolia, however in the photos they look very different to be synonyms.

Luis Diego G.

Alajuela, Costa Rica.

My website: SeresVerdes.com

Plants and seeds I have for trade

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Not a rare species, but what a nice grown up clump of adult Syagrus vagans, from the central Bahia State, called Ariri as a common local name:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Hi Gileno,

Thanks for sharing the photos, is amazing to see how small can some palms be!

BTW - I found in Kew's monocot checklist that S. lilliputiana is listed as a synonym of S. graminifolia, however in the photos they look very different to be synonyms.

Hi Luis Diego,

According to my Brazilian books, S. graminifolia is quite another species, native to Cerrado habitat, above 500 m altitude in central Brazil while S. lilliputiana was found in the extreme west region of Central-West, in Mato Grosso do Sul State, near the border with Paraguay, in sandy lowland habitat.

Another small species, recently described: Syagrus evansiana:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Syagrus petraea, native from rocky habitat:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Another Syagrus petraea, sorry for the bad picture:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Now this is a new species, not described yet, called coco-de-quarta anão, recently found in a remote habitat in Espírito Santo State:

Syagrus sp nov 2:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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I was also lucky to obtain seedlings from this new species when the first seeds came from habitat sometime ago. Mine are a little bigger than Lorenzi`s but still in the strap leaf stage.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Pause to admire the gorgeous Attalea funifera, from Ilheus, BA.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Great photos Gileno, some of my favorite palms!--

Brasil is a great country to grow palms in so many native species !

Best wishes,

Ed Brown

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The rare small Syagrus harleyi, recently transplanted, from Chapada Diamantina, Bahia State:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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...I`ll have to start another thread for the other palm species...the gardens cover a wide area of ground:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Syagrus cocoides juvenile specimen. This is a common species from central Brazil, native to pre-amazonic States:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Now, how about a private tour among the secrets of Lorenzi`s shadehouse, with Larry Noblick and other local palm friends...

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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This is one of the newly found species in habitat, from South Bahia:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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...It seems that a new palm species is born...

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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a bunch of other newbies, arrived from habitat:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Pay attention to this Lytocaryum here too...This is probably the first picture of this new species ever shown. I`ve heard from my friend Alex from South Bahia (who first collected this palm) that Noblick and Lorenzi have seen it again in habitat last week and that they`ve realized that this species from Atlantic forest habitat is actually something new, so a third Lytocaryum species will soon be described and published:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Now this is the Brazilian variety of Syagrus comosa, from extreme western Acre State, in Amazonia:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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a splendid cultivated Polyandrococos caudescens:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Syagrus schizoplylla in full sun:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Sorry I can`t remember this species (or read the tag), fruiting and less than 30 cm tall:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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...

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Last one for tonight:

Thanks Dr. Noblick, Dr. Harri Lorenzi and Liana.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Fantastic tour, Gileno. It's such a delight to have photos such as yours for all to see, and seeing a new species so unexpectedly, makes me glad I joined the IPS.

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thanks,gileno,for a wonderful look at some amazing syagrus species(& more!).

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Thanks Gileno,

I love the Syagrus, it's my favorite genus! Thanks for the pic of the S.Glauscence (sorry for the spelling)! I have about 10 of them and they're 3-5gallon size. I now know what they'll look like in a few years! I also loved the Syagrus Comosa pic. I have bought hundreds of Comosa seeds from RPS and i had zero germination!! :rage: I sure would like to get my hands on viable Syagrus Comosa seeds!!

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

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Hi Gileno,

Thanks for showing us those beautiful

photo's, love them.

Regards Mikey :)

M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

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Obridado Gileno!!!

I also want to see Lorenzi´s collection someday. He has so many interesting plants!!!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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bravo Gileno bravo. What a wonderful pilgrimage thru the genus, many of which I have never seen growing here. In cen. Fl. most of the subterranean Syagrus do not hold well to our cold freezes/frosts. I have a small vagans and an even smaller glausescens that have managed to hang in there for a few yrs.

The pic of comosa is an eye opener, this is a palm that was often "sold" in the past in Fl. but rarely ever has the true comosa been available from anyone. Most of these turned out to be hybrids w/ coronata, others. The true comosa is (with few exceptions) a small palm, and is extremely rare outside of habitat.

Lastly have a few requests: do you have any good pictures (habitat or otherwise) of smithii (very large & tasty fruits)? Or ruschiana (not a dwarf), but a clumping sp. that often fools the eye into seeing something else? Would be much obliged, and thanks again for the fantastic photos.

- dave

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